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godblessya!

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My parents dealt with drinking water issues after the 1994 Northridge earthquake in So Cal.

They were told the city water was not safe for consumption.

They had to bring jugs to the National Guard water trailers to get potable water. This went on for months.

A good reason to store lots of potable water. The cost of some food-grade drums may seem excessive, but having them full reduces the urgency of thirst.
 Quoting: Crunch62


you can find drums on craigs list for cheap
 Quoting: godblessya!


What is the guarantee they are safe for potable water?
 Quoting: Pooka


You buy them or get them from food places, not chemical mfrs, lol. Usually they are labeled or you pick up directly from the business. It's pretty easy to tell what the content was as you generally have to clean them out yourself.
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RiffRaff said: Honey, peanut butter, peanuts, jerky, and other high-protein long-shelf-life items. You do have to be careful with real juices as they can sometimes have a short shelf-life (check the expiration dates). But vitamin waters aren't a bad idea. Also, stock up on some flavored drink mixes like Kool-Aid. There's no nutritional benefit but they are cheap, and they are priceless as a morale-booster to mask the bad taste of stored water.

Most people's water supply can be extended in a pinch by doing two things:
1: Save all "gray" water from brushing teeth, washing dishes, bathing, etc. It can be recycled and used to flush toilets or for other similar tasks to extend the drinking water supplies.

2: Save all urine in empty bottles and add a drop or two of bleach water for storage. Urine can be distilled for perfectly clean and safe drinking water. Gray water can be distilled as well.


Love the snacks, which boost morale, as well as energy. Good idea to check expiration codes on juices and everything else.

There are healthier flavor mixes for water than KoolAid and all that sugar. Try some with honey.

Totally right on the gray water for flushing - always!

Urine for drinking water - not for me, thank you. That's why I have all the other stuff! I believe you about it, I'm just not willing. Not my own urine nor anyone else's.

If stored water doesn't taste great, just pour back and forth between containers to re-oxygenate and improve flavor. Also can add a pinch of Vitamin C for similar purpose, especially if purified with a form of bleach.

The nuts are such a good idea, as is peanut butter. Protein which we will definitely need for muscles, for healing, for energy.

Nice job, RiffRaff!
 Quoting: Pooka


urine is sterile. It is 95% water, 2.5% urea and 2.5% expelled vitamins/minerals/your body specific antibodies.

People have survived by drinking their urine when trapped by, lets say an earthquake. I remember a story of a family trapped somewhere in the middle east. The man survived because he drank his pee. His wife and daughter refused and died before rescue came.

It is a head thing. Change it as it can safe your life. Additionally, there is a medical benefit to it. People have cured diseases by drinking their urine as your body makes antibodies and excretes all it does not need at that moment. By reingesting the urine, you reingest the antibodies which are specific to your body.

Many medicines are made of urine proteins, and I remember some 15 years ago when I first read about this, there was an easily found ad online from porta john, selling their urine to the pharmaceutical companies. urine is an ultrafiltrate of blood and is not harmful except insofar as medications go as they are excreted in the urine too.

Bottom line is, don't eschew something because it's considered gross. Study it for yourself, and while you may not want to go on a urine cure...wrap your mind around it as a survival item which could keep you alive long enough to get past a crisis.

We have roadblocks in our minds that can kill us. We have to learn to break them down, go around them, whatever is needed to let you be the man who survived the earthquake and not his dead wife and daughter.

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And because **iniquity shall abound**, the love of many shall wax cold
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This is a very good thread..well, currently there's only 3 posts in the thread, but it's the link in the first post that people should read.

Thread: Great big pdf link here re: you are being surveillanced much more indecently than you thought

See, this is my take on preps. We prep for the calamities that may befall us in the terms of natural disasters, but I think most of us prep to a large degree because we think tswhtf and there will a societal collapse.

I know that is my main reason for prepping. And most people think technology will go away, we'll be thrown back to the stone age and all of this.

Look at that link. They are setting up technology to absolutely be able to know what is going on everywhere at every moment. To know who is who and what they are doing, where they are going, and who they associate with.

I posted this before, I'm a believer in the bible and in the book of revelation. We will not go back to the stone age, imo, we will not lose our technology, we will not lose our power for long periods overall.

Antichrist NEEDS this tech to do what it is they are going to do. We are not going to be bereft of all of our advances. We may be for a short time, but it will quickly be restored.

In my preps, this is my main consideration. Not so much how to survive when the power goes off, but how to survive when you are the hunted, when you are the one who can't buy and sell, when you are not able to sustain yourself in a fully technical society...

Where living off the land in an apocalyptic landscape, where you have survived, but lots of others haven't, and no one will bother you except the scavenger criminals who want your stuff... is not how it goes.

No. I just don't see it going down that way.

I prepare for when I will be the enemy of society based on my beliefs and my civil disobedience in not conforming to the mark/antichrist system.

And I prepare assuming that there will be all of the things in the link above, and more than these, operative in the world... and aligned against me.

Believers, please consider this, because imo, tshtf event that we are all anticipating is not gonna be what we expect.

Your friends will become your enemies, and it's not gonna be anything like planting a victory garden and eking out a sustenance ala the 1930s when people formed communities and lived off the land.

It will be having to scramble to eke out whatever you can to eat, whether that be pigeons, rats, wild vegetation, all while having to avoid capture.

Now it may not be like that at first, but it will come to that. And I see people assuming they can maintain in place, with their supplies, and thinking they'll get through.

And if you're not a christian, you likely will be ok provided you survive the initial catastrophes that will bring us to that place where we'll accept the AC.

But if you are a christian, or you become a christian, and you've not been raptured, start thinking about how you will survive as a fugitive with nuttin...

cuz I believe that is what the reality will be for us.

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God Bless You!

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end
Isaiah 9:7

Wise men still seek Him.

And because **iniquity shall abound**, the love of many shall wax cold
Matthew 24:12

I do not give red.
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Well....In a trapped situation, I would probably do that. Hope I wouldn't throw it up though.

But...
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Well....In a trapped situation, I would probably do that. Hope I wouldn't throw it up though.

But...
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 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


pinch your nose, close your eyes, and chug!

easy peesy lol

I would think the first time would be the hardest.

be aware also that it would be a stop gap measure

your body will use the liquid more and more until there is no pee, so you still have to try to get out of the predicament you're in asap.

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Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end
Isaiah 9:7

Wise men still seek Him.

And because **iniquity shall abound**, the love of many shall wax cold
Matthew 24:12

I do not give red.
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Don't drink urine!

Pee is largly amonia.

"People might survive INSPITE of drinking urine...not BECAUSE of it"! (Cody Lundin - Dual Survival)
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Don't drink urine!

Pee is largly amonia.

"People might survive INSPITE of drinking urine...not BECAUSE of it"! (Cody Lundin - Dual Survival)
 Quoting: Mental Case


not true, urine in not ammonia at all. It is 2.5% urea, which can eventually break down into ammonia, but that takes a while. Urine is not ammonia, it is closer to blood.

Do not get scientific information from these kind of sources. Dual Survival? Really?!

google it looking for scientific sources, not morons talking about things they don't know anything about...
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A lack of safe drinking water is a common result of disasters, natural or otherwise. But some people argue that even in such situations we have plenty to drink, as long as we don’t turn up our noses at it. Squeamishness aside, is it safe to drink your urine?

With several caveats and under certain conditions, yes, it is safe to drink your urine.

[link to urologysurgerycenter.com (secure)]
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This is western science above. In real life, eastern societies have ingested their urine for millennia safely.

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Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end
Isaiah 9:7

Wise men still seek Him.

And because **iniquity shall abound**, the love of many shall wax cold
Matthew 24:12

I do not give red.
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They've waited too long without water to be able to think straight now.

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Another valuable lesson.

Don't wait until you are thirsty before you start thinking about water!

You should still have a few gallons (atleast) on hand while you are making up a plan to get & purify more water!!!
 Quoting: Mental Case


Truth.

Being on a private well, there is nothing more urgent than getting up in the morning and realizing there is no water.

Of course, we do have water stocked, but the convenience of flushing toilets, taking a shower, etc, come into play.

A non-functioning well creates a sense of urgency, far more than a simple power outage. I have been there many times.

Sad for the people who have no water to drink.
 Quoting: Crunch62


A portable generator with a 240v output should run your well pump. Not that it's cheap to get the wiring you need to do so safely and with the ability to go back and forth between main power and generator power as necessary (roughly $1,000). In a really dire emergency you could theoretically splice the wires manually if you knew what you were doing, but I DO NOT recommend this! If you make a mistake you could blow both the well pump and short out the generator.

Even with that capability, I still have 90 days of potable water stored in our shelter, just in case it's not safe to run the generator.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


I have a generator that I connect to the main panel via an interlock. It runs the well pump and the house.

I am talking about failure of the pump, broken pipes or wiring issues. An urgent 'right now' issue to diagnose and fix.
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RiffRaff said: Honey, peanut butter, peanuts, jerky, and other high-protein long-shelf-life items. You do have to be careful with real juices as they can sometimes have a short shelf-life (check the expiration dates). But vitamin waters aren't a bad idea. Also, stock up on some flavored drink mixes like Kool-Aid. There's no nutritional benefit but they are cheap, and they are priceless as a morale-booster to mask the bad taste of stored water.

Most people's water supply can be extended in a pinch by doing two things:
1: Save all "gray" water from brushing teeth, washing dishes, bathing, etc. It can be recycled and used to flush toilets or for other similar tasks to extend the drinking water supplies.

2: Save all urine in empty bottles and add a drop or two of bleach water for storage. Urine can be distilled for perfectly clean and safe drinking water. Gray water can be distilled as well.


Love the snacks, which boost morale, as well as energy. Good idea to check expiration codes on juices and everything else.

There are healthier flavor mixes for water than KoolAid and all that sugar. Try some with honey.

Totally right on the gray water for flushing - always!

Urine for drinking water - not for me, thank you. That's why I have all the other stuff! I believe you about it, I'm just not willing. Not my own urine nor anyone else's.

If stored water doesn't taste great, just pour back and forth between containers to re-oxygenate and improve flavor. Also can add a pinch of Vitamin C for similar purpose, especially if purified with a form of bleach.

The nuts are such a good idea, as is peanut butter. Protein which we will definitely need for muscles, for healing, for energy.

Nice job, RiffRaff!
 Quoting: Pooka


You're not drinking the urine; you're drinking the water that you've distilled from the urine. Urine is 95% water. Distilling it removes that other 5% and leaves behind just plain old drinkable water.
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This is a very good thread..well, currently there's only 3 posts in the thread, but it's the link in the first post that people should read.

Thread: Great big pdf link here re: you are being surveillanced much more indecently than you thought

See, this is my take on preps. We prep for the calamities that may befall us in the terms of natural disasters, but I think most of us prep to a large degree because we think tswhtf and there will a societal collapse.

I know that is my main reason for prepping. And most people think technology will go away, we'll be thrown back to the stone age and all of this.

Look at that link. They are setting up technology to absolutely be able to know what is going on everywhere at every moment. To know who is who and what they are doing, where they are going, and who they associate with.

I posted this before, I'm a believer in the bible and in the book of revelation. We will not go back to the stone age, imo, we will not lose our technology, we will not lose our power for long periods overall.

Antichrist NEEDS this tech to do what it is they are going to do. We are not going to be bereft of all of our advances. We may be for a short time, but it will quickly be restored.

In my preps, this is my main consideration. Not so much how to survive when the power goes off, but how to survive when you are the hunted, when you are the one who can't buy and sell, when you are not able to sustain yourself in a fully technical society...

Where living off the land in an apocalyptic landscape, where you have survived, but lots of others haven't, and no one will bother you except the scavenger criminals who want your stuff... is not how it goes.

No. I just don't see it going down that way.

I prepare for when I will be the enemy of society based on my beliefs and my civil disobedience in not conforming to the mark/antichrist system.

And I prepare assuming that there will be all of the things in the link above, and more than these, operative in the world... and aligned against me.

Believers, please consider this, because imo, tshtf event that we are all anticipating is not gonna be what we expect.

Your friends will become your enemies, and it's not gonna be anything like planting a victory garden and eking out a sustenance ala the 1930s when people formed communities and lived off the land.

It will be having to scramble to eke out whatever you can to eat, whether that be pigeons, rats, wild vegetation, all while having to avoid capture.

Now it may not be like that at first, but it will come to that. And I see people assuming they can maintain in place, with their supplies, and thinking they'll get through.

And if you're not a christian, you likely will be ok provided you survive the initial catastrophes that will bring us to that place where we'll accept the AC.

But if you are a christian, or you become a christian, and you've not been raptured, start thinking about how you will survive as a fugitive with nuttin...

cuz I believe that is what the reality will be for us.
 Quoting: godblessya!


Thank you for that thread and link, sweety.

If this is the "that" time, then yes, you are right. It is we who won't take the mark that have lost our lease on normal life of any kind. Being unable to buy and sell is only the beginning of that. There likely will become a bounty on our heads, and that will begin the worst of the hunting.

Due to physical limitations I wont' make it far into that stage, but my God has a plan - I won't know what it is until that time, though I hope those who believe in the Rapture will be correct and away we go. If not, I accept that I will die. I will simply be praying for His strength not to take the mark, no matter what comes.

So good of you to post this, Gby - of course you are right. I am hoping for this not to be quite that time, but it IS coming, and we likely are the generation to see it, as all the signs seem coming together.

Thank you again.

For those of you who are not Christians yet, please know the difference in all this talk of taking the mark is that those who take the mark will not go to heaven. It's that simple, and that serious. We don't know for sure what the mark will be - there are a lot of possibilities discussed, but there are some "marks" already in use with an implant in the wrist and things like that. Whatever the case, those who take the mark will not go to heaven.

There really is a heaven and a hell. Talk to Gby or me, once you have your stars back, and we can help you on the way to heaven by sharing our Lord Jesus Christ with you. No pressure - you get to make your own choice, as always. We'd just like you to be going with us when we go upward to live forever!
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RiffRaff said: Honey, peanut butter, peanuts, jerky, and other high-protein long-shelf-life items. You do have to be careful with real juices as they can sometimes have a short shelf-life (check the expiration dates). But vitamin waters aren't a bad idea. Also, stock up on some flavored drink mixes like Kool-Aid. There's no nutritional benefit but they are cheap, and they are priceless as a morale-booster to mask the bad taste of stored water.

Most people's water supply can be extended in a pinch by doing two things:
1: Save all "gray" water from brushing teeth, washing dishes, bathing, etc. It can be recycled and used to flush toilets or for other similar tasks to extend the drinking water supplies.

2: Save all urine in empty bottles and add a drop or two of bleach water for storage. Urine can be distilled for perfectly clean and safe drinking water. Gray water can be distilled as well.


Love the snacks, which boost morale, as well as energy. Good idea to check expiration codes on juices and everything else.

There are healthier flavor mixes for water than KoolAid and all that sugar. Try some with honey.

Totally right on the gray water for flushing - always!

Urine for drinking water - not for me, thank you. That's why I have all the other stuff! I believe you about it, I'm just not willing. Not my own urine nor anyone else's.

If stored water doesn't taste great, just pour back and forth between containers to re-oxygenate and improve flavor. Also can add a pinch of Vitamin C for similar purpose, especially if purified with a form of bleach.

The nuts are such a good idea, as is peanut butter. Protein which we will definitely need for muscles, for healing, for energy.

Nice job, RiffRaff!
 Quoting: Pooka


You're not drinking the urine; you're drinking the water that you've distilled from the urine. Urine is 95% water. Distilling it removes that other 5% and leaves behind just plain old drinkable water.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


I recall some years ago, before the southern border was a crisis, reading of a group coming up from Mexico. The coyotes dropped them in the desert and deliberately pointed the wrong way. They quickly ran out of water and were struggling along in the terrible heat, going and going with no destination in sight.

What brings this to mind is that the story and quotes said the people fought over their urine - some wanted to wet a cloth with it to put on their heads. I don't recall if there was anything about drinking it, but I imagine some were desperate enough.

If I were trapped in a building, for example, and had been for a day or more, very likely the overwhelming compulsion to survive would mean drinking my own urine if I could reach it, so in that way I can believe you are right. Could just be the will to survive and the insane thirst I've read about brings a person to their own urine and thereby survives.

So sad about the husband and family - Seems like when they saw the father being far m ore okay than they were, they would have changed their minds, rather than die.
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This is a very good thread..well, currently there's only 3 posts in the thread, but it's the link in the first post that people should read.

Thread: Great big pdf link here re: you are being surveillanced much more indecently than you thought

See, this is my take on preps. We prep for the calamities that may befall us in the terms of natural disasters, but I think most of us prep to a large degree because we think tswhtf and there will a societal collapse.

I know that is my main reason for prepping. And most people think technology will go away, we'll be thrown back to the stone age and all of this.

Look at that link. They are setting up technology to absolutely be able to know what is going on everywhere at every moment. To know who is who and what they are doing, where they are going, and who they associate with.

I posted this before, I'm a believer in the bible and in the book of revelation. We will not go back to the stone age, imo, we will not lose our technology, we will not lose our power for long periods overall.

Antichrist NEEDS this tech to do what it is they are going to do. We are not going to be bereft of all of our advances. We may be for a short time, but it will quickly be restored.

In my preps, this is my main consideration. Not so much how to survive when the power goes off, but how to survive when you are the hunted, when you are the one who can't buy and sell, when you are not able to sustain yourself in a fully technical society...

Where living off the land in an apocalyptic landscape, where you have survived, but lots of others haven't, and no one will bother you except the scavenger criminals who want your stuff... is not how it goes.

No. I just don't see it going down that way.

I prepare for when I will be the enemy of society based on my beliefs and my civil disobedience in not conforming to the mark/antichrist system.

And I prepare assuming that there will be all of the things in the link above, and more than these, operative in the world... and aligned against me.

Believers, please consider this, because imo, tshtf event that we are all anticipating is not gonna be what we expect.

Your friends will become your enemies, and it's not gonna be anything like planting a victory garden and eking out a sustenance ala the 1930s when people formed communities and lived off the land.

It will be having to scramble to eke out whatever you can to eat, whether that be pigeons, rats, wild vegetation, all while having to avoid capture.

Now it may not be like that at first, but it will come to that. And I see people assuming they can maintain in place, with their supplies, and thinking they'll get through.

And if you're not a christian, you likely will be ok provided you survive the initial catastrophes that will bring us to that place where we'll accept the AC.

But if you are a christian, or you become a christian, and you've not been raptured, start thinking about how you will survive as a fugitive with nuttin...

cuz I believe that is what the reality will be for us.
 Quoting: godblessya!


Thank you for that thread and link, sweety.

This is true preparing, though it's not why we started this thread, nor will we be thumping Bibles or preaching. Gby was very good to give us the heads-up, and it presents a choice to everyone who reads here.

If this is the "that" time, then yes, you are right. It is we who won't take the mark that have lost our lease on normal life of any kind. Being unable to buy and sell is only the beginning of that. There likely will become a bounty on our heads, and that will begin the worst of the hunting.

Due to physical limitations I wont' make it far into that stage, but my God has a plan - I won't know what it is until that time, though I hope those who believe in the Rapture will be correct and away we go. If not, I accept that I will die. I will simply be praying for His strength not to take the mark, no matter what comes.

So good of you to post this, Gby - of course you are right. I am hoping for this not to be quite that time, but it IS coming, and we likely are the generation to see it, as all the signs seem coming together.

Thank you again.

For those of you who are not Christians yet, please know the difference in all this talk of taking the mark is that those who take the mark will not go to heaven. It's that simple, and that serious. We don't know for sure what the mark will be - there are a lot of possibilities discussed, but there are some "marks" already in use with an implant in the wrist and things like that. Whatever the case, those who take the mark will not go to heaven.

There really is a heaven and a hell. Talk to Gby or me, once you have your stars back, and we can help you on the way to heaven by sharing our Lord Jesus Christ with you. No pressure - you get to make your own choice, as always. We'd just like you to be going with us when we go upward to live forever!
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I wish we were getting first hand reports out of venezuela.

Please keep an eye out for it & post it here.

I'll bet there are many stories unfolding now about how society is falling apart & things we could learn from it.
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Your friends will become your enemies, and it's not gonna be anything like planting a victory garden and eking out a sustenance ala the 1930s when people formed communities and lived off the land.

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We are already seeing that with Trump derangement syndrome.

Families not speaking to eachother...same with friends...people being attacked for the cap they wear.
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I wish we were getting first hand reports out of venezuela.

Please keep an eye out for it & post it here.

I'll bet there are many stories unfolding now about how society is falling apart & things we could learn from it.
 Quoting: Mental Case


The firsthand tweets and videos hit the VZ thread as soon as they have them, so that's the place to look.

Craziness is, MSM is doing nearly nothing on this incredibly huge story!!

Is anyone here able to translate from Spanish to English, please?

As a rule, people need to follow the VZ thread for latest news just as I do, but here is finally a newspaper article - not what we want to know, but it's something.

[link to sputniknews.com (secure)]

I'm going to try very hard not to say anything in that thread as I was trolled horrible and redded badly for trying to stop the "nothingburger" trolls and shills from misleading newcomers.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

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Your friends will become your enemies, and it's not gonna be anything like planting a victory garden and eking out a sustenance ala the 1930s when people formed communities and lived off the land.

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We are already seeing that with Trump derangement syndrome.

Families not speaking to eachother...same with friends...people being attacked for the cap they wear.
 Quoting: Mental Case


From here on, better not to talk to anybody about anything but the weather, and even there, be careful! LOL

Many who thought Q was everything and a bag of chips are understanding he/it is a psych op.

Many others who believed Trump to be everything and a bag of chips are turning due to nothing being done as promised.

Just in those two cases alone a person would not not know whom they would be safe conversing with, from what direction.

Better just not talk - only smile and nod and wave and get about your own work of self-preservation.
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Today I had to run out to the beach to see my doctor and accomplish a couple other errands. Stopped by the town grocery store where the meat is great and sales frequent.

Looked for Gby's three-minute pasta - none at all of any brand. They did have several Ronzoni pastas, but none fast cooking.

Interestingly, there are always carts in the front of the store of things on sale. I rarely get there any more but today was perfect.

Aluminum bottles of water, screw-top lids, alkaline water! Almost a quart for a dollar and a pint for fifty cents. I bought four large and two small. Seems like quite a find! Alkaline water has not been easy to find here, and it's the best thing for inflammations.

So we know not to cook in aluminum pots - how is it drinking water from aluminum bottles? Is the heating what makes the pans bad? So cold drinks are fine? Opinions, please.
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03/12/2019 10:17 PM

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GodBlessYa, where did you find the three-minute pasta? Helper and I both looked today at Walmart and there was nothing of that brand, nor any other package that mentioned limited cooking time.
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ronzoni quick cook 3 minute pasta...i got it at my local super market..stop and shop

here is what it looks like, note that there are other brands
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Thank you very much for the photos. Nothing like any of that at Walmart today. Nothing on eBay, surprisingly. Only one, and that very questionable, on Amazon. I'd say you were very, very fortunate!
 Quoting: Pooka


Call your local grocery stores and ask if they have it. All of them have it here, but walmart does not carry it.

Looked at grocery store ads in your area and was floored...

4 lbs of sugar...1.59 on sale.. $4 on sale here
ribeye 5.99 lb on sale----$12 on sale here
potatoes 33¢ a lb----.99¢ here on sale
potatoes 50lbs $15.00! biggest bag here 10lb, on sale $5
onions 33¢ lb.....1.99 lb here!
bunch of cilantro 59¢ .....1.99 here
avocados 59¢, here 1.25 on sale, sometimes 1.00 but they are soft and no good

and so forth

I was stunned.

But anyhow, call around, i'll bet the local groceries have it.
 Quoting: godblessya!


Considering what you told me about rents in your area, I'm not surprised there is a difference in grocery costs. A lot of our fresh foods come up from California and that's a quick close trip. To get to you would cost a lot more. Potatoes are grown right here, as are onions, cilantro, all kinds of things. Avocados come from Mexico most often.

Only two more grocery stores to check, and one is Safeway, where I NEVER go, but helper could look there for me. I'll check the other one soon.

There is a pkg of Ronzoni precooked pasta, which then takes three minutes to heat - this isn't what you mean, is it? Saw it at my favorite discount grocery at a decent price, and again today at the beach at an outrageous price. Didn't buy either time. Maybe need to go back to good store and pick up a couple?
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Spam post above gone.

There are whispers among twitterers that there may be military attempt at coup tonight.

Breakdown in substation in Maracaibo. Seems like someone is still trying to take out and keep off the power. Video in above post person states she knows it is NOT the US doing all this. I have no opinion beyond grave concern for all the innocent people there.

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Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

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Everyone went to sleep early?
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03/13/2019 12:25 AM
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Everyone went to sleep early?
 Quoting: Pooka


Who can sleep? Insomnia is a bitch.

I reported some of the more abusive posts from the VZ thread. Any AC talking to a registered user like that should be permanently IP banned, IMHO.
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Today I had to run out to the beach to see my doctor and accomplish a couple other errands. Stopped by the town grocery store where the meat is great and sales frequent.

Looked for Gby's three-minute pasta - none at all of any brand. They did have several Ronzoni pastas, but none fast cooking.

Interestingly, there are always carts in the front of the store of things on sale. I rarely get there any more but today was perfect.

Aluminum bottles of water, screw-top lids, alkaline water! Almost a quart for a dollar and a pint for fifty cents. I bought four large and two small. Seems like quite a find! Alkaline water has not been easy to find here, and it's the best thing for inflammations.

So we know not to cook in aluminum pots - how is it drinking water from aluminum bottles? Is the heating what makes the pans bad? So cold drinks are fine? Opinions, please.
 Quoting: Pooka


Editing w/ research on aluminum bottles - it's all in the liner, apparently.
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Bottom line seems to be do not put in dishwasher, and verify whether lined or not. Lined is not good.
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Everyone went to sleep early?
 Quoting: Pooka


Who can sleep? Insomnia is a bitch.

I reported some of the more abusive posts from the VZ thread. Any AC talking to a registered user like that should be permanently IP banned, IMHO.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some that were aimed at me? If so, thank you very much! I didn't report any of them but sure got some red!

Did you notice the one who said he was going to log in to red me? He did so - did not sign it, and returned to thread as an AC. Nice.

I'm very sorry you have insomnia! Any particular reason?

I asked you recently if you would give your location - as general as you like, and told you I am in WA state out on the coast.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

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Everyone went to sleep early?
 Quoting: Pooka


Who can sleep? Insomnia is a bitch.

I reported some of the more abusive posts from the VZ thread. Any AC talking to a registered user like that should be permanently IP banned, IMHO.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some that were aimed at me? If so, thank you very much! I didn't report any of them but sure got some red!

Did you notice the one who said he was going to log in to red me? He did so - did not sign it, and returned to thread as an AC. Nice.

I'm very sorry you have insomnia! Any particular reason?

I asked you recently if you would give your location - as general as you like, and told you I am in WA state out on the coast.
 Quoting: Pooka


I've had problems sleeping ever since I was a kid. Can't shut my brain off.

I live in Indianapolis. My wife and I have been to Seattle and camped in Olympic National Park, although that's probably been 15 years ago now.
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Everyone went to sleep early?
 Quoting: Pooka


Who can sleep? Insomnia is a bitch.

I reported some of the more abusive posts from the VZ thread. Any AC talking to a registered user like that should be permanently IP banned, IMHO.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some that were aimed at me? If so, thank you very much! I didn't report any of them but sure got some red!

Did you notice the one who said he was going to log in to red me? He did so - did not sign it, and returned to thread as an AC. Nice.

I'm very sorry you have insomnia! Any particular reason?

I asked you recently if you would give your location - as general as you like, and told you I am in WA state out on the coast.
 Quoting: Pooka


I've had problems sleeping ever since I was a kid. Can't shut my brain off.

I live in Indianapolis. My wife and I have been to Seattle and camped in Olympic National Park, although that's probably been 15 years ago now.
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I'm really glad you have been in this area and enjoyed the glorious green state and mild weather!! Indianopolis sounds very hot in summer and way too cold and snowy in winter. But if it is home to you, if you are happy there, that is the right place for you, as this is the right place to me after a couple continents and many states.

Not much happening in the VZ thread tonight - I promised myself I'd do my best to be quiet in there, and haven't said a word.

One of the trolls from there last night spammed us here twice in succession tonight. I deleted one and reported one. Should have reported both, but didn't know how fast mods were working. Some very bad people there, as on several other threads.
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Who can sleep? Insomnia is a bitch.

I reported some of the more abusive posts from the VZ thread. Any AC talking to a registered user like that should be permanently IP banned, IMHO.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Some that were aimed at me? If so, thank you very much! I didn't report any of them but sure got some red!

Did you notice the one who said he was going to log in to red me? He did so - did not sign it, and returned to thread as an AC. Nice.

I'm very sorry you have insomnia! Any particular reason?

I asked you recently if you would give your location - as general as you like, and told you I am in WA state out on the coast.
 Quoting: Pooka


I've had problems sleeping ever since I was a kid. Can't shut my brain off.

I live in Indianapolis. My wife and I have been to Seattle and camped in Olympic National Park, although that's probably been 15 years ago now.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


I'm really glad you have been in this area and enjoyed the glorious green state and mild weather!! Indianopolis sounds very hot in summer and way too cold and snowy in winter. But if it is home to you, if you are happy there, that is the right place for you, as this is the right place to me after a couple continents and many states.

Not much happening in the VZ thread tonight - I promised myself I'd do my best to be quiet in there, and haven't said a word.

One of the trolls from there last night spammed us here twice in succession tonight. I deleted one and reported one. Should have reported both, but didn't know how fast mods were working. Some very bad people there, as on several other threads.
 Quoting: Pooka


I had the same problem with sleep as a child, so I started practicing to see how many different tracks my brain could run on at one time. Had great fun doing it, would fall asleep eventually. Don't recall if I got up to fifteen or twenty-four or what it was before I got tired of it. Didn't know til later adulthood that most people don't and can't do that.

Might try it for fun - could help you sleep. Also gives you something to focus your mind on so it isn't endlessly rolling on other matters.

Best wishes with it!
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Recommending people keep watch on this thread for a bit.
Thread: IDF: In1 hour we will declasify intelligence on our enemy right here on Twitter(1 hour ago)

Two posts:

Prepping to go into syria and possibly Lebanon if shit goes down.

Joel 3 is upon us, Everybody be prepared.
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I thought I would add a few ideas that have worked for me:

1. 55 gal. drums. I have a business that uses acids, caustic soda, etc. that come in 55 gal. HDPE drums. A lot of businesses use such and would be happy to be rid of the empty drums. Ask nicely and you may get a few. Rinse at least 3 times with water and they are perfectly safe. For example, hydrochloric acid is what they use in swimming pools. Each rinsing lowers the concentration of any residue by a factor of 100. Therefore, 3 rinses equals one millionth of the original residue. The drums are great for storing water.

2. Cut 55 gal. drums in half to get extra large, extra strong planters. I drill a few holes to act as drains. Great for growing veggies if you only have a patio.

3. Cut larger holes in the sides of a drum to use for potatoes. Plant in the bottom. As the potatoes grow, poke the vines out the holes in the sides and add more dirt on top. You can grow over 50 lb. of potatoes in one drum.

4. Steel drums, especially with removable lids, make great storage containers. I purchase these for as little as $9 each locally. They are rat and bug proof. You can store sugar in mylar bags inside in a barn or garage. Salt, vinegar, and other stuff not affected by heat.

You can also add kitty litter and a bit of bug spray and disinfectant to the bottom. Put newspaper over that and load in winter clothing, camping gear, etc. for long term storage. Beats the hell out of a plastic tote from Wally Mart that will fall apart after a few years. BTW, the kitty litter is to absorb moisture. Bug spray is obvious. Disinfectant to eliminate mold/mildew.

Even full drums of grain in bags or whatever can be moved with a two wheel dolly.

Also, steel drums are ideal for old computers, etc, to protect them from EMP.
 Quoting: darth


Thank you so much for this, Darth! I would love to take some of those drums off your hands for planting! Wish we were closer!

This is totally new information to most of us, about what can be made safe for water and foods! So great of you to share your expertise! I would not have taken a chance on one, without this post from you!
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I would not use a drum that contained hydrocarbons such as mineral spirits. That taste is hard to eliminate.

The acid drums such as hydrochloric and sulfuric are the easiest to clean and use safely.

Search for drums on Craigs or whatever. Most are overpriced, but you can bid lower.
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Well....In a trapped situation, I would probably do that. Hope I wouldn't throw it up though.

But...
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My grandfather was a young cowboy riding from North Texas to New Mexico Territory to homestead some land around 1900.

He ran out of water and, in desperation, he caught his horse's urine in his hat and tried to drink it.

He threw up and was worse off than before.

Obviously, he survived.

BTW, some of my Commanche ancestors would kill a horse when they ran out of water. The stomach has water in it that will keep you alive.
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Well....In a trapped situation, I would probably do that. Hope I wouldn't throw it up though.

But...
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 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


My grandfather was a young cowboy riding from North Texas to New Mexico Territory to homestead some land around 1900.

He ran out of water and, in desperation, he caught his horse's urine in his hat and tried to drink it.

He threw up and was worse off than before.

Obviously, he survived.

BTW, some of my Commanche ancestors would kill a horse when they ran out of water. The stomach has water in it that will keep you alive.
 Quoting: darth


WOW! SO sorry for your grandfather - how did he survive and do you know why he didn't have enough water in a leather bag? of course stuff always happens when we travel, even back then! LOL

The stomach of a poor horse, dying for the cause. Sad.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

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