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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We discuss power outages including CME and EMP, heating and cooking methods, first aid, foods; we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn and everyone in between.

Welcome!! Join us! Learn! Teach! Enjoy!!

What you need to put in a good medical/first aid kit is listed on Page 99. Copy or even add to the list there.

Discussion of hand-held HAM radios, especially Baofeng, begins on page 145.

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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances.

This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff.

I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events.
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Call me subscribed.

This is a fantastic idea, and I will be glued!

As time allows, I'll add my two cents (for what it's worth).

Pooka, great job! I'm glad you took the reins!
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Land

Land is expensive, but wealthy land-holders need managers and keepers. Even if you are poor, you can often find a land holder that needs to hire some sort of care taker.

Land will allow you to raise animals that can feed you or care for you. Land allows you close access to game, fish, foul. Land allows you to raise edible things from gardens, orchards, etc.

Land (for the rich or the poor) is the answer.
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WOOHOOOO! I love it! :)

Oil burns.

You can take a skillet, pour a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light.

Poof, you have a burner to cook on.

You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking.

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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances.

This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff.

I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Dark Wolf, it's horribly true that diabetics will die without insulin. I vaguely recall a post similar to what you mention, about a plant. Also a few years ago I found a different plant while researching for a friend whose grandmother had diabetes.

There has to be a way - let's find it!

Thank you for posting this - we don't know how many people on GLP have diabetes, and far more in their families. This is crucial information!
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...once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time [...] I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Research the effects of keto type diets on diabetes, and also the strong correlation of liver and pancreatic parasites to all types of sugar regulation problems.

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WOOHOOOO! I love it! :)

Oil burns.

You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light.

Poof, you have a burner to cook on.

You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Sounds like a great idea! Would you need a rack that fits the "burner" pan to hold up another pan to cook in?
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WOOHOOOO! I love it! :)

Oil burns.

You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light.

Poof, you have a burner to cook on.

You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I believe one of my sisters, the one who went into the Army, over a decade ago, she told the rest of our family how soldiers in the field are supposed to heat up their MREs. There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents so you're not eating up to ice cold MREs potentially out in the middle of nowhere.
The number one and two participants in the Oppression Olympics? The SJWs and Feminists.

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
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True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
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I agree. This opens so many doorways to answers you didn't think were possible to find.
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Sounds like a great idea! Would you need a rack that fits the "burner" pan to hold up another pan to cook in?

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Yup, you'd need something.

I was thinking maybe bricks on either side of the burner pan to hold up the food pan.

Probably a million different ways of doing that.
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WOOHOOOO! I love it! :)

Oil burns.

You can take a skillet, pout a little oil (or shortening) in it. Twist up a few pieces of paper towel for wicks, drop in the oil and light.

Poof, you have a burner to cook on.

You need to use a skillet/pan with a lid so you can snuff out the fire when y'r done cooking.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I believe one of my sisters, the one who went into the Army, over a decade ago, she told the rest of our family how soldiers in the field are supposed to heat up their MREs. There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents so you're not eating up to ice cold MREs potentially out in the middle of nowhere.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Is this something available to the public? Or is it only in MREs we'd have to get from an Army/Navy store?

I once found bags that will heat a can of food - can't even remember where I got them.
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
 Quoting: WOLF*


True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Or at least be alive long enough to help those who can fight, if you can't. I won't just lay down and give up. Isn't in me to do.
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...

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Agreed.

But I can do both at the same time.

And in the mean-time I'd like to avoid the physical suffering of hunger or thirst until I croak.
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
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We are glad that you have found the answer for yourself. Good job!

Most of us, however, wish to go on as long as possible, and this thread is for that purpose, not for spiritual or psychic preparedness.

Many of us are Christians, and the Lord doesn't allow us to suicide, even passively.
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
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True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


The people who are really scared of dying are going to be the ones willing to harm/kill others in order to extend their physical survival...

That will not be me....
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Save phone books for emergency toilet paper.
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Save phone books for emergency toilet paper.
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Great idea! Especially if you have like a New York or Fort Lauderdale phone book!!
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Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club

buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap. like 12-18 dollars

some dried and powdered soups and gravy's as well

dried beans too

Just the basics but you will survive

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Maybe we should start off with food and water.

That's usually the beginning of prepping.

Food can be very inexpensive if you focus on staples (dry pasta, dry rice, salt).

Water, I would suggest water containers and store tap water. As far as the most inexpensive method is concerned.
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Save phone books for emergency toilet paper.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I know most people don't want to hear this but,

Cotton cloths > used as TP > wash with bleach & soap > repeat

You can do this with no electricity using a plunge washer and a wringer.

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Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club

buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap.


Just the basics but you will survive
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Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein.

On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil.
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Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club

buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap.


Just the basics but you will survive
 Quoting: Jake


Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein.

On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil.
 Quoting: Pooka


I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour
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Save phone books for emergency toilet paper.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I know most people don't want to hear this but,

Cotton clothes > used as TP > wash with bleach & soap > repeat

You can do this with no electricity using a plunge washer and a wringer.

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 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


That's a possibility! Women used to use cloths the same way for feminine needs.

Costco has huge pkgs of bathroom tissue for not very much.
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Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club

buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap.


Just the basics but you will survive
 Quoting: Jake


Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein.

On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil.
 Quoting: Pooka


I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour
 Quoting: Jake


That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out?
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Bulk flour, rice and oil at costco or sams club

buy 50 to 100 lb bags for very cheap.


Just the basics but you will survive
 Quoting: Jake


Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein.

On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil.
 Quoting: Pooka


I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour
 Quoting: Jake


That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out?
 Quoting: Pooka


I get giant ziploc vacuum bags on the internet