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Go 'way, silly AC.
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Understanding Emergencies

The foundation of Integrated Skills Group, Understanding Emergencies is the lens through which we view every potential problem and find solutions.


This starts with a very harsh scenario:

You’re driving along a freeway, beginning onto an overpass when your steering wheel jolts. In a fraction of a second, the bridge gives way and the car dives nose-first into the river below. The car begins to fill with water.

Have you considered a situation like this? Can you open your door or window in such a situation? Do you know how the car's weight will affect how it sinks? Elements such as this all play into your ability to survive, and it starts with a finite amount of breathable oxygen. If you're able to escape the sinking vehicle, you'll be cold and wet. In this example, rescue is probably not far away, but you must act quickly and decisively to not succumb to the lack of oxygen, or to die from exposure.

There are three sections, longish, with great information on types of emergencies and what is needed and how to handle them. Excellent information - highly recommended for thinking and preparing and being aware.

[link to www.integratedskillsgroup.com (secure)]
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Whispering Leaves, wherever you are - adjunct to our earlier conversation, I am reading about a man's survival experiences and plans in Arizona, and happened onto this paragraph:

Merino wool Underwear, kept in a small dry bag fits at the bottom of your bag in cooler temps, and is a life saver when you need it. It insulates when wet, doesn’t itch and is one piece of gear you cannot afford to be without. Poly pro is an acceptable substitute but I know wool is a better bet for my own life.

How interesting, eh?
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Very interesting.
I had to come back on my tablet. Laptop went nuts. Keyboard types by itself, windows scroll and can't relieve it even plugging in another keyboard, sigh..it's like a scene from The Sorcerer's Apprentice. We had one of those combo storms, like the Postal Service slogan: rain, snow, hail and dark of night too and I have leaks so maybe a drop of water got on it and....fried it?

Now I'm online trying to learn how to take the thing apart right, all by myself, sniff sniff. It's the trade-off of being 200 miles from anybody who could tell me anything. Microsux site chat told me to take the motherboard out and I 'can still use the device, just not the touchpad.' Do you think the guy was just making fun of me?

Who's the guy in Arizona?
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I had to come back on my tablet. Laptop went nuts. Keyboard types by itself, windows scroll and can't relieve it even plugging in another keyboard, sigh..it's like a scene from The Sorcerer's Apprentice. We had one of those combo storms, like the Postal Service slogan: rain, snow, hail and dark of night too and I have leaks so maybe a drop of water got on it and....fried it?

Now I'm online trying to learn how to take the thing apart right, all by myself, sniff sniff. It's the trade-off of being 200 miles from anybody who could tell me anything. Microsux site chat told me to take the motherboard out and I 'can still use the device, just not the touchpad.' Do you think the guy was just making fun of me?


 Quoting: whispering leaves


My keyboard is messed up as well, I spilled something in it. It got down into the motherboard as well (no, it won't work without the motherboard).

Here is something you can try. Unplug it and remove the battery. Hold the power button down for about 15 seconds. Openit up and stand it on it's side and let it sit that way for a day or two. You want to drain any moisture out.

I got back almost full functionality after doing this. The Z, X, and spacebar are still a bit persnickety.

I'll probably have to replace the keyboard. After 17 years as a computer/IT guy, I hate working on laptops. My eyes are getting so bad those tiny screws can be hard to see.
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I hasta gotsta tell ya...I hit a jackpot at the casino today banana2

I was up down up down then I had a couple nice hits that put me back to even...then I held an ace & ended up with a royal flush!

When ya hit big you (I) start betting stupid & give it all back, so I cashed out & was gonna leave, but decided to throw 40 more bucks at it...and hit another $600 to throw onto the pile :D

Then I ran out the door as fast as my legs would carry me!

WOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

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I hasta gotsta tell ya...I hit a jackpot at the casino today banana2

I was up down up down then I had a couple nice hits that put me back to even...then I held an ace & ended up with a royal flush!

When ya hit big you (I) start betting stupid & give it all back, so I cashed out & was gonna leave, but decided to throw 40 more bucks at it...and hit another $600 to throw onto the pile :D

Then I ran out the door as fast as my legs would carry me!

WOOOHOOOOOOOOO!
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That will buy a lot of SPAM! ;)
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That will buy a lot of SPAM! ;)

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This is true :)

It was such a shock to hold one card & have the other 4 cards form a royal! I was like...HOLY CARP! Wasn't expecting that to happen.

Maybe I should invest it all into chocolate bunnys!

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Definitely a concern here in CA. They keep expanding the list of who can file such papers. It basically boils down to anyone who doesn't like you.

Scary stuff.
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AC 77501891 about? Just ran across something I'd like your opinion on, at your convenience.

It is an open secret inside the ham radio community the VOICE communications used by ARES/RACES will be disinformation, while the information sent out over digital will be truthful.

Read that as anything you scan ( in time of emergency ) from your County/State Emergency Services will be false.

If You want to know what is really happening around you, YOU need digital capabilities in both your VHF and HF radio setups.


Further - just tried to read this page and shook my head - interpretation of only as much of this as I need to know, please? [link to quietsurvivalist.com]
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There might be a different culture between analog and digital modes in ham radio, I haven't been able to discern that yet. It may not be a coincidence that I prefer digital but the majority have an analog preference. I am the link between two states via packet radio if that becomes the option of choice.

As far as your link, I understand your confusion. Understanding comes from actually doing. Local repeaters are the easiest to get started with, NVIS is a great strategy to cover reasonable distances without depending on atmospheric conditions but the really long hauls require certain circumstances. It all depends on your antenna. Many people focus on the radio but at the end of the day it is the antenna that determines whether a signal breaks out of the signal floor. In other words, it is less important what radio you have, it is more important what kind of antenna is hooked to it.

A 'rubber duck' kind of antenna is perfectly adequate for local connections but you should build one too for the experience.
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Definitely a concern here in CA. They keep expanding the list of who can file such papers. It basically boils down to anyone who doesn't like you.

Scary stuff.
 Quoting: Crunch62


The same here in WA state - anybody with a bad attitude or a really lousy sense of humor can make such a call and there you are. I feel for those who have numerous "items". I lost the only two I had not long ago off the top of my car. Stupid mistake. hf
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There might be a different culture between analog and digital modes in ham radio, I haven't been able to discern that yet. It may not be a coincidence that I prefer digital but the majority have an analog preference. I am the link between two states via packet radio if that becomes the option of choice.

As far as your link, I understand your confusion. Understanding comes from actually doing. Local repeaters are the easiest to get started with, NVIS is a great strategy to cover reasonable distances without depending on atmospheric conditions but the really long hauls require certain circumstances. It all depends on your antenna. Many people focus on the radio but at the end of the day it is the antenna that determines whether a signal breaks out of the signal floor. In other words, it is less important what radio you have, it is more important what kind of antenna is hooked to it.

A 'rubber duck' kind of antenna is perfectly adequate for local connections but you should build one too for the experience.
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Thank you so much for the response!

Baofengs arrived today - WHOOPEEEE - but cord to use computer to do whatever it is has not yet arrived, nor has the longer antenna.

I've read bits and pieces about basically running a wire up the outside corner of the house, fastened with wood, for a taller antenna. Could it be as simple as that? Must the other end of the wire come inside and be attached to the radio?

Starting to wonder if my concentration is up to all this. Starting on night oxygen shortly which should be helpful. It all sounds a lot of work. Wish you were next door!

Thank you again.
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It was such a shock to hold one card & have the other 4 cards form a royal! I was like...HOLY CARP! Wasn't expecting that to happen.

Maybe I should invest it all into chocolate bunnys!
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Congratulations on your big wins! So about these bunnies. My inbox holds only envelopes so far - no packages, no plastic-wrapped bunnies, no chicken delight. What's the hold-up? Ah's awaitin'!!
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Very interesting.
I had to come back on my tablet. Laptop went nuts. Keyboard types by itself, windows scroll and can't relieve it even plugging in another keyboard, sigh..it's like a scene from The Sorcerer's Apprentice. We had one of those combo storms, like the Postal Service slogan: rain, snow, hail and dark of night too and I have leaks so maybe a drop of water got on it and....fried it?

Now I'm online trying to learn how to take the thing apart right, all by myself, sniff sniff. It's the trade-off of being 200 miles from anybody who could tell me anything. Microsux site chat told me to take the motherboard out and I 'can still use the device, just not the touchpad.' Do you think the guy was just making fun of me?

Who's the guy in Arizona?
 Quoting: whispering leaves


Oh dear - sorry to learn about your laptop - poor thing! Hope Crunch's advice helps you!

I don't remember who the Arizona person was - might have been Aaron at GypsyEDC but honestly don't recall.

Glad you are able to return via your tablet while your laptop takes the cure!
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There might be a different culture between analog and digital modes in ham radio, I haven't been able to discern that yet. It may not be a coincidence that I prefer digital but the majority have an analog preference. I am the link between two states via packet radio if that becomes the option of choice.

As far as your link, I understand your confusion. Understanding comes from actually doing. Local repeaters are the easiest to get started with, NVIS is a great strategy to cover reasonable distances without depending on atmospheric conditions but the really long hauls require certain circumstances. It all depends on your antenna. Many people focus on the radio but at the end of the day it is the antenna that determines whether a signal breaks out of the signal floor. In other words, it is less important what radio you have, it is more important what kind of antenna is hooked to it.

A 'rubber duck' kind of antenna is perfectly adequate for local connections but you should build one too for the experience.
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Thank you so much for the response!

Baofengs arrived today - WHOOPEEEE - but cord to use computer to do whatever it is has not yet arrived, nor has the longer antenna.

I've read bits and pieces about basically running a wire up the outside corner of the house, fastened with wood, for a taller antenna. Could it be as simple as that? Must the other end of the wire come inside and be attached to the radio?

Starting to wonder if my concentration is up to all this. Starting on night oxygen shortly which should be helpful. It all sounds a lot of work. Wish you were next door!

Thank you again.
 Quoting: Pooka


I very much encourage the construction of a j-pole from commmon copper pipe. It leads to other skills that you might not appreciate right now. You can make one out of television antenna leads, just search for it. GET YOUR LICENSE! And then join us.

I wish that I were there to help you, but you've got this! Best wishes and 73's
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My keyboard is messed up as well, I spilled something in it. It got down into the motherboard as well (no, it won't work without the motherboard).

Here is something you can try. Unplug it and remove the battery. Hold the power button down for about 15 seconds. Openit up and stand it on it's side and let it sit that way for a day or two. You want to drain any moisture out.

I got back almost full functionality after doing this. The Z, X, and spacebar are still a bit persnickety.

I'll probably have to replace the keyboard. After 17 years as a computer/IT guy, I hate working on laptops. My eyes are getting so bad those tiny screws can be hard to see.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Crunch, sorry that happened to you as well! Dollar Tree glasses can help greatly in seeing small things, I'm told. Might try that, though I understand your frustration.

Hope the last three keys begin to cooperate!
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I very much encourage the construction of a j-pole from commmon copper pipe. It leads to other skills that you might not appreciate right now. You can make one out of television antenna leads, just search for it. GET YOUR LICENSE! And then join us.

I wish that I were there to help you, but you've got this! Best wishes and 73's
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You are so kind! YOu are greatly appreciated!

Regarding the license, we debated about that, if you recall, because I would not be into confiscation - would rather learn it all but not take the test, in order to avoid confiscation just at the very time I purchased this radio for! I want and need to know what is going on in agencies and on the street after TSHTF, not to have worked hard to be ready for that only to lose the ability just when it's crucial.
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Crunch, sorry that happened to you as well! Dollar Tree glasses can help greatly in seeing small things, I'm told. Might try that, though I understand your frustration.

Hope the last three keys begin to cooperate!
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I ordered a new keyboard because this thing is driving me crazy. It has to come from China,though and will take 3-4 weeks to get here.
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I very much encourage the construction of a j-pole from commmon copper pipe. It leads to other skills that you might not appreciate right now. You can make one out of television antenna leads, just search for it. GET YOUR LICENSE! And then join us.

I wish that I were there to help you, but you've got this! Best wishes and 73's
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You are so kind! YOu are greatly appreciated!

Regarding the license, we debated about that, if you recall, because I would not be into confiscation - would rather learn it all but not take the test, in order to avoid confiscation just at the very time I purchased this radio for! I want and need to know what is going on in agencies and on the street after TSHTF, not to have worked hard to be ready for that only to lose the ability just when it's crucial.
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Against all ham lore, I will say that if this is your path I support you. At the end of days, it only matters if someone is able to send a message. I only maintain the licensing because we need people who are actively working these bands, who have an understanding of what will go wrong. Please, if you choose to be unlicensed, realize that you will have a learning curve to climb. The rest of us understand in due time.
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Congratulations on your big wins! So about these bunnies. My inbox holds only envelopes so far - no packages, no plastic-wrapped bunnies, no chicken delight. What's the hold-up? Ah's awaitin'!!

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Hmmmmm...I must have emailed it all to Crunch by mistake tomato
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I ordered a new keyboard because this thing is driving me crazy. It has to come from China,though and will take 3-4 weeks to get here.
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May I ask why you want a keyboard from China? I know next to nothing about specialty keyboards so I can only approach the question from a linguistic standpoint, which is more or less a 'specialty' of mine since I write in several languages: do you need an extended Chinese keyboard to write Chinese? I can see why, if that's what you do, you'd need one unless you want to take all day to write anything.

A friend gave me this laptop and I have to fix it no matter what, so I'm not unintentionally rubbing it in too much that he should have listened to my warnings at the start:) Computers are not an interest of his; he just buys himself a new one when he starts having problems with his own laptop. He got ripped off on Amazon with a 3rd party seller, sold as 'new' and was refurbished, been in the shop many times. No warranty or bennies left. (running the serial number on the manufacturer's site told me that much.)

It's an HP, low-end line Pavilion, maybe sold for 250. when it was new. I know Friend spent way above that, he told me so. You know what Amazon is like when you don't know your way around. It gets better: seller was in Miami, Fla. with a Spanish name, and I just bet that was no Spaniard. It does not have a separate battery compartment so I have to take off the whole back to even find it. I may have to reseat the ribbon cable, somehow. I'm having trouble with my eyes, too.

Still, this is a kind of prepping that seems plain common sense. As long as I have a way to run these machines, I have to understand them and know how to fix them. Tech 'help is not on the way.'
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Congratulations on your big wins! So about these bunnies. My inbox holds only envelopes so far - no packages, no plastic-wrapped bunnies, no chicken delight. What's the hold-up? Ah's awaitin'!!

Hmmmmm...I must have emailed it all to Crunch by mistake
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Please be so kind as to request Crunch send my packageS back so that you can resend - we're burning daylight here!!!
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I ordered a new keyboard because this thing is driving me crazy. It has to come from China,though and will take 3-4 weeks to get here.
 Quoting: Crunch62


May I ask why you want a keyboard from China?

Still, this is a kind of prepping that seems plain common sense. As long as I have a way to run these machines, I have to understand them and know how to fix them. Tech 'help is not on the way.'
 Quoting: whispering leaves


WL, I think most of us order our techie stuff from China - you-all correct me if I'm wrong. My Baofeng radios came from there, because that's where they are made. Extended antenna and cord for programming coming from same geography.

China makes the least expensive and generally most efficient electronic "stuff" - your lappy was probably made there, despite being HP. Could be wrong.

As to you fixing your own, you are so very right - "Help is NOT on the way" nor will it be for almost anything we need. We gotta do stuff we may not wish or know how to do. Thank God for online instructions and printers!! Best wishes with yours! Hope Crunch's drainage tip helps you!

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Against all ham lore, I will say that if this is your path I support you. At the end of days, it only matters if someone is able to send a message. I only maintain the licensing because we need people who are actively working these bands, who have an understanding of what will go wrong. Please, if you choose to be unlicensed, realize that you will have a learning curve to climb. The rest of us understand in due time.
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I say this because when I first brought up purchasing a HAM handheld, you or someone mentioned it could disappear with the EO covering such things.

Is there a greater reason to be licensed than not to be? I would want to help in any way I could, if that became an option. I generally grasp things a bit faster than the average, so if concentration cooperates, as soon as I grasp theory the details will become instantly clear.

I lean upon you greatly for advice due to your wisdom and experience in this subject, for which I am most grateful.

Is there something with the radios I should be learning while waiting for the cord to program them?

Would you expect the EO enforcers to be checking places such as here and other forae, and popular online sales sites, for ownership of such things? As it happens, the night I decided to buy, I clicked a set of two of everything, rather than one. If above does not obtain, I might lose or give away one set - losing it could so easily happen! Except in case of "close inspection" of course.

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Think your power will always be there? This should make you think.
Thread: Firefighters injured in Surprise explosion
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Think your power will always be there? This should make you think.
Thread: Firefighters injured in Surprise explosion
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LI, not sure of your reference between this explosion and being without power, though of course and EMP or CME will figure always in our preparations.

Always very glad to have new information here and new ideas to examine.

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There so many things that can totally disrupt your way of life. You can't be ready for all of them. You can be a bit more ready if you remain flexible. I read this thread and see so many of you trying to prep your way to having a life as we know it now. There is a very small chance of that happening.

Think of those people fleeing the turmoil in places like Venezuela, the middle east, etc. What if that happened in your area? I would say that most of those people are just common folk. They were out of options.

Another point I want to make, with tensions running high and everyone being offended it only needs a spark to become something like the Ferguson riots. What if rioting were nationwide? What if you are bugging in in a city that is on fire?

Let's say you are prepped for most scenarios. Word of a biological hazard is coming. Or there is a major environtal hazard? I guess the point I am trying to make is that you need to have prepped in the knowledge department. Know how to survive with your own two hands.

If something sent the world back to the stoneage, how long do you think your prep items will last? Knives and guns wear out. I am not saying it would be a useless endeavor to prep. I am not saying to give up on having a few weeks worth of food on hand.

There is no way of knowing from which direction the trouble will come. Be flexible. Adapt. Have an awareness of what is going on around you so you have an option ready to step up and be implemented when called for. If your gut tells you to do something, don't hesitate. You can't hear your gut in a state of shock or panic.