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Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

 
Pooka  (OP)

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After Katrina, I placed ads on CL in numerous locales offering a place to stay (free) for a displaced family. At the time, I had a decent RV set up out back with room for 4 or 5 people.

I even offered to provide tools for a tradesman who had lost his stuff in Katrina. I have lots of tools to spare. I could have set up a plumber, electrician, mechanic, etc. with at least enough to get started in a new job up here.

I didn't receive a single response.
 Quoting: Crunch62


You would think somebody would have jumped on that in a heartbeat! What an opportunity! And it would have gotten them out of hurricane country permanently! Perhaps that was the issue - that nobody wanted to move that far from "home" or perhaps the right people didn't have access to computers or the internet.

I offered space for a woman and a dog, with no takers, too, but that's not the same as a whole family and setting a man up with the tools to work his trade!!!

Bless you for what you did! God counts what's in our hearts, not the results - you get the blessing for what you tried to do!
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Do you ever deal with New Egg? I have.

Does Ebay provide the same protections that Amazon does? Yes. And using PP doubles the guarantee. You cannot lose, as long as you file the complaint within the time line. eBay sellers are sanctioned heavily if their feedback is not perfect, so they really, really work to satisfy the customer. Do you have a favorite seller to recommend? Works the same with every seller. There are a lot of search parameters on the left side of the screen after you have entered the name of whatever you are looking for. Just select as you wish from those parameters. The particular seller doesn't matter - they all fall under the same controls.

I've tried to buy discount software that turned out to be in another country and either got a stolen key or didn't get anything at all. The bank helps out for small amounts, once or twice a year, if I lose my money but they get mad at me if it happens too often, so I have to stick to 'approved stores' now, at least until I learn who the best sellers are.:)
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Was this on eBay? Never heard of having to go to your bank to "fix it". eBay and PP will "fix it" themselves, and fast!
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hf This thread is awesome! You guys are amazing! hugs


hi Hello!
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Hiya Rewind!! Good to see you! 1Hello
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Decent channel all around...


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"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
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Decent channel all around...


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big fan of the channel, I agree hf
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Decent channel all around...


 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


Thank you, Lance! Great information to have! I was just thinking today how much I wish I could have a few chickens here, just for the eggs and the occasional chicken stew.

Are you on IRC? I am, always.
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I started thinking Ishould have offered him a ride back to his car. Then again, maybe not.I know its not SHTF, but what doyouthink?
 Quoting: Crunch62


I think you were wise in not doing so. We cannot be too careful. The moccasins seem odd with the dress shirt and pants, but not terribly dangerous. Just odd.

Even if nothing were waiting at his car, it was good practice to see what decision you would make. I would hope to make the same one, though knowing me I'd jump right up being as helpful as I could. Phooey on that!

You did reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal good, Crunch!

One thing I want to ask - did you have a clear view behind him for some distance? My main concern would not have been was there a group at the car, but more was there a group in the trees, just waiting to see if you were armed, or if anyone else came out.
 Quoting: Pooka


He did make a comment that he probably hadn't made the best choice in footwear for walking down a road.

Good view behind him. Remember, this is a floodplain (i.e., flat), so not much chance of a group 'in the trees' LOL.

Some oak and eucalyptus trees, but really nothing for a group to hide behind. Other than homes and barns, visibility is miles and miles
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hf This thread is awesome! You guys are amazing! hugs


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Was this on eBay? Never heard of having to go to your bank to "fix it". eBay and PP will "fix it" themselves, and fast!


No, it was not on Ebay. I haven't bought anything from Ebay since 2005, when I ordered a phone, it wasn't at all as advertised so I sent it back to the seller, I paid all postage, and never heard from him again. I never got my money back and Ebay blew me off. I never shopped there again.

I dropped Paypal years ago when they dropped a few of my favorite nationalist forums and small businesses, but I never did like the idea of letting them have discretionary access to my accounts. Once in a while, they'd make a mistake and pull out double or triple and then it took me days talking to foreigners to fix the problem; meanwhile my checks would bounce.

On the other hand, I've had the same bank for decades and find them much easier to deal with. Maybe I'm just more comfortable keeping the number of 'large entities' I'm willing to trust at a minimum; it's easier to keep track.
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My dear, I would invite you here, if you had means and desire, to help you, to share prepping, for neither of us to be alone in the situation that may arise. I'm so sorry you are caught in this unfortunate time, and are having to reinvent your life. I went through something similar and was in a horrible position for about four years before life began to make sense again. Wishing for you it will settle soon and turn the other direction.

Thank you Pooka. I have long desired to head west. I seriously considered it. A lot of doors have slammed shut for me and in the end, I know I belong here for now. Knowing the flora and fauna here, I would be uneducated in your climate.

This does indeed bring up something that has been on my mind. Some time ago I made a thread that I thought had legs to stand on but the individualist mentallity has been at work awhile. The gas can story above has points to make also. The age we live in, one cannot trust anyone. We cannot be good samaritans now. It may cost us our lives.

Getting back to my point, it would enable more people to have a better chance of surviving if several preppers could join forces. But as things are, someone will offend someone else and you know the rest. While I was in a position to prep I hung onto some things knowing full well I wouldn't have need of but someone else would. It may sound silly but that is the place life has taken my heart to. On the gas can, those could well be the people who could be in a position to help just as you could help them post SHTF. Then again, when it comes to food and surviving, well, you all know the horrors. It is a soul wracking time to be alive. Having struggled to get through a catastrophic time in life, people in general have saddened my heart. That hasn't dampened my caring in the least though.

So what do ya do? The only thing I know, keep on keeping on. Dropping truth bombs. Do a kindness now and then that let people know good folks haven't vanished. Distant, but here. Trusting my instincts to keep me from trouble with a silent wish going out to remain safe.
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This thread is awesome! You guys are amazing!

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Was this on eBay? Never heard of having to go to your bank to "fix it". eBay and PP will "fix it" themselves, and fast!
 Quoting: whispering leaves


No, it was not on Ebay. I haven't bought anything from Ebay since 2005, when I ordered a phone, it wasn't at all as advertised so I sent it back to the seller, I paid all postage, and never heard from him again. I never got my money back and Ebay blew me off. I never shopped there again.

I dropped Paypal years ago when they dropped a few of my favorite nationalist forums and small businesses, but I never did like the idea of letting them have discretionary access to my accounts. Once in a while, they'd make a mistake and pull out double or triple and then it took me days talking to foreigners to fix the problem; meanwhile my checks would bounce.

On the other hand, I've had the same bank for decades and find them much easier to deal with. Maybe I'm just more comfortable keeping the number of 'large entities' I'm willing to trust at a minimum; it's easier to keep track.


Very odd that eBay didn't back you. Did you file a claim?

Regarding PP, I have a separate bank account labeled PayPal and use it only for that purpose, for the very reason you stated - can't have them make a mistake in my main account with which I pay bills, etc. However, they have never made a mistake in all my years of doing business with them. I connected them to the PP account, so they can take the money for a purchase from there. I move that amount of money to that account just before I hit Pay.

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He did make a comment that he probably hadn't made the best choice in footwear for walking down a road.

Good view behind him. Remember, this is a floodplain (i.e., flat), so not much chance of a group 'in the trees' LOL. Some oak and eucalyptus trees, but really nothing for a group to hide behind. Other than homes and barns, visibility is miles and miles
 Quoting: Crunch62


You are ideally situated in so many ways! Love that you are able to see so far. That's an issue I have - buildings and such so I cannot see anyone coming. Miss my country home so much! That's why I plan on "driveway alarms" around my specific place so I know when somebody is out of bounds.

I'm just glad for your situation in so many ways! Not to say envious, of course. :)

If that naughty MC ever sends me a few hundred in Easter bunnies, I might ask the bunnies to carry me to your place. I could hide out there and help you with things. If the bunnies are willing, of course, and if MC ever gets a move on!
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hf This thread is awesome! You guys are amazing! hugs


hi Hello!
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we love you too hf
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Thank you! flower
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Shucks - too soon to give you green again! But in my head you are getting more. :)
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Thank you Pooka. I have long desired to head west. I seriously considered it. A lot of doors have slammed shut for me and in the end, I know I belong here for now. Knowing the flora and fauna here, I would be uneducated in your climate.

This does indeed bring up something that has been on my mind. Some time ago I made a thread that I thought had legs to stand on but the individualist mentallity has been at work awhile. The gas can story above has points to make also. The age we live in, one cannot trust anyone. We cannot be good samaritans now. It may cost us our lives.

Getting back to my point, it would enable more people to have a better chance of surviving if several preppers could join forces. But as things are, someone will offend someone else and you know the rest. While I was in a position to prep I hung onto some things knowing full well I wouldn't have need of but someone else would. It may sound silly but that is the place life has taken my heart to. On the gas can, those could well be the people who could be in a position to help just as you could help them post SHTF. Then again, when it comes to food and surviving, well, you all know the horrors. It is a soul wracking time to be alive. Having struggled to get through a catastrophic time in life, people in general have saddened my heart. That hasn't dampened my caring in the least though.

So what do ya do? The only thing I know, keep on keeping on. Dropping truth bombs. Do a kindness now and then that let people know good folks haven't vanished. Distant, but here. Trusting my instincts to keep me from trouble with a silent wish going out to remain safe.
 Quoting: LookingInward


Joining forces is ideal, for protection and for ongoing projects, but the trust issue is the issue, for sure. I would invite you, but with the hope that we had some time before SHTF, to get to know each other, so that if it wouldn't work out we'd have time to find you a place you would prefer.

I have some things here that are for other people, and have had for some time, just to help, but will be exceedingly circumspect as to whom I give it and the means of transfer. I still think not opening the door is best. Many pages ago in a scenario someone posed, I said I might speak to someone through the door, but if I agreed to barter or give something, I would suddenly toss it out a window, very unexpectedly, rather than open the door. Layers of thought, layers of protection.

I'm sorry you are having such a time of it, and I can relate. Just one step at a time, it will come right again.

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Pooka, you talked about scenarios a while back.

Here is one I experienced a few days ago.

I was out mowing the grass in front of my place. About 225' feet of frontage, and I like to keep it short this time of year because it grows fast and tall and poses a fire danger in the summer.

A guy comes walking down the road carrying a gas can. He started waving at me, so Ishut down the mower and got off. I
was annoyed. He walked up to me, he was a youngish guy wearing a dress shirt and pants...and moccasins.

He said he was from a mountain community about 20 miles up the road and had run out of gas heading to town for his former mother in law's funeral. He asked if I had any gas he could buy.

I told him,this isn't the place you want to come to with your guage on 'E'. He told me that the only store/gas station up there hadburned down a few months ago, so getting gas or groceries equates to a 30mile trip.

I know this to be true,as I have a friend that lives up that way and he had told me aboutthe store fire.

Judging by the way he was dressed, I figured he was legit. I told him I had some fuel and put aa couple of gallons in his can. He gave me $10 and headed back up the road.
bout an hourafter he left, I started thinking Ishould have offered him a ride back to his car.

Then again, maybe not.I know its not SHTF, but what doyouthink?


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One day I was getting ready to leave for work and I spotted someone with a motorcycle at the end of my driveway. I went down and asked if he was okay and he replied that he was just out of gas. Of course, this was something that I could rectify so I asked him to wait until I came back. I got the can that I use for my lawnmower and carried it back... only then did I see the make of the motorcycle - a Ducati. My thought was "that machine ain't used to the swill that I feed my lawn mower." In an unsaid agreement, the person only accepted maybe half a gallon.
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One day I was getting ready to leave for work and I spotted someone with a motorcycle at the end of my driveway. I went down and asked if he was okay and he replied that he was just out of gas. Of course, this was something that I could rectify so I asked him to wait until I came back. I got the can that I use for my lawnmower and carried it back... only then did I see the make of the motorcycle - a Ducati. My thought was "that machine ain't used to the swill that I feed my lawn mower." In an unsaid agreement, the person only accepted maybe half a gallon.
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A Ducati no less! Respect!!
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Hey, if I can help a fellow human being out I don't look at the consumer society branding. I just solve problems. That's not always to my benefit but I do love solving problems.
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Hey, if I can help a fellow human being out I don't look at the consumer society branding. I just solve problems. That's not always to my benefit but I do love solving problems.
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get an account and call yourself "The Riddler" hf
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Hey, if I can help a fellow human being out I don't look at the consumer society branding. I just solve problems. That's not always to my benefit but I do love solving problems.
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Have to agree, I do, as well. And it would/will hurt me not to provide what people have asked for. I give away things all the time - items that I need or want myself, but I always think the other person's need must be greater than my own. Not to do so after SHTF is purely self-protection. I don't want interactions with people because there is no way to be certain their intentions are not nefarious and my kindness might be the very source by which they overtake me and mine.
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Hey, if I can help a fellow human being out I don't look at the consumer society branding. I just solve problems. That's not always to my benefit but I do love solving problems.
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get an account and call yourself "The Riddler" hf
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I have a problem that I'm going to solve and send you the solution. You'll know it when you see it. I won't call myself "The Riddler" but instead I will call myself something from Babylon 5. Expect me when you see me.
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Hey, if I can help a fellow human being out I don't look at the consumer society branding. I just solve problems. That's not always to my benefit but I do love solving problems.
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get an account and call yourself "The Riddler" hf
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I have a problem that I'm going to solve and send you the solution. You'll know it when you see it. I won't call myself "The Riddler" but instead I will call myself something from Babylon 5. Expect me when you see me.
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B5 will return, prepare hf
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Have to agree, I do, as well. And it would/will hurt me not to provide what people have asked for. I give away things all the time - items that I need or want myself, but I always think the other person's need must be greater than my own. Not to do so after SHTF is purely self-protection. I don't want interactions with people because there is no way to be certain their intentions are not nefarious and my kindness might be the very source by which they overtake me and mine.
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In the beginning I imagine there will be plenty of examples of persons just wanting to get a little ways down the road. Maybe a meal and some water. All of these I stand ready to accomodate, after all they are headed somewhere else.

But then I have to consider the welfare of those around me and my heart sinks. Do I plan on carrying my neighbors? If I cannot, when do I say no? What is my response when their desperation leads them to some act against my own?
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I have a problem that I'm going to solve and send you the solution. You'll know it when you see it. I won't call myself "The Riddler" but instead I will call myself something from Babylon 5. Expect me when you see me.
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Exciting that you will have a blue name no matter what it is! Very happy about this!
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B5 will return, prepare hf
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B5?
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Dear God. There is no good solution to this one, I am afraid. It's not likely to suddenly turn up in a safe place.

Thank you for this find, ugly though it is.

We need to turn up our plans, our preparations, our intentions, our will, and our knowledge. Whatever is needed in our minds must already be there when it hits, except what we learn while doing - those will be the hardest lessons of all.
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B5 will return, prepare hf
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B5?
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OMG, only the finest sci-fi series to come out in the 90's! It is a look at good versus chaos, where you stand in that conflict and what price you will pay to maintain your personal integrity. Star Trek and Star Wars can only take a back seat to the issues that this series brougth. Shoot, no one ever talked about taking a leak until B5 came along.
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B5 will return, prepare hf
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B5?
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OMG, only the finest sci-fi series to come out in the 90's! It is a look at good versus chaos, where you stand in that conflict and what price you will pay to maintain your personal integrity. Star Trek and Star Wars can only take a back seat to the issues that this series brougth. Shoot, no one ever talked about taking a leak until B5 came along.
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epic series hf
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One can only hope it was some specialized forces that went in to get it just so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.