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Maduro is getting all of the help that he needs,
and that's good to see.
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I hope Maduro has a lot of USDs instead of suitcases full of yuans.
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
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Maduro not muerto yet?

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I think that we can now say that the coup has failed.
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
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If war starts the blood would be on hands of Guaido since he is the one agitating the environment in the country.
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
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If war starts the blood would be on hands of Guaido since he is the one agitating the environment in the country.
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...like yesterday, I don't see any report of deaths but I'm sure they happened. That's on Guaido to think about before his bed time.
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Maduro learned a lot during his tenure as a bus driver.
and he's not going to show his Power until he's ready to Strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Maduro hasn't learned how to take his name out of US national security list. His driver license will be revoked and God know what happens to him.

His power is in foreigners' hands right now after his military and secret police units said Goodbye to him.

Guaido and million of angry Venezuelans are going to meet him in the Presidential palace. Maduro will welcome them in his palace with 20.000 Cuban soldiers and Russian advisers.
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hesright
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
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Tired of losing yet?
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
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Cubans send 20k of their troops cause the alliance is strong and based on respect.

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It has nothing to do with happy communist alliance horse shits.

Cubans help Maduro because of freee 80% Venezuela oils. Without these oils, Cuba's economy collapses because Cubans don't have money to buy 80% oils from other countries. Russians or Chinese won't offer free oil to Cuba.

Chinese and Russians have wasted billion after billions dollars for Maduro's oil company because they want to build military bases in Venezuela because Cubans won't let them do so. They want to use these bases to negotiate with US later on.

Cubans, Chinese, Russians, and Irans don't help Maduro because he is a good communist or any shit you want to prefer. They help Maduro in order to save themselves from US.

What Maduro gets in return? money, 'artificial supports', and 5-minutes hall of fame on media.

Maduro should have sticked with his bus driving business or being a good happy communist like his previous boss instead of putting his name on US national security list.

Maduro is dumb enough to be used by these countries. He is paying for it with his presidency and his life. Free billion dollars years after years? Time to pay the debt is up, Maduro.
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Cuba, China and Russia do NOT want to have the blood of 1,000s of Venezuelans on their hands. Absolute worst case scenario for them.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
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forget wikileaks photo uf us soldier torture iraq civilian and killed journalist from a chopter no drone..
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so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
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so, yer saying that Cuba, China and Russia have already
surrendered to the U.S. and are gonna let them have
their way with the Venezuelan People.

wow.

that sure was a short war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo





us call incident...
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Ron Paul Warns: "Hapless" Guaido Now "Worth More Dead Than Alive" To Washington's Venezuelan Coup-Creators

popcorn one of few bright men in the U.S.
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mistake...
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well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Exactly. That's my point. I'm not trying to make a case that the US or other governments aren't doing bad shit. But you see planned discretion in the manner in which power is deployed.

And unloading on a mass of unarmed mostly civilian protesters is not a good look...
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Air strikes next
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well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Exactly. That's my point. I'm not trying to make a case that the US or other governments aren't doing bad shit. But you see planned discretion in the manner in which power is deployed.

And unloading on a mass of unarmed mostly civilian protesters is not a good look...
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


in WWII

.....

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well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Exactly. That's my point. I'm not trying to make a case that the US or other governments aren't doing bad shit. But you see planned discretion in the manner in which power is deployed.

And unloading on a mass of unarmed mostly civilian protesters is not a good look...
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


in WWII

.....


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the Fire Bombing of German and Japanese Cities.
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No, but in the World of Public Opinion and instant live coverage of international events, the sight of Russian/Chinese/Cuban soldiers firing on unarmed civilians will cost those countries more than the loss of Venezuela's business and ports.


Yes, the US intervenes in other country's business all the time and have read much about drones killing civilians, but don't remember seeing US servicemen openly fire upon a mass of unarmed civilians.

The picture of one Chinese student standing in front of a line of tanks is still vivid. The sight of hundreds getting gunned down would be devastating in the World of public opinion and potential boycotts.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo





us call incident...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77571934


I think he means a group of US troops on orders firing on a crowd of civilians, this soldier had popped his noodle.

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well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Exactly. That's my point. I'm not trying to make a case that the US or other governments aren't doing bad shit. But you see planned discretion in the manner in which power is deployed.

And unloading on a mass of unarmed mostly civilian protesters is not a good look...
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


in WWII

.....


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77571934


the Fire Bombing of German and Japanese Cities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


That was all out war, not to mention the Germans were the first to use strategic bombing in Poland and the Japanese were hardly ethical to say the least.
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Air strikes next
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Could be. The fear would be Russia using the S300. However, Russia has never used the S300 on the khazars. Russia would probably not fire.
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well, the U.S. and their buddies shoot people all over
the World and nobody cares about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo





us call incident...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77571934


I think he means a group of US troops on orders firing on a crowd of civilians, this soldier had popped his noodle.
 Quoting: Stand Sure



77/5000
there is always a justification for the crimes committed by US soldiers
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Air strikes next
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Did not work in Syria, wont work in Venezuela. They have Russian upgraded Soviet air defense.
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well, everybody has different methods of doing things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


Exactly. That's my point. I'm not trying to make a case that the US or other governments aren't doing bad shit. But you see planned discretion in the manner in which power is deployed.

And unloading on a mass of unarmed mostly civilian protesters is not a good look...
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


Exactly, as I keep saying whatever way anyone looks at it, Chavez and now Maduro hardly helped the situation, the only reason why there hasn't been a mass shooting of the crowd is because the Russians are pulling the strings doing everything they can to prevent cause for intervention.
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Show me where US soldiers have unloaded on a mass of unarmed protesters in the internet age. Visual perception.
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us call incident...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77571934


I think he means a group of US troops on orders firing on a crowd of civilians, this soldier had popped his noodle.
 Quoting: Stand Sure



77/5000
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Not saying it was just, but I am saying theres a difference in the psychology and execution behind it.
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