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Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

 
Pooka  (OP)

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Do you think a simple solar panel would be damaged? It isn't electronic, just crystals and a couple of wires.

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I can't say for sure...but whatever you connect that solar pannel to would likely be damaged.
 Quoting: Mental Case


True. Not much point in trying to charge a fried phone.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Found myself wondering today if there is any advantage in having a flip phone over a smart phone, in an EMP or other power issue. Is it possible a fliphone would come through better than a smart phone?
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When the system breaks down. Be aware of tactics that can be used against you or your group. Know what the enemy is capable of doing. Avoid traps and ambushes.

Most maybe in defensive positions, but one needs also to be mindful of offenses that can be used against someone.

Lots of info and videos out there to research.

A couple videos is just an introduction. Although these videos may seem extreme, tactics are tactics.


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I am sure this has been discussed before, but should be brought up from time to time.

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PonyUp, thank you for joining us and thank you for these videos! Wisdom we need, all of us, having our minds clear and full of wisdom and ideas, means to survive, warnings about potential issues.

Thank you again! hf
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When it comes to an EMP or carrington event or even a faraday cage...nobody can say for certain.

It's all in theory.

I just try to prep for no electricity at all, and that way any electricity will be a blessing.
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That would have many advantages, especially for me being a woman alone, despite I have so much knowledge to contribute for others able to do the physical work.

How do you suggest we do this?
 Quoting: Pooka


It was a joke. We would probably eat each other anyway!
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


Aww c'mon - don't you think it really was a great idea on your part? I did, though I don't see how to make it work logistically.

I would appreciate having male preppers around, as I am only me, and can't very well guard a front door, a sliding glass door, a large front window, and a very light garage door which connects to the house. Sound like fun?
 Quoting: Pooka


You know your neighbors? If so how well?
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Not terribly well. Across the fence are nice people, but they have their own adult kids to think about as well as themselves. He is very capable, and has a generator that powers their whole house. She has brought me hot water when our power was out. I don't think I could count on them for defense. The others - no. Just no.
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Do you think a simple solar panel would be damaged? It isn't electronic, just crystals and a couple of wires.

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I can't say for sure...but whatever you connect that solar pannel to would likely be damaged.
 Quoting: Mental Case


True. Not much point in trying to charge a fried phone.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Found myself wondering today if there is any advantage in having a flip phone over a smart phone, in an EMP or other power issue. Is it possible a fliphone would come through better than a smart phone?
 Quoting: Pooka


Possibly, but neither would be of any use if the cell network is down.
What the Hell?...
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and can't very well guard a front door, a sliding glass door, a large front window, and a very light garage door which connects to the house. Sound like fun?

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Pooka, it sounds like you need a "fall back position".

A hallway is usually a good idea. Where only 1 or 2 could fit side by side...as you shot them, others would have to stumble over them to get at you...shoot them too!

By the time you have 6 or 7 bodies laying there, others can't get past the wall of bodies to get at you. Giving you time to reload.

Think the battle of Thermopylae.

You want to create a "bottleneck" for people to have to pass thru.

Maybe a doorway would create that bottleneck.

My fall back position is at the bottom of my stairs.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Mental Case, I think you just helped me in a big way! I know exactly where to stand! They couldn't shoot me in the back very well from outside the house because bullets would have to go through the outer wall, a closet full of clothing, and an inner wall. I would expect to find bullets in the waistbands of slacks in the closet. LOL Not sure of that, but would expect so.

Next questions, though. Now that they have broken into the house, how do I seal it up again?

Now that I have a stack of bodies, how do I get rid of them? I could probably pull them with my power wheelchair, out the door, but no further. That's okay - good warning piled up there. I could do one or two and be exhausted - and still have to take care of sealing up the house again.

If you wouldn't mind staying with me on this, I would surely sleep much better if a plan was set firmly in my mind.

Thank you for your great ideas!!! There is another person here whom I will not name who could also use a lot of this planning.
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Do you think a simple solar panel would be damaged? It isn't electronic, just crystals and a couple of wires.

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I can't say for sure...but whatever you connect that solar pannel to would likely be damaged.
 Quoting: Mental Case


True. Not much point in trying to charge a fried phone.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Found myself wondering today if there is any advantage in having a flip phone over a smart phone, in an EMP or other power issue. Is it possible a fliphone would come through better than a smart phone?
 Quoting: Pooka


Possibly, but neither would be of any use if the cell network is down.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I am thinking of what is happening with the cell phones in VZ - they work sometimes, in some places. I am going to optimistically assume the same will be true here.
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True. Not much point in trying to charge a fried phone.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Found myself wondering today if there is any advantage in having a flip phone over a smart phone, in an EMP or other power issue. Is it possible a fliphone would come through better than a smart phone?
 Quoting: Pooka


Possibly, but neither would be of any use if the cell network is down.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I am thinking of what is happening with the cell phones in VZ - they work sometimes, in some places. I am going to optimistically assume the same will be true here.
 Quoting: Pooka


Cell towers have electronic equipment that could be damaged, and also require power which may not be available after such an event.

There are portable cell sites on trailers that can be used after disasters that connect to the rest of the world using microwave communication to bypass any local infrastructure damage. Assuming it all isn't fried by such an event.
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Next questions, though. Now that they have broken into the house, how do I seal it up again?

Now that I have a stack of bodies, how do I get rid of them?

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Survive first...worry about other things later!

The bodies you could sell as food :D

(ball of marauder is a delicacy).

Did you ever see "Eating Raul"?

Or trade them for somebody to seal up your home...you'd need a sheet of plywood & probably some plastic...nails...

If they gained enterance by kicking in a door...you could just nail the door back into position...it just wouldn't open any more.

Sliding glass door, I would put a pipe or 2X4 in the track so it could not slide open...then they would have to break it.

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Pooka, you could reinforce that position by taking some plywood and gluing scraps of leather to it & setting it against the wall in the back of your closet.

It would help slow down/stop bullets and would take up no space at all.

Surplus stores sell scraps of leather for pennies a pound. Overlap the pieces.

Just make sure you are standing infront of it while on the other side of the wall.

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Cell towers have electronic equipment that could be damaged, and also require power which may not be available after such an event.

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You also have to have power to the computers at the phone company.

When somebody dials my number...those computers route the call to my phone & my phone rings.

If those computers are down...calls ain't gonna be connected.
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Here's an article about what's happening in VZ. Doesn't say much to us preppers, but I ask you to look at the babies, "little bones covered with skin" keep reading the story as you go down, and then have a look at Maduro. How many meals has he missed in order to feed starving babies he has left to die?
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Cell towers have electronic equipment that could be damaged, and also require power which may not be available after such an event.

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You also have to have power to the computers at the phone company.

When somebody dials my number...those computers route the call to my phone & my phone rings.

If those computers are down...calls ain't gonna be connected.
 Quoting: Mental Case


This is why I say I am looking at communications in VZ - I choose hope that we may sometimes be able to make phone calls.

A few pages back, I made a request of people here - particularly those who have some knowledge in communications and electronics. Nobody responded. I will try again.

Will people here who have more knowledge than most of us, in comnunications and electronics, please find a way for the core group of us, which means anybody dedicated here and more who may come, to keep in touch after SHTF. I believe it would take some sort of relay, so we would have to have geographic designators and a schedule of relays.

I know this is do-able. We just need people here with the right expertise.

I wish this to happen for multiple reasons. Let's just start with the ability to encourage each other. That alone is crucial. There are more reasons.
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Pooka, you could reinforce that position by taking some plywood and gluing scraps of leather to it & setting it against the wall in the back of your closet.

It would help slow down/stop bullets and would take up no space at all.

Surplus stores sell scraps of leather for pennies a pound. Overlap the pieces.

Just make sure you are standing infront of it while on the other side of the wall.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I don't know much about the power of bullets - is it that easy to shoot through an outer wall and insulation, the inner wall, a closet full of clothing, and another inner wall? My feeling was that the bullets would be found among the clothing.
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When it comes to an EMP or carrington event or even a faraday cage...nobody can say for certain.

It's all in theory.

I just try to prep for no electricity at all, and that way any electricity will be a blessing.
 Quoting: Mental Case


It is all theory, but I did a lot of research on this subject for an article I wrote for DWS. There was some testing performed on vehicles back in the 80s. The studies found that a majority of vehicles, while sustaining some damage to electronics such as radio or dash instrumentation, would still be capable of starting and being driven normally.

As for other electronics, if they are powered down and not plugged into a power outlet at the time of the event, they may survive the pulse. Any device that is plugged into a household outlet will almost certainly be destroyed.

The most important thing to understand is how a nuclear EMP is broken down into three components - E1, E2, and E3 - and how each component can affect various electronics.

Only a nuclear detonation will produce all three components. The E2 component is very similar in effect as a bolt of lightning hitting your house, and the effects of a massive coronal mass ejection such as the Carrington Event are very similar to the E3 component.

So, my recommendations are as follows:
1: Store a netbook computer or tablet and other small, sensitive electronics in a shielded safe, preferable in a basement or underground shelter area. They should survive all components of an EMP. For instance, in our safe we have a small netbook computer loaded with survival documentation, a GPS unit (which probably won't function if the satellites are knocked out), two "burner" cell phones (which probably won't function if the cellular networks are destroyed), and two shortwave radios for communications.

2: If a nuclear crisis reaches DEFCON 2 level or higher, unplug as many electronics from their outlets in your house as possible. They may survive; they may not, but it's worth the attempt.

3: Don't assume that once an EMP weapon has gone off at high altitude that it's now safe to bring out all of your electronics. Wait until the nuclear exchange has completely halted.

4: Don't just assume your car won't start after an EMP hit. Try to start it and see what happens. Some research indicated that disconnecting the battery from a damaged vehicle for a few minutes then reconnecting it may allow the vehicle to start.

As Mental Case said, prepare as if there is going to be no electricity at all, that way if any electronics survive it's gravy on top of what you're prepared for.
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Next questions, though. Now that they have broken into the house, how do I seal it up again?

Now that I have a stack of bodies, how do I get rid of them?

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Survive first...worry about other things later!

The bodies you could sell as food :D

(ball of marauder is a delicacy).

Did you ever see "Eating Raul"?

Or trade them for somebody to seal up your home...you'd need a sheet of plywood & probably some plastic...nails...

If they gained enterance by kicking in a door...you could just nail the door back into position...it just wouldn't open any more.

Sliding glass door, I would put a pipe or 2X4 in the track so it could not slide open...then they would have to break it.
 Quoting: Mental Case


There is a cut-to-measure piece of wood that I jam into the slider every evening and remove every morning. They wouldn't be able to take the door out, I don't think. Unfortunately, the glass could easily be broken, thus gaining entry.

Roast marauder doesn't quite appeal to me, and I would be happy to share, but let's say cannibalism isn't happening at the time. A few people might want a body or two as warning to other gangs. But - I am not in great touch with neighbors, and really it depends on me to get rid of them. I can move what I can out the front door and leave them there. The odor will quickly become very troublesome. Also, that's the door I would use to pack the car and leave if that had to happen.

A few bodies outside the slider - toss them down the steps - remember we are talking about me doing this - I don't toss anything except maybe my laundry! It would take immense damaging effort, but I would do it.

Everyone please note: My intention is not to clog up the thread with my personal constraints and possible situations - I hope everyone is reading this with a view to their own situation, what they might have to contend with, how much of this advice might be helpful to them.

Thank you everyone for advice and suggestions - please continue, and also talk about situations you may face, and how you expect to handle them.

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RiffRaff, just want to tell you that you are such a blessing!! Your skill sets are somewhat different from the rest of us, in subjects we really need! Each of us is bringing a different skill set, of course, and most of us have a different mindset as well.

Thank you greatly for what you bring to the table, and the rest of you, as well. God bless each of you!

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When it comes to an EMP or carrington event or even a faraday cage...nobody can say for certain.

It's all in theory.

I just try to prep for no electricity at all, and that way any electricity will be a blessing.
 Quoting: Mental Case


It is all theory, but I did a lot of research on this subject for an article I wrote for DWS. There was some testing performed on vehicles back in the 80s. The studies found that a majority of vehicles, while sustaining some damage to electronics such as radio or dash instrumentation, would still be capable of starting and being driven normally.

As for other electronics, if they are powered down and not plugged into a power outlet at the time of the event, they may survive the pulse. Any device that is plugged into a household outlet will almost certainly be destroyed.

The most important thing to understand is how a nuclear EMP is broken down into three components - E1, E2, and E3 - and how each component can affect various electronics.

Only a nuclear detonation will produce all three components. The E2 component is very similar in effect as a bolt of lightning hitting your house, and the effects of a massive coronal mass ejection such as the Carrington Event are very similar to the E3 component.

So, my recommendations are as follows:
1: Store a netbook computer or tablet and other small, sensitive electronics in a shielded safe, preferable in a basement or underground shelter area. They should survive all components of an EMP. For instance, in our safe we have a small netbook computer loaded with survival documentation, a GPS unit (which probably won't function if the satellites are knocked out), two "burner" cell phones (which probably won't function if the cellular networks are destroyed), and two shortwave radios for communications.

2: If a nuclear crisis reaches DEFCON 2 level or higher, unplug as many electronics from their outlets in your house as possible. They may survive; they may not, but it's worth the attempt.

3: Don't assume that once an EMP weapon has gone off at high altitude that it's now safe to bring out all of your electronics. Wait until the nuclear exchange has completely halted.

4: Don't just assume your car won't start after an EMP hit. Try to start it and see what happens. Some research indicated that disconnecting the battery from a damaged vehicle for a few minutes then reconnecting it may allow the vehicle to start.

As Mental Case said, prepare as if there is going to be no electricity at all, that way if any electronics survive it's gravy on top of what you're prepared for.
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I am surprised to think a vehicle might start after an EMP, other than one close to fifty years old. Had to sell mine because I couldn't get in and out any more - too high.

Need to try to remember what you said - disconnect battery for a while first.

I need to make a cage for my older business-type laptop, with a couple cords and this and that.

Don't know anything about burner phones - why did you do that? What do you expect from them? Is it because you have to keep your usual cellphone with you, that would be fried, so just to have any kind of cellphone? What do they cost, and how do they work? I mean - mine is connected through the business online I purchased it from and who supply my connectivity. YOu can tell I barely know how to useit, much less talk about it! LOL I only got it because where I lived until recently was 35 miles from town where all shopping is done, and it's a long, lonely highway, steep ditches on each side of much of it, and tide flats or salt water on either side, depending on tide in or out. Bought it for emergencies and that's all I use it for.

So, you take the burner phones out of the safe and we'll assume power and celltowers suddenly working again. How do you use the phone? It doesn't have your phone number, and isn't connected to whomever supplied your connectivity on your usual phone. Maybe everybody here knows these answers, but I'm betting some are as ignorant as I am.

Thank you very much for all your help in these matters!
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Was I busy so long everyone has gone to bed? I do hope not! Would miss all of you!

Hope our resident insomniac will be here to hang out!

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and can't very well guard a front door, a sliding glass door, a large front window, and a very light garage door which connects to the house. Sound like fun?

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Pooka, it sounds like you need a "fall back position".

A hallway is usually a good idea. Where only 1 or 2 could fit side by side...as you shot them, others would have to stumble over them to get at you...shoot them too!

By the time you have 6 or 7 bodies laying there, others can't get past the wall of bodies to get at you. Giving you time to reload.

Think the battle of Thermopylae.

You want to create a "bottleneck" for people to have to pass thru.

Maybe a doorway would create that bottleneck.

My fall back position is at the bottom of my stairs.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Mental Case, I think you just helped me in a big way! I know exactly where to stand! They couldn't shoot me in the back very well from outside the house because bullets would have to go through the outer wall, a closet full of clothing, and an inner wall. I would expect to find bullets in the waistbands of slacks in the closet. LOL Not sure of that, but would expect so.

Next questions, though. Now that they have broken into the house, how do I seal it up again?

Now that I have a stack of bodies, how do I get rid of them? I could probably pull them with my power wheelchair, out the door, but no further. That's okay - good warning piled up there. I could do one or two and be exhausted - and still have to take care of sealing up the house again.

If you wouldn't mind staying with me on this, I would surely sleep much better if a plan was set firmly in my mind.

Thank you for your great ideas!!! There is another person here whom I will not name who could also use a lot of this planning.
 Quoting: Pooka


Pook,
You could use a set of casters or maybe get one of those potted plant movers with the rolling casters... you know, to help you drag the dead bodies outta your house.

I am joking!!

I hope and pray that you will never have be fighting off people with guns ... but if you do, it sounds like you have almost everything pre-planned out.

Tonight I checked in to see your thread. Lately I've been getting the impression that we are nearing that time when all your preps will be worth their weight in gold.. and I'm not kidding.

About 4-5 years ago I got burned out of prepping and finally gave all my thoughts about it to Jesus and gave it up completely.
Partly, because my husband is/was 30 years Marine Corps and he deals with guns and he does the shopping, I stay home with the dogs etc.
I am taken care of so I am deeply grateful and blessed.
If my hubby get whacked and I have to push him out the door (with my potted plant casters) then I have Jesus.
So, I have everything. Every single thing.
In Jesus.

If I was on my own, I'd maybe do what you are doing... or maybe not. Things are... the way that is is.
I just don't know.
ANYWAY...I had a thought of you so I checked in to say hi and I am brazen enough to ask you why you haven't put an ad out for a prepper man, in your area to be friends with.
That is something that I WOULD DO.
I like men and I like how they are strong. They can make you crazy tho'... I sure would feel better if you had one.

I was not going to write ANY of that... but my mouth dropped open when when you said something about roasting marauders...

I actually forgot what made me think of you, and I had something else to say.. uh, oh, I forget.

Well, I'll check back to see what you say.

Don't forget to add CASTERS to your prep list (joking again). But, maybe not??
 Quoting: Rayelle


Rayelle, wonderful to see you! So happy you came - and please know you are most welcome to stay whether you choose to prep or not!

Plant casters and a man - both now on my shopping list.

I like men, too! I especially like the bigger variety, maybe even with a beard. A man's man sort of fellow. That would be such fun! I'd love the feeling of being protected and looked after - heavenly! However, being ill with lupus and having physical restrictions do not make me a desirable partner, and I have not even enough energy for myself, much less enough to make a partner feel like I am contributing to the relationship. I couldn't go for a walk, for example, or any one of a million things normal people do. Half the time I can hardly stand up! LOL

Other than that, Heck yes I'd be looking for a prepper guy who is a dog lover!!! First thing tomorrow morning!

Instead, I'd better find some plant casters, eh? LOL

The good Lord will indeed take care of us Christians, and I'm very thankful for that! My prepping involves praying first - Lord, would you have me do this or that? Lord, should I get this? Lord, tell me what You would have me do. That's how I go about it. I wouldn't expect to be around long unless something medically marvelous happens - not meaning I would pass before TSHTF, but that I couldn't struggle long and hard to survive. Mainly I am concerned about my girls - my dogs. I have to care for and protect them as long as possible.

Meanwhile, I love that you have your husband! He sounds like one of the greater treasures I've learned of! One who takes care of you and keeps you safe and content - amazing! I love staying home with the dogs, too. Gardening, all that. The world doesn't have much of anything to offer me - home is better. I love the quiet, the time that is spent just knowing God's presence. Can't do that out in the noisy world. Never been a mall-goer, any of that stuff, just as I don't do FB and social media in general. Just like the quiet.

I do hope you can keep your plant casters under your plants and not your husband! Much more decorative that way.

Does your husband prep? Or is he not of that mindset? You said he does the shopping but didn't mention if he brings home "extras".

Yes, more and more we are becoming certain we approach the end times. Years ago I thought quite a bit about prepping, and while I did none of it other than gardening and a lot of canning, but I learned a lot and felt it would be a good idea. Now I see things happening in the world, very unpleasant, threatening things, and I see it in people, too. People are no longer predictable, and kind, and courteous. They've become crazed, and angry, and greedy, and frightening - this is not the nation I have known. Unfortunately, it seems to be the same in every other country - people must surely have demons, many of them. Anyway, we will see what happens, all of us, and how we handle it when the time comes. You are ideally situated, Rayelle, and I am so very glad for you!

Just recently I have felt compelled to do a few things - prepping things which I would hope would enable me to shelter in place with the girls. It is possible we could jump in our vehicle and take off, and I do have a mind-list of what needs to go with us, but of course would forget a full half, but no particular destination, and the physical discomfort and efforts that would be required "out there" somewhere would probably overcome me shortly.

I must sound horribly depressed and/or hopeless - so sorry for that, to everyone! I am not in the least depressed or hopeless. I am pretty factual and realistic and just moving through what I can and cannot do. Some years ago I wrote my last wishes and placed them where they would best be handled. That wasn't the least depressed or hopeless. It felt wonderful to have that done! Like brushing my hands together - okay, another task handled.

Prepping is similar at this time - just one more thing to accomplish, and I do love accomplishing things! Another thing to tick off the list! Except I like learning, and like learning about prepping right now, and sharing what I know and what I learn, and learning from people here.

So, bottom line, all is well with me indeed, other than the absence of prepping, dog-loving man and a few plant casters!!

Hugs for you, my dear. Do hang out with us!

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I don't know much about the power of bullets - is it that easy to shoot through an outer wall and insulation,

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It depends on the type of gun & bullet...but yeah, a 30-06 will punch thru 4 walls and still kill you.

It will penetrate most body armors.

There have been very effective armors made out of paper!

When you fold a piece of paper IN HALF 7 times...you have a square of 128 layers...you can make armor of those little squares and it will stop all knives, swords, arrows, and some bullets.
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Roast marauder doesn't quite appeal to me, and I would be happy to share,

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Tsk tsk...has GLP taught you nothing?

You obviously need some A-1 sauce! :)
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I don't know much about the power of bullets - is it that easy to shoot through an outer wall and insulation,

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It depends on the type of gun & bullet...but yeah, a 30-06 will punch thru 4 walls and still kill you.

It will penetrate most body armors.

There have been very effective armors made out of paper!

When you fold a piece of paper IN HALF 7 times...you have a square of 128 layers...you can make armor of those little squares and it will stop all knives, swords, arrows, and some bullets.
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.45 ACP. Short, fat and slow.

It will punch a big hole in the bad guy and knock him down, but it won't penetrate multiple walls and kill your neighbor across the street.
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I don't know much about the power of bullets - is it that easy to shoot through an outer wall and insulation,

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It depends on the type of gun & bullet...but yeah, a 30-06 will punch thru 4 walls and still kill you.

It will penetrate most body armors.

There have been very effective armors made out of paper!

When you fold a piece of paper IN HALF 7 times...you have a square of 128 layers...you can make armor of those little squares and it will stop all knives, swords, arrows, and some bullets.
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I had no idea of the power of paper! Always have relied on the power of the pen, but so good to know about paper, too! Thanks!
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Roast marauder doesn't quite appeal to me, and I would be happy to share,

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Tsk tsk...has GLP taught you nothing?

You obviously need some A-1 sauce! :)
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Oh dear! You are quite right! Have to get the A1!
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I don't know much about the power of bullets - is it that easy to shoot through an outer wall and insulation,

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It depends on the type of gun & bullet...but yeah, a 30-06 will punch thru 4 walls and still kill you.

It will penetrate most body armors.

There have been very effective armors made out of paper!

When you fold a piece of paper IN HALF 7 times...you have a square of 128 layers...you can make armor of those little squares and it will stop all knives, swords, arrows, and some bullets.
 Quoting: Mental Case


.45 ACP. Short, fat and slow.

It will punch a big hole in the bad guy and knock him down, but it won't penetrate multiple walls and kill your neighbor across the street.
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Sounds a nice size to have!
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This is why we have to have cash at home and not plan on a bank or ATM.
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This is why I say I am looking at communications in VZ - I choose hope that we may sometimes be able to make phone calls.

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Communication is overrated.

What would the people in venezuella have to say to eachother right now?

How's it going mike?

Well jim...I'm starving to death and fighting for my life against rampaging marauders.

Yeah, pretty much the same here...plus no water...welp, it's been good talkin' to ya man.
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This is why we have to have cash at home and not plan on a bank or ATM.

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I have no argument with cash...but don't rely on it too much.

If the stores are closed, your cash wont do you any good.

So have cash...but have preps as well. (and remember where the vending machines are...I might have left 1 box of boston baked beans in it).
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