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Where in the fuck are Slovenia and Slovakia anyway? And why does the one troll poster's IP bounce back and forth between the two countries?


I would assume the most important actions regarding Venezuela are the ongoing communications between the US, Brazilian, Columbian, Chilean, etc. militaries and their Venezuelan military counterparts. Quiet discussions between officers who have trained and or worked together in the past.

To end this without major bloodshed, they need to turn the military against Maduro or, at minimum, talk them into standing down with a no-vote for Maduro.

There are good reasons why militaries spend so much time training together--the relationships built can be invaluable in situations like this.
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They were formed after the break-up of Yugoslavia.
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LOL still wrong, keep trying ...
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rofl My bad. Czechoslovakia
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Where in the fuck are Slovenia and Slovakia anyway? And why does the one troll poster's IP bounce back and forth between the two countries?


I would assume the most important actions regarding Venezuela are the ongoing communications between the US, Brazilian, Columbian, Chilean, etc. militaries and their Venezuelan military counterparts. Quiet discussions between officers who have trained and or worked together in the past.

To end this without major bloodshed, they need to turn the military against Maduro or, at minimum, talk them into standing down with a no-vote for Maduro.

There are good reasons why militaries spend so much time training together--the relationships built can be invaluable in situations like this.
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They were formed after the break-up of Yugoslavia.
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LOL still wrong, keep trying ...
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rofl My bad. Czechoslovakia
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Now way is this correct.

Slovakia came from the break up of Czechoslovakia. Slovenia was a part of former Yugoslavia.

Where is Slovenia? In between Italy, Austria, Hungary and Croatia. Two hours drive away from Venice. You have hear of Venice? Three hours drive away from Vienna. Ever heard of Vienna?

I don't know about trolling and IPs. I have been posting on this forum for almost three years now. And I am no troll.

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Isn't it interesting how the US and European corporate media keep conveniently forgetting to show these absolutely GIGANTIC pro-government Chavista marches in Venezuela? I'm sure it's only a coincidence. Just ignore the long, long pattern of dishonesty.

Video of May 1, pro Maduro march . .

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica


..THOUSANDS?...A FEW ..THOUSAND...PERHAPS SEVERAL..5 TO 'SEVERAL THOUSANDS'...HOW MANY WERE PAID OR GOV. EMPLOYEES IN 'COSTUMES' AS SUPPORTERS...?...
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It's still far more than mainstream media ever reports. They never show any marches in support of Maduro. They should, but of course no surprise that they don't.
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Pro-government marches aren't news because they are usually required. That's why we don't go all gaga over North Korea's demonstrations of support for Kim, ya know. That's the communist way. The news and shock is when people put their lives and livelihood on the line and try to change this. They have non safety net.
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Of course such marches are news. The news should give at least give some balance of what's happening there (yeah, I know the idea of msm giving balanced coverage is a joke). But the reporting is slanted towards making it seem like Maduro is on the brink of running away, but that's not the impression I get from looking at news outside what the msm say. Read this for instance:

Venezuelan Military Putsch Defeated as Leopoldo Lopez Takes Refuge in Spanish Embassy

[link to venezuelanalysis.com (secure)]

But the msm (repeating what was tweeted out by Pomep, Rubio, Abrams, etc) are quick say things like Maduro set fire to the US AID trucks at the border back in Feb 23 - an incident which was cited by Pompeo to justify further US sanctions - then it turned out that the fires were not started by Maduro forces, but by molotov cocktails thrown by opposition protestors!

NYT’s Exposé on the Lies About Burning Aid Trucks in Venezuela Shows How U.S. Government and Media Spread Pro-War Propaganda

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You cant seriously compare what happens in North Korea with Venezuela. For a start, if there was a North Korean equivalent of Juan Guido trying to overthrow Kim Jong UN, and marching on the streets to do it (which he'd obviously never be able to do in NK) do you think he'd be allowed to continue doing that for as long as Guaido has? Or in Saudi Arabia? yet Maduro is always getting called a "Brutal Dictator" on msm news.

Of course, Trump doesn't say much against Mohamed "bone saw" Bin Salman, and he "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un. But Maduro is such a tyrant, and because of this, for "humanitarian purposes" he's got to go!



^^^^^^

The Grayzone's Anya Parampil joined Tucker Carlson on Fox News to discuss the corporate media's abysmal coverage of the US-led coup attempt against Venezuela's democratically elected government.

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Isn't it interesting how the US and European corporate media keep conveniently forgetting to show these absolutely GIGANTIC pro-government Chavista marches in Venezuela? I'm sure it's only a coincidence. Just ignore the long, long pattern of dishonesty.

Video of May 1, pro Maduro march . .

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica


..THOUSANDS?...A FEW ..THOUSAND...PERHAPS SEVERAL..5 TO 'SEVERAL THOUSANDS'...HOW MANY WERE PAID OR GOV. EMPLOYEES IN 'COSTUMES' AS SUPPORTERS...?...
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It's still far more than mainstream media ever reports. They never show any marches in support of Maduro. They should, but of course no surprise that they don't.
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MAIN STREAM MEDIA ARE 'INTEL. AGENCIES'!

THAT'S ALL THEY ARE NOW....THAT CROWD 'COULD' HAVE BEEN 10,000...IT'S NOT MUCH IS WHAT IM REALLY SAYING.
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...IT WONT B LONG NOW..
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BREAKING: NOW UP TO 340 PAGES AND STILL NOTHING HAS HAPPENED
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Do you all hear that that fapping sound? That's Lindsey Graham, John Bolton, and the other deep state assholes fapping in unison over another possible invasion and war with Russia.
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Hahahahahahaha. Thank you.
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But for years, Tareck El Aissami, one of Mr. Maduro’s closest confidants and his family have helped sneak Hezbollah militants into the country, gone into business with a drug lord and shielded 140 tons of chemicals believed to be used for cocaine production. Mr. El Aissami’s father was involved in a plan to train Hezbollah members in Venezuela.

Mr. El Aissami acted as a facilitator to the underworld in other ways as well. The documents say that his brother, Feraz, went into business with Venezuela’s most notorious drug lord, Walid Makled.

And in 2017, two nephews of Mr. Maduro’s wife, Cilia Flores, were sentenced to 18 years in an American prison after trying to traffic 800 kilograms of cocaine.


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THIS is what is about NOT oil.

If Venezuela weren't doing this, there wouldn't be a problem.

So it's about terrorism and not the false flag kind.
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Monroe Doctrine.


So now we trust the NY Times.
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BREAKING: NOW UP TO 340 PAGES AND STILL NOTHING HAS HAPPENED
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hesright
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putin leads the army of god

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US arming prisoners to fight people. Disgusting.
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Venezuelan army BTRs (tanks) on the move in Venezuela. Venezuelan Army BTRs spotted moving south from Guayana city

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CIA springs Leopoldo Lopez

guaido should be getting nervous ... rebels can only have one supreme leader

its obvious they're setting him up to become a martyr

if he's smart he'll flee to Cuba and denounce the merkan imperialist dogs, switch sides to save his life
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CIA springs Leopoldo Lopez

guaido should be getting nervous ... rebels can only have one supreme leader

its obvious they're setting him up to become a martyr

if he's smart he'll flee to Cuba and denounce the merkan imperialist dogs, switch sides to save his life
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I mean ffs .. his 'allies' spring another supreme rebel leader while he's trying to get the revolution going ?

he better get the fuck out of dodge ASAP
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CIA springs Leopoldo Lopez

guaido should be getting nervous ... rebels can only have one supreme leader

its obvious they're setting him up to become a martyr

if he's smart he'll flee to Cuba and denounce the merkan imperialist dogs, switch sides to save his life
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"Its obvious they're setting him up to become a martyr"

Sure is starting to look that way.
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will putin use his kung fu?
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Russian and US Positions on Venezuelan Crisis are Incompatible - Lavrov

On Wednesday, the Russian foreign minister spoke to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, telling the top US diplomat that Washington's interference in Venezuela's affairs was a destructive approach fraught with "the most serious consequences."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov urged the United States to refrain from returning to the imperious 'Monroe Doctrine' in its relations with Venezuela, and indicated that while the Russian and US positions on the crisis in the Latin American country remain incompatible, dialogue must continue.


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BREAKING: Two more protesters die following Venezuela clashes, reports opposition - @AFP
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2 protestors? We have black lives matter, la raza, ms13, moslums and antifa? We have that weekly it just doesn't get press.
It is not a conflict war at this point because just protestors (with rocks) and now, nothing will happen until after this meeting. Just who is a fkr and who is a mason and hoos! and oil, terrorism, mass migration - AFTER all this week of ^^^^that, tag this one "prequel" and start a whole new thread if anything actually goes. Because by that meeting, this will be 685 pages of "who's a mi gg er! Is not is not! and your better action content started baggage free
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Rooters - Venezuela's court issues arrest warrant for opposition politician Leopoldo Lopez, who is currently sheltering in the Spanish Embassy

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Anya Parampil on What's Really Going On in Venezuela


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That's eye-opening, and Tucker didn't try to skewer, debunk or go after her. Not what I expected.

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..THOUSANDS?...A FEW ..THOUSAND...PERHAPS SEVERAL..5 TO 'SEVERAL THOUSANDS'...HOW MANY WERE PAID OR GOV. EMPLOYEES IN 'COSTUMES' AS SUPPORTERS...?...
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It's still far more than mainstream media ever reports. They never show any marches in support of Maduro. They should, but of course no surprise that they don't.
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MAIN STREAM MEDIA ARE 'INTEL. AGENCIES'!

THAT'S ALL THEY ARE NOW....THAT CROWD 'COULD' HAVE BEEN 10,000...IT'S NOT MUCH IS WHAT IM REALLY SAYING.
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...IT WONT B LONG NOW..
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THE POST ABOVE THIS ONE...THEY R GONNA SPIN ON THE 'FISA' GATE STUFF...SO, THEY REALLY WANT VEN. TO GO OUT OF CONTROL...AND WILL NOW PUSH FOR AND COVER THAT END AS A DISTRACTION-SPIN NOW!...
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Venezuela Court Issues Arrest Warrant for Opposition Politician Leopoldo Lopez

Earlier, Spanish Foreign Minister Josep Borrell said that Venezuelan opposition politician Leopoldo Lopez had not applied for asylum. Lopez took refuge in the Spanish embassy in Caracas after fleeing house arrest.

The Supreme Court of Venezuela has issued an arrest warrant for opposition politician Leopoldo Lopez, a statement released on the court's website says.

In 2015, Lopez was sentenced to 14 years in prison for having a role in the 2014 violent protests, which claimed the lives of over 40 people. Since summer 2017, he was held under house arrest.

On Tuesday, Lopez escaped house arrest with the help of another Venezuelan opposition politician Juan Guaido . . .

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JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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Link?
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JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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Link??
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JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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Link??
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source is roooooooooters
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JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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hmmm russia seems unwilling to act but that could be because in these many situations

in syria especially ... they negotiated behind the scenes, set limits

IF Russian missiles work as claim they should be able to fairly easily sink every boat in any American carrier group ... surface ships are only useful against inferior adversaries, against russia , IF their missiles work, they're utterly useless ... they can just sink the entire carrier group

I hope if it comes to military conflict in VZ we leave in VZ whether America wins or loses and keep it conventional

if America loses to russia in VZ and retaliates elsewhere that can escalate without end
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Russia won't go to war over Venezuela. Not worth it. And the US probably wouldn't either.


Its a shithole country and oil can be found just about anywhere these days---not as important as it was 20 years ago and is becoming less important as electric cars become more accessible.


THE BLUEBERRIES ARE SAFE!!!!!!!!!

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PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

PUTIN - RUSSIA IS STILL OPEN FOR DIPLOMACY W/ THE UNITED STATES EVEN DURING TIMES OF CONFLICT.

siren2 siren2 siren2 siren2

time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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You have a source for this? Not saying it's not true, but just searched twitter, and cant find anything about it. Something like this would be all over Twitter. I'll go look again . . .
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Re: VENEZUELA:Outages 7/BOMBSHELL:P261/AMBUSH:6+GENERAL ZAPATA KILLED/BOMBSHELL P351/8 ARRESTS P352-53/ FLIGHTS BAN P355
JUST IN

PUTIN - I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED WITH THE EVENTS UNFOLDING IN VENEZUELA ALONG WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW CRITICAL THE SITUATION IS.

PUTIN - IF IT COMES DOWN TO A MILITARY CONFRONTATION BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THEN SO BE IT.

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time to head to the bunkers folks.. damned
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