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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
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I've heard that Venezeulan prisons can be pretty bad, I doubt that anybody would see through a twenty-year sentence. But I don't really know...
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Yeah, for sure. But my question was for Spanish Guy (who you were replying to) because he said that Maduro was saying that he wanted 20 year prison sentence just for acts of vandalism (burnin tires, etc) . .but at the link I gave, to the video of Maduro speaking, the English translator doesn't say that.
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Ah okay, I didn't watch the video. The internet here is quite lousy at the moment, and we consider ourselves to be a first-world country! chuckle
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Yes, I can translate.... he said that anyone protesting and causing "vandalism" (like setting tires on fire) will get a 20 years jail time
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
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So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
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Well, I can write you exactly what he is saying in Spanish and then you can look for the exact translation.

"Y le he pedido al fiscal general que sea celoso en la aplicación de la máxima pena de 20 años de cárcel a todo el que se capture en la calle quemando, asaltando, y haciendo actos de vandalismo que son pagados con dólares..."

So the translator is not translating correctly, you can listen to what Maduro is saying and then translate it in a Translator.

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Venezuela braces for tomorrow where thousands of anti maduro protesters will hit the streets... but the army behind Maduro...
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Yes, I can translate.... he said that anyone protesting and causing "vandalism" (like setting tires on fire) will get a 20 years jail time
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
 Quoting: Pacifica


Spanish_guy isn't helping much to dispel Maduro's claim that the Spanish govt. are going against the Maduro govt.. chuckle
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The Spanish government is against Maduro BUT (and this is a big BUT), its main parliamentary support is Pro-Maduro Party called Podemos (their leaders worked alongside Maduro and Chavez and have always supported the revolution)... so the Spanish government is being very cautious right now.
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Yes, I can translate.... he said that anyone protesting and causing "vandalism" (like setting tires on fire) will get a 20 years jail time
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
 Quoting: Pacifica


Spanish_guy isn't helping much to dispel Maduro's claim that the Spanish govt. are going against the Maduro govt.. chuckle
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Language is an important factor. For instance, the Five Eyes are all English-speaking nations (however Canada also have many French-speakers). All the rest of the Americas (excluding Brazil) use Spanish or native languages.
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
 Quoting: Pacifica


Spanish_guy isn't helping much to dispel Maduro's claim that the Spanish govt. are going against the Maduro govt.. chuckle
 Quoting: NewGeneration2019


The Spanish government is against Maduro BUT (and this is a big BUT), its main parliamentary support is Pro-Maduro Party called Podemos (their leaders worked alongside Maduro and Chavez and have always supported the revolution)... so the Spanish government is being very cautious right now.
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Interesting. scratching
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Pompeo wants to pay 20 million dollars for human aide...lol >> AFTER THEIR OWN SANCTIONS

Ah , only now...and why not before when needed ??? hyprocrite fat bastard.... only when the oilfield is in reach ?

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hear how he puts it...

POMPEO SAYS TIME FOR DEBATE ON VENEZUELA IS DONE, MADURO GOVERNMENT IS ILLEGITIMATE, 'MORALLY BANKRUPT" AND "UNDEMOCRATIC TO THE CORE



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"Do not support the coup in Venezuela": a protester calls Mike Pompeo



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Today, @SecPompeo will deliver remarks to the media on #Venezuela at 4:30 p.m. ET.
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US will take all measures necessary to protect its diplomats in #Venezuela, says @SecPompeo.



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Yes, I can translate.... he said that anyone protesting and causing "vandalism" (like setting tires on fire) will get a 20 years jail time
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
 Quoting: Pacifica


Well, I can write you exactly what he is saying in Spanish and then you can look for the exact translation.

"Y le he pedido al fiscal general que sea celoso en la aplicación de la máxima pena de 20 años de cárcel a todo el que se capture en la calle quemando, asaltando, y haciendo actos de vandalismo que son pagados con dólares..."

So the translator is not translating correctly, you can listen to what Maduro is saying and then translate it in a Translator.
 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Thank you. The Spanish excerpt you sent me, in Google translate, is this:

"And I have asked the attorney general to be jealous in applying the maximum penalty of 20 years in prison to anyone who is captured on the street burning, assaulting, and doing acts of vandalism that are paid with dollars ..."

So at no point, either before or after the excerpt you sent me, does Maduro speak of 'cases where people are killed, and that in those cases people should get 20 years in prison?

If not, that's a pretty bad mistranslation from the woman.
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#Venezuela crisis is “deep, difficult and dangerous,” Abrams tells @StateDept reporters.
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and, how the Government of Britain nullifying the Brexit vote of the People.
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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
 Quoting: OceanMan


So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
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Well, I can write you exactly what he is saying in Spanish and then you can look for the exact translation.

"Y le he pedido al fiscal general que sea celoso en la aplicación de la máxima pena de 20 años de cárcel a todo el que se capture en la calle quemando, asaltando, y haciendo actos de vandalismo que son pagados con dólares..."

So the translator is not translating correctly, you can listen to what Maduro is saying and then translate it in a Translator.
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Thank you. The Spanish excerpt you sent me, in Google translate, is this:

"And I have asked the attorney general to be jealous in applying the maximum penalty of 20 years in prison to anyone who is captured on the street burning, assaulting, and doing acts of vandalism that are paid with dollars ..."

So at no point, either before or after the excerpt you sent me, does Maduro speak of 'cases where people are killed, and that in those cases people should get 20 years in prison?

If not, that's a pretty bad mistranslation from the woman.
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Nope, Maduro never mentions that part.
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VENEZUELA'S VP TELLS THAT A US MILITARY INTERVENTION IS POSSIBLE, BUT VENEZUELA WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM FOR UNITED STATES

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Huge demonstration for the New President tomorrow.

I fear Maduro will use Snipers on them like that bastard Yanukovich did in Ukraine.
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VENEZUELA'S VP TELLS THAT A US MILITARY INTERVENTION IS POSSIBLE, BUT VENEZUELA WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM FOR UNITED STATES

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VENEZUELA'S VP TELLS THAT A US MILITARY INTERVENTION IS POSSIBLE, BUT VENEZUELA WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM FOR UNITED STATES

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Intervention has been hinted at for a while now...
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Huge demonstration for the New President tomorrow.

I fear Maduro will use Snipers on them like that bastard Yanukovich did in Ukraine.
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Tree fiddy.
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a US maidan set up ... countered by secret russian mercs
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Huge demonstration for the New President tomorrow.

I fear Maduro will use Snipers on them like that bastard Yanukovich did in Ukraine.
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Tree fiddy.
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a US maidan set up ... countered by secret russian mercs
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the U.S. is in too much turmoil and disarray to fight anybody.
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HERE IS THE DOC

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Twenty years in a Venezeulan prison? That's a death sentence.
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So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
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Well, I can write you exactly what he is saying in Spanish and then you can look for the exact translation.

"Y le he pedido al fiscal general que sea celoso en la aplicación de la máxima pena de 20 años de cárcel a todo el que se capture en la calle quemando, asaltando, y haciendo actos de vandalismo que son pagados con dólares..."

So the translator is not translating correctly, you can listen to what Maduro is saying and then translate it in a Translator.
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Thank you. The Spanish excerpt you sent me, in Google translate, is this:

"And I have asked the attorney general to be jealous in applying the maximum penalty of 20 years in prison to anyone who is captured on the street burning, assaulting, and doing acts of vandalism that are paid with dollars ..."

So at no point, either before or after the excerpt you sent me, does Maduro speak of 'cases where people are killed, and that in those cases people should get 20 years in prison?

If not, that's a pretty bad mistranslation from the woman.
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But the quote provided by Spanish_guy, assuming it is accurate, isn't the full quote. After 'con dólares' he says something like 'máxima pena' again followed by something else which I can't work out because I don't know Spanish. Only after that he moves on to the next part of his speech.

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So is what the translator says there wrong?

Here . .

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

. . .the translator says that Maduro is saying . . .

cases of vandalism will be investigated and I want twenty years maximum prison sentence in those cases where human beings are killed or maltreated"

That's different from what you say. I'm presuming you're spanish speaking (from your name) but the translator says something different from you.
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Well, I can write you exactly what he is saying in Spanish and then you can look for the exact translation.

"Y le he pedido al fiscal general que sea celoso en la aplicación de la máxima pena de 20 años de cárcel a todo el que se capture en la calle quemando, asaltando, y haciendo actos de vandalismo que son pagados con dólares..."

So the translator is not translating correctly, you can listen to what Maduro is saying and then translate it in a Translator.
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Thank you. The Spanish excerpt you sent me, in Google translate, is this:

"And I have asked the attorney general to be jealous in applying the maximum penalty of 20 years in prison to anyone who is captured on the street burning, assaulting, and doing acts of vandalism that are paid with dollars ..."

So at no point, either before or after the excerpt you sent me, does Maduro speak of 'cases where people are killed, and that in those cases people should get 20 years in prison?

If not, that's a pretty bad mistranslation from the woman.
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Nope, Maduro never mentions that part.
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Ok, maybe the translator spoke about '20 years prison for cases where humans are killed or maltreated”, because just before the part of Maduro’s talk that you asked me to translate, Maduro says (at least according to the female translator):

“In the night of the 23 January, there were vandalisms, many groups who supported, the strike, one person was burned alive”

He says that at this point in the talk:

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I don’t know if “burned alive” means that he was actually killed, but that’s definitely a case of vandalism that involved more than just burning tires. Then just after that, Maduro speaks of another case of what he calls "vandalism" where a man's truck was burned and the person in the truck was 'maltreated'

So, maybe the translator's statement about 'cases of vandalism involving humans being killed or maltreated" is based on the entirety of what Maduro said. The full context.

Anyway, was just checking, thanks for helping.

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Caracas Reporter Says: ‘US Plot in Venezuela failing’

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Elliott Abrams: Trump appoints man who backed death squads in Latin America to 'oversee democracy efforts' in Venezuela

Donald Trump has announced that Elliott Abrams, a man who supported the use of death squads in Latin America, will lead the US’s efforts to press for democracy in Venezuela.

Secretary of state Mike Pompeo said the 71-year-old would oversee Washington’s outreach, after it declared it was recongising Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, and not elected president Nicolas Maduro, as the nation’s legitimate ruler.

“Elliott will be a true asset to our mission to help the Venezuelan people fully restore democracy and prosperity to their country,” Mr Pompeo said, . . .


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#Colombia won't provide US with bases needed for invasion in #Venezuela

The Colombian government is not going to provide the United States will military bases so that the latter could launch a possible military invasion in Venezuela, the Colombian Defense Ministry told Sputnik.

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Elliott Abrams: Trump appoints man who backed death squads in Latin America to 'oversee democracy efforts' in Venezuela


Donald Trump has announced that Elliott Abrams, a man who supported the use of death squads in Latin America, will lead the US’s efforts to press for democracy in Venezuela.

Secretary of state Mike Pompeo said the 71-year-old would oversee Washington’s outreach, after it declared it was recongising Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, and not elected president Nicolas Maduro, as the nation’s legitimate ruler.

“Elliott will be a true asset to our mission to help the Venezuelan people fully restore democracy and prosperity to their country,” Mr Pompeo said, . . .


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#Colombia won't provide US with bases needed for invasion in #Venezuela

The Colombian government is not going to provide the United States will military bases so that the latter could launch a possible military invasion in Venezuela, the Colombian Defense Ministry told Sputnik.

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Elliott Abrams: Trump appoints man who backed death squads in Latin America to 'oversee democracy efforts' in Venezuela


Donald Trump has announced that Elliott Abrams, a man who supported the use of death squads in Latin America, will lead the US’s efforts to press for democracy in Venezuela.

Secretary of state Mike Pompeo said the 71-year-old would oversee Washington’s outreach, after it declared it was recongising Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, and not elected president Nicolas Maduro, as the nation’s legitimate ruler.

“Elliott will be a true asset to our mission to help the Venezuelan people fully restore democracy and prosperity to their country,” Mr Pompeo said, . . .


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