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NYT: GUAIDO HAS MET MILITARY OFFICERS IN SECRET TO OUST MADURO
NYT: GUAIDO SAYS THERE ARE MEMBERS WITHIN THE MILITARY THAT RECOGNIZE THAT SITUATION CANNOT GO ON INDEFINITELY
NYT: GUAIDO SAYS MOST MEMBERS IN THE MILITARY SUPPORT A CHANGE


Is a military coup coming?
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So much winning.

Trump the Man.

Obama would not have had the Bollocks to kick Russia/China out of South America.
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EU parliament passes resolution urging EU states to recognize Guaido as Venezuela’s president


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NYT: GUAIDO HAS MET MILITARY OFFICERS IN SECRET TO OUST MADURO
NYT: GUAIDO SAYS THERE ARE MEMBERS WITHIN THE MILITARY THAT RECOGNIZE THAT SITUATION CANNOT GO ON INDEFINITELY
NYT: GUAIDO SAYS MOST MEMBERS IN THE MILITARY SUPPORT A CHANGE


Is a military coup coming?
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Venezuela's VP shows (imitating Bolton) a paper where you can read that 2 million armed militiamen are ready to face off United States and Colombia!
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...


How about this, New elections with UN monitors..???
 Quoting: Jake


Would it be fair to say the same when people claimed Russians hacked the presidential campaign to have the US go to elections again with monitors ?

Or for another vote on Br exit ?

If not why is it ?
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Why is it? Power and influence. Same as it ever was...
 Quoting: OceanMan


It would be undemocratic to do so, it wouldn't be unexpected of the west to accept such a term then its trusting the result to be legitimate, that in itself could lead to civil war.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Democracy has always been a sham.
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Just send Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders there. Let them demonstrate how to run a Socialist Country. If it doesn't work it's not a loss to the US.
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Fuck it they can have Corbyn
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lol
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BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says United States sanctions targeting Venezuela's oil company are illegal, & says Russia will take all necessary steps to support Nicolas Maduro's government.

Video:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica


Russia's "all necessary steps" versus the United State's "options on the table"...

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
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Is this the ass that @realDonaldTrump wants to install in Venezuela’s seat of power? Read my and @MaxBlumenthal's exposé of coup leader Juan Guaidó:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica



Check out this article. It's long, but well worth a read . .

The Making of Juan Guaidó: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela’s Coup Leader


By Max Blumenthal & Dan Cohen


[link to grayzoneproject.com (secure)]

Here are a few snippets from it . .


"While Guaidó is today sold as the face of democratic restoration, he spent his career in the most violent faction of Venezuela’s most radical opposition party, positioning himself at the forefront of one destabilization campaign after another. His party has been widely discredited inside Venezuela, and is held partly responsible for fragmenting a badly weakened opposition"

"Juan Guaidó is the product of a decade-long project overseen by Washington’s elite regime change trainers. While posing as a champion of democracy, he has spent years at the forefront of a violent campaign of destabilization"


"While Guaidó seemed to have materialized out of nowhere, he was, in fact, the product of more than a decade of assiduous grooming by the US government’s elite regime change factories"

"Guaidó might have been an obscure figure, but his combination of radicalism and opportunism satisfied Washington’s needs. “That internal piece was missing,” a Trump administration said of Guaidó. “He was the piece we needed for our strategy to be coherent and complete.”

"While he waits on direct assistance, Guaidó remains what he has always been – a pet project of cynical outside forces. “It doesn’t matter if he crashes and burns after all these misadventures,” Sequera said of the coup figurehead. “To the Americans, he is expendable.”

 Quoting: Pacifica


> Blumenthal
> Cohen

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BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says United States sanctions targeting Venezuela's oil company are illegal, & says Russia will take all necessary steps to support Nicolas Maduro's government.

Video:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica


Russia's "all necessary steps" versus the United State's "options on the table"...

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
 Quoting: OceanMan


Who's Kung Fu is strongest
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US threatens ‘serious consequences’ if Venezuela arrests ‘president’ Guaido

National Security Advisor John Bolton has threatened the government in Caracas that he denounced as “illegitimate” not to lay a finger on Juan Guaido, the opposition figure Washington considers to be Venezuela’s president.

“Let me reiterate – there will be serious consequences for those who attempt to subvert democracy and harm Guaido,” Bolton tweeted on Tuesday, addressing the “illegitimate former” attorney general of Venezuela who he said threatened the self-proclaimed president.


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siren2
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As I mentioned earlier, I saw this coming a month or more ago. They briefly detained him and then let him go on his way to a protest meeting.

These things have been in the works for a while now.

Shenanigans...
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National Assembly deputy Jose Guerra, citing "workers" inside the #Venezuela Central Bank, says that regime is trying to smuggle 20 tonnes of gold out of the Bank's vaults aboard a plane "that came from Moscow" #29Ene

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siren2
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No gold for the US ... sorry Pompeo, Bolton...too late chuckle if true...
 Quoting: Watchout


They apparently moved gold out of Ukraine just before or during the (fuck the EU) coup too, but this was a movement initiated by the "Empire".
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National Assembly deputy Jose Guerra, citing "workers" inside the #Venezuela Central Bank, says that regime is trying to smuggle 20 tonnes of gold out of the Bank's vaults aboard a plane "that came from Moscow" #29Ene

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

siren2
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No gold for the US ... sorry Pompeo, Bolton...too late chuckle if true...
 Quoting: Watchout


yeh. The Bank of England (NWO) has already stolen most of their Gold,
but not this load.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


They stole it by initally "securing" it and then not making it available...

drevil
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National Assembly deputy Jose Guerra, citing "workers" inside the #Venezuela Central Bank, says that regime is trying to smuggle 20 tonnes of gold out of the Bank's vaults aboard a plane "that came from Moscow" #29Ene

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

siren2
 Quoting: Watchout


No gold for the US ... sorry Pompeo, Bolton...too late chuckle if true...
 Quoting: Watchout


yeh. The Bank of England (NWO) has already stolen most of their Gold,
but not this load.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


They stole it by initally "securing" it and then not making it available...

drevil
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And this is why physical gold is slowly being repatriated from Fort Knox and that vault in NYC all around the world.

There are rumours that it has vanished, though.

Ever heard of radioactive gold? Check it out..

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BREAKING: Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov says United States sanctions targeting Venezuela's oil company are illegal, & says Russia will take all necessary steps to support Nicolas Maduro's government.

Video:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica


Russia's "all necessary steps" versus the United State's "options on the table"...

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
 Quoting: OceanMan


Who's Kung Fu is strongest
 Quoting: Stand Sure


chuckle
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Is this the ass that @realDonaldTrump wants to install in Venezuela’s seat of power? Read my and @MaxBlumenthal's exposé of coup leader Juan Guaidó:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica



Check out this article. It's long, but well worth a read . .

The Making of Juan Guaidó: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela’s Coup Leader


By Max Blumenthal & Dan Cohen


[link to grayzoneproject.com (secure)]

Here are a few snippets from it . .


"While Guaidó is today sold as the face of democratic restoration, he spent his career in the most violent faction of Venezuela’s most radical opposition party, positioning himself at the forefront of one destabilization campaign after another. His party has been widely discredited inside Venezuela, and is held partly responsible for fragmenting a badly weakened opposition"

"Juan Guaidó is the product of a decade-long project overseen by Washington’s elite regime change trainers. While posing as a champion of democracy, he has spent years at the forefront of a violent campaign of destabilization"


"While Guaidó seemed to have materialized out of nowhere, he was, in fact, the product of more than a decade of assiduous grooming by the US government’s elite regime change factories"

"Guaidó might have been an obscure figure, but his combination of radicalism and opportunism satisfied Washington’s needs. “That internal piece was missing,” a Trump administration said of Guaidó. “He was the piece we needed for our strategy to be coherent and complete.”

"While he waits on direct assistance, Guaidó remains what he has always been – a pet project of cynical outside forces. “It doesn’t matter if he crashes and burns after all these misadventures,” Sequera said of the coup figurehead. “To the Americans, he is expendable.”

 Quoting: Pacifica


> Blumenthal
> Cohen

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 Quoting: OceanMan


Well these are both Jewish surnames, obviously. But hey, I actually like Jews, even though they do tend to be fairly opinionated (like me).

Not all Jews are left-wing conspiracists, Netanyahu is actually right-ring conservative. Jews are just as conflicted as anybody.
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If I'm going to be suspicious about an article written by two Jews then I should also be suspicious about an article written by two people of Anglo-Saxon background.

chuckle
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ELLIOTT ABRAMS, TRUMP’S PICK TO BRING “DEMOCRACY” TO VENEZUELA, HAS SPENT HIS LIFE CRUSHING DEMOCRACY

ON DECEMBER 11, 1981 in El Salvador, a Salvadoran military unit created and trained by the U.S. Army began slaughtering everyone they could find in a remote village called El Mozote. Before murdering the women and girls, the soldiers raped them repeatedly, including some as young as 10 years old, and joked that their favorites were the 12-year-olds. One witness described a soldier tossing a 3-year-old child into the air and impaling him with his bayonet. The final death toll was over 800 people.

The next day, December 12, was the first day on the job for Elliott Abrams as assistant secretary of state for human rights and humanitarian affairs in the Reagan administration. Abrams snapped into action, helping to lead a cover-up of the massacre. News reports of what had happened, Abrams told the Senate, were “not credible,” and the whole thing was being “significantly misused” as propaganda by anti-government guerillas.

This past Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo named Abrams as America’s special envoy for Venezuela. According to Pompeo, Abrams “will have responsibility for all things related to our efforts to restore democracy” in the oil-rich nation.

The choice of Abrams sends a clear message to Venezuela and the world: The Trump administration intends to brutalize Venezuela, while producing a stream of unctuous rhetoric about America’s love for democracy and human rights. Combining these two factors — the brutality and the unctuousness — is Abrams’s core competency.


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As interesting as all this is, it's just another turn of the wheel. Nothing ever changes.

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As interesting as all this is, it's just another turn of the wheel. Nothing ever changes.
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NOTHING EVER HAPPENS, UNTIL IT DOES
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Okay, I think I'm done here, but this shit is pretty big.

There's a lot going on in the world today...
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And now YouTube cues up this great number immediatley after the Highwaymen:



Google must know what I like. chuckle

Also: [link to grammarist.com (secure)]

(I hope I got that right.)
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The Great Lakes are somewhat frozen now, lol!

It's just "global warming".
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chuckle

Aye, aye, aye...
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Wake up, people. You're living in a dream. NONE OF THIS REALLY MATTERS.

As a child I could walk on the ceiling...


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It doesn't matter, until it matters, but then you're almost dead.

See how this works?
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@jguaido

En este momento el FAES está en el apartamento de mi esposa Fabiana. Hago responsable al ciudadano Nicolás Maduro, por la integridad de mi hija que allí se encuentra.

Right now, FAES are in my wife's Fabiana house. I blame the person Nicolas Maduro if anything happens to my daugther that is there.


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Is this the ass that @realDonaldTrump wants to install in Venezuela’s seat of power? Read my and @MaxBlumenthal's exposé of coup leader Juan Guaidó:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Pacifica



Check out this article. It's long, but well worth a read . .

The Making of Juan Guaidó: How the US Regime Change Laboratory Created Venezuela’s Coup Leader


By Max Blumenthal & Dan Cohen


[link to grayzoneproject.com (secure)]

Here are a few snippets from it . .


"While Guaidó is today sold as the face of democratic restoration, he spent his career in the most violent faction of Venezuela’s most radical opposition party, positioning himself at the forefront of one destabilization campaign after another. His party has been widely discredited inside Venezuela, and is held partly responsible for fragmenting a badly weakened opposition"

"Juan Guaidó is the product of a decade-long project overseen by Washington’s elite regime change trainers. While posing as a champion of democracy, he has spent years at the forefront of a violent campaign of destabilization"


"While Guaidó seemed to have materialized out of nowhere, he was, in fact, the product of more than a decade of assiduous grooming by the US government’s elite regime change factories"

"Guaidó might have been an obscure figure, but his combination of radicalism and opportunism satisfied Washington’s needs. “That internal piece was missing,” a Trump administration said of Guaidó. “He was the piece we needed for our strategy to be coherent and complete.”

"While he waits on direct assistance, Guaidó remains what he has always been – a pet project of cynical outside forces. “It doesn’t matter if he crashes and burns after all these misadventures,” Sequera said of the coup figurehead. “To the Americans, he is expendable.”

 Quoting: Pacifica


> Blumenthal
> Cohen

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 Quoting: OceanMan


The article makes a good case to me, is there something in it that you think isn't correct ? (authors surnames aside) .

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It doesn't matter, until it matters, but then you're almost dead.

See how this works?
 Quoting: OceanMan


Repent now, heathens! LOL

Christianity has a stranglehold over some of the people on this forum. But they do get some things right; in particular, the urge to right oneself bofore God (or the Ultimate) in this lifetime.

Bringing things back to the topic of this thread, I am aware that many Venezuelans are Catholic, and that they take these ideas very seriously (as I do).

However, I am not Catholic.
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