Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,385 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 776,701
Pageviews Today: 1,319,847Threads Today: 660Posts Today: 11,171
07:51 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

 
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 07:38 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
I have to test a Coleman camp stove but it has the butane bottles, got a case. I just want to test it, I want to make sure it works and I have everything. My worst fear is not having everything for something to work. Like a Flashlight without batteries or an extra bulb for the older ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


Is it the one-burner (Iwatani style)?

I just gotone as well, and a case of butane. I tested it, works great!
 Quoting: Crunch62


still in the box, I will look at the specific model this week

it is a two-burner Amazon.com: Coleman Classic Propane Stove: Sports & Outdoors

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


That one is propane, not butane. Different canisters.
 Quoting: Crunch62


yep, interesting to see and learn about the other system, good video.

Since we are on the subject, this is the camp tent stove I am looking at [link to www.silverfire.us (secure)]
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 07:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Crunch, your post of that link scared me - stating a pan must be ten inches diameter or less for our butane stoves - so I had to go measure ye olde tea kettle. Whew! Eight and one half inches! We're golden!
 Quoting: Pooka


Yeah, a tea kettle or percolator wouldn't be a problem.

I don't think would use anything larger than an 8" skillet or small saucepan on it, though.

We are exclusively cast iron skillets here. Everything from 4" to 14". The bigger ones don't get used much since the kids are grown and gone.
What the Hell?...
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 07:51 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
That one is propane, not butane. Different canisters.
 Quoting: Anonymous JD

yep, interesting to see and learn about the other system, good video.

Since we are on the subject, this is the camp tent stove I am looking at [link to www.silverfire.us (secure)]


Let's try to cut away as much of repetitive posts as possible in order not to present them over and over - one or two sentences, if any, are enough to explain the reason for the response. hf

This is a lovely stove! You plan on carrying it with your backpack? What if your vehicle no longer runs or no fuel can be found for it? What do you do with your beautiful new stove?
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 07:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Since we are on the subject, this is the camp tent stove I am looking at [link to www.silverfire.us (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


Wow. NICE stove. It even heats water.

I hope its a big tent.
What the Hell?...
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 07:54 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Since we are on the subject, this is the camp tent stove I am looking at [link to www.silverfire.us (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


Wow. NICE stove. It even heats water.

I hope its a big tent.
 Quoting: Crunch62


my retirement project would be one of these tents and that stove

Canvas Tents | 100% Cotton Canvas | Bell Tents | Tipi Tents | CanvasCamp [link to www.canvascamp.com (secure)]
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 07:54 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Yeah, a tea kettle or percolator wouldn't be a problem. I don't think would use anything larger than an 8" skillet or small saucepan on it, though. We are exclusively cast iron skillets here. Everything from 4" to 14". The bigger ones don't get used much since the kids are grown and gone.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I had to get rid of all my cast iron as I couldn't hold it well any more. Had all manner of things which I sometimes still miss, but that's how life goes sometimes.

I read all of the "accidents" on that site, and only one seemed to be even partially the fault of the stove - the butane bottle had a defect, and the stove did not release it properly. Wonder if those stove defects have been repaired or if there is something we should do to fix them.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77501891
United States
04/21/2019 07:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Thank you for all that - holy smoke what a job! Not sure I will get to that!

No, there were other questions, one specifically regarding your response about getting a license, to do or not to do and some possible scenarios.

I don't remember the other question but feel sure there was one.

Are you ready to register a name and be upgraded?
 Quoting: Pooka


Well, I would encourage you to get licensed because then you can go to your local amateur radio club and find an "Elmer" (an experienced operator who will show you the ropes). Most groups are very interested in helping anyone who shows interest. Just don't go waving your shiny new radio without being licensed, they frown on that :)

That being said, it is permissible in the event of an emergency to transmit on any frequency, at any power level, that you think someone might be listening on without any licensing. If we haven't fallen into a society that is WROL, you will be asked for an accounting after everything has been sorted.

If the world has been packaged in a handbasket and sent off in the mail to Hades then having a license is of little consideration.

The reason that I encourage getting a license is the same that you encouraged me to fire up my Coleman stove - You get to use your equipment. You get to go out and meet people who have climbed the same learning curve that you're going through and they will help you out. Most clubs have events through the year that you can volunteer for and get out doing real work in the the real world with your equipment. In one event I got put in a hole where there wasn't any cell phone reception, I was the only way to get a signal out to the event organizers. I had that 2m radio for a few years but the only way that I knew for certain that it would do the job was because I got licensed and became active with a group.

I'll pull the trigger on the blue name here in a few days.
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 07:56 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Well, I would encourage you to get licensed because then you can go to your local amateur radio club and find an "Elmer" (an experienced operator who will show you the ropes). Most groups are very interested in helping anyone who shows interest. Just don't go waving your shiny new radio without being licensed, they frown on that :)

That being said, it is permissible in the event of an emergency to transmit on any frequency, at any power level, that you think someone might be listening on without any licensing. If we haven't fallen into a society that is WROL, you will be asked for an accounting after everything has been sorted.

If the world has been packaged in a handbasket and sent off in the mail to Hades then having a license is of little consideration.

The reason that I encourage getting a license is the same that you encouraged me to fire up my Coleman stove - You get to use your equipment. You get to go out and meet people who have climbed the same learning curve that you're going through and they will help you out. Most clubs have events through the year that you can volunteer for and get out doing real work in the the real world with your equipment. In one event I got put in a hole where there wasn't any cell phone reception, I was the only way to get a signal out to the event organizers. I had that 2m radio for a few years but the only way that I knew for certain that it would do the job was because I got licensed and became active with a group.

I'll pull the trigger on the blue name here in a few days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77501891


blues names are not that bad, welcome aboard hf
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 07:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
my retirement project would be one of these tents and that stove

Canvas Tents | 100% Cotton Canvas | Bell Tents | Tipi Tents | CanvasCamp [link to www.canvascamp.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


I used to have a gov surplus 'GP Small' tent. Similar to that Sibley 400 style. It even had a vent for a stovepipe.

I don't know what ever happened to it. Borrowed by a relative, maybe.
What the Hell?...
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 08:03 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
my retirement project would be one of these tents and that stove

Canvas Tents | 100% Cotton Canvas | Bell Tents | Tipi Tents | CanvasCamp [link to www.canvascamp.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


I used to have a gov surplus 'GP Small' tent. Similar to that Sibley 400 style. It even had a vent for a stovepipe.

I don't know what ever happened to it. Borrowed by a relative, maybe.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I also look at military tents, the only I like is this one and would love to have one, almost did too but I canceled the order and now they are out all the time, was a couple years ago, wish I did get it all the time now.

Crew tent, 10'x10' winterized [link to armytents.com (secure)]
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 08:07 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
I'll pull the trigger on the blue name here in a few days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77501891


blues names are not that bad, welcome aboard hf
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


JD, see how to cut everything you are not responding to and only leaving the sentence you answer?
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 08:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
I read all of the "accidents" on that site, and only one seemed to be even partially the fault of the stove - the butane bottle had a defect, and the stove did not release it properly. Wonder if those stove defects have been repaired or if there is something we should do to fix them.
 Quoting: Pooka


That may have been a one in a million scenario. Bad canister and a bad stove. I don't know if there is anything someone could do to prevent it.
What the Hell?...
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 08:09 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
JD, see how to cut everything you are not responding to and only leaving the sentence you answer?
 Quoting: Pooka


yes maam hf
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 08:11 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
That one is propane, not butane. Different canisters.
 Quoting: Crunch62


forgot to add, I want the propane tank attachment

for reference but I think its right

5-Ft. High-Pressure Propane Hose and Adaptor | Coleman [link to www.coleman.com (secure)]
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 08:12 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Well, I would encourage you to get licensed because then you can go to your local amateur radio club and find an "Elmer" (an experienced operator who will show you the ropes). Most groups are very interested in helping anyone who shows interest. Just don't go waving your shiny new radio without being licensed, they frown on that :)

That being said, it is permissible in the event of an emergency to transmit on any frequency, at any power level, that you think someone might be listening on without any licensing. If we haven't fallen into a society that is WROL, you will be asked for an accounting after everything has been sorted.

If the world has been packaged in a handbasket and sent off in the mail to Hades then having a license is of little consideration.

The reason that I encourage getting a license is the same that you encouraged me to fire up my Coleman stove - You get to use your equipment. You get to go out and meet people who have climbed the same learning curve that you're going through and they will help you out. Most clubs have events through the year that you can volunteer for and get out doing real work in the the real world with your equipment. In one event I got put in a hole where there wasn't any cell phone reception, I was the only way to get a signal out to the event organizers. I had that 2m radio for a few years but the only way that I knew for certain that it would do the job was because I got licensed and became active with a group.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77501891


Now I understand - however, with physical limitations I would not be attending meetings or visiting a group on a regular basis. I would love to help out wherever possible by all means - but would have to do so from my vehicle, or very near it.

So if I were to attend a meeting, the shiny new radio should not go with me? I can see what comes next - "We recommend newcomers to buy . . . . for these reasons . . ." and then I do something not advised and turn up with a Baofeng and my name is already mud. LOL So obviously if I won't take the advice of "those who know" I must not be serious about HAM radio and not worth putting time into.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 08:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
forgot to add, I want the propane tank attachment

for reference but I think its right

5-Ft. High-Pressure Propane Hose and Adaptor | Coleman [link to www.coleman.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous JD


Yes, that will allow you to run it from a BBQ tank or larger.

EDIT> which brings up a scenario. On the road after SHTF. You come across an abandoned ruralhome. Big propane tank in the yard. Check the gauge, its half full. With thathose, you can hook up and cook dinner!

Remember, the pointy end (POL) is left-hand thread.

Last Edited by Crunch62 on 04/21/2019 08:28 PM
What the Hell?...
Mental Case

User ID: 77581221
United States
04/21/2019 08:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Waiting for MC to join us, he had the whole family over.

--------

Nope, my sis had the whole family over for dinner. Lamb, ham, chickeny rice, augrauten potatoes, veggies, layered salad, carrot cake, chocolate cake, caramel cake, red velvet cake, orange cake, lemon cake, jelly beans & chocolates...BOY AM I FULL!

My brother brought me a brand new MAGA cap banana2 And I paid him back the $100 I owed him.

Now I am full & sluggish & dull...UGH!

I feel like Mr. Creosote on "The Meaning of Life".
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 08:59 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Waiting for MC to join us, he had the whole family over.

--------

Nope, my sis had the whole family over for dinner. Lamb, ham, chickeny rice, augrauten potatoes, veggies, layered salad, carrot cake, chocolate cake, caramel cake, red velvet cake, orange cake, lemon cake, jelly beans & chocolates...BOY AM I FULL!

My brother brought me a brand new MAGA cap banana2 And I paid him back the $100 I owed him.

Now I am full & sluggish & dull...UGH!

I feel like Mr. Creosote on "The Meaning of Life".
 Quoting: Mental Case


iamwith me too, although my fullness is leaving me

sounds like you had a great day too hf

Had Ham, Pineapple slices from the baked ham, Candied Yams, Mash Potatoes, Peas, Cream Corn, Rolls, Cranberry and Cole Slaw.
Mental Case

User ID: 77581221
United States
04/21/2019 09:06 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
It was a good time!

My sis was sad to see us leaving & I said "I think you'd be happy, I'm ready for a nap so you must be too".

She was...she did days worth of cleaning & baking to get it all ready...it was nice of her to host it.
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77501891
United States
04/21/2019 09:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Now I understand - however, with physical limitations I would not be attending meetings or visiting a group on a regular basis. I would love to help out wherever possible by all means - but would have to do so from my vehicle, or very near it.

So if I were to attend a meeting, the shiny new radio should not go with me? I can see what comes next - "We recommend newcomers to buy . . . . for these reasons . . ." and then I do something not advised and turn up with a Baofeng and my name is already mud. LOL So obviously if I won't take the advice of "those who know" I must not be serious about HAM radio and not worth putting time into.
 Quoting: Pooka


No, do not let them know that you are capable of transmitting. It isn't illegal for an unlicensed person to have a transmitter, hams are just very jealous of the privileges that they have and take great pleasure in tracking down people that misuse them.

But if you just walked in and expressed an interest, that would be a whole different reaction! Yes, Baofengs usually are viewed as undesirable but the truth is that I've seen plenty of hams at a meeting with Baofengs sitting on the table in front of them. Any group that would judge you for using one is a group that is probably drowning in it's own crap.

So, let's turn to some suggestions that you can do with your radio while being completely within the letter of the law.

1. Charge it, read the manual. Know what button to push to make it transmit and don't touch it until you're licensed. An accidental push won't bring the wolves to your door, just be mindful.

2. Listen to 146.52 and 446.00 Mhz, these are the national calling frequencies for the 2m and 70cm bands. You might not hear much because most of the traffic occurs on the local repeaters.

3.Find out what the frequency of your local repeaters are and tune in. [link to www.repeaterbook.com (secure)]
You'll notice a bunch of information like offsets and tones, since you are just listening you don't need to worry about this right now, just dial the frequency. You'll be able to catch more conversations during the morning and evening commutes and if you find the website of your local radio club they will have the days and times of the local nets.

4. Tune to 144.390 Mhz and listen. You'll probably start hearing buzzes, this is APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System). Hams set up automatic stations that report location, weather and other information. After Fukushima there was an option added to report radiation levels. You can see a global map of what these stations are reporting here: [link to aprs.fi (secure)]

5. If you are up for a challenge go to [link to heavens-above.com (secure)] and enter your location, then under "10 day predictions for satellites of special interest" click ISS and choose all passes. The International Space Station has an amateur radio repeater, voice is 145.80 and packet is 145.825 and 437.550. You should be able to pick up these signals with just the rubber duck stock antenna. By the way hams have all kinds of satellites that they use to communicate with!

That's just a quick list.
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 09:14 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
It was a good time!

My sis was sad to see us leaving & I said "I think you'd be happy, I'm ready for a nap so you must be too".

She was...she did days worth of cleaning & baking to get it all ready...it was nice of her to host it.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I delivered some food and then made calls to family further away who I do not see. My part of the family moved south and the rest are still up north.

My Uncle I talked to for an hour, I know he was alone and I might of been the only one who actually called and talked.
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 09:22 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
No, do not let them know that you are capable of transmitting. It isn't illegal for an unlicensed person to have a transmitter, hams are just very jealous of the privileges that they have and take great pleasure in tracking down people that misuse them.

But if you just walked in and expressed an interest, that would be a whole different reaction! Yes, Baofengs usually are viewed as undesirable but the truth is that I've seen plenty of hams at a meeting with Baofengs sitting on the table in front of them. Any group that would judge you for using one is a group that is probably drowning in it's own crap.

So, let's turn to some suggestions that you can do with your radio while being completely within the letter of the law.

1. Charge it, read the manual. Know what button to push to make it transmit and don't touch it until you're licensed. An accidental push won't bring the wolves to your door, just be mindful.

2. Listen to 146.52 and 446.00 Mhz, these are the national calling frequencies for the 2m and 70cm bands. You might not hear much because most of the traffic occurs on the local repeaters.

3.Find out what the frequency of your local repeaters are and tune in. [link to www.repeaterbook.com (secure)]
You'll notice a bunch of information like offsets and tones, since you are just listening you don't need to worry about this right now, just dial the frequency. You'll be able to catch more conversations during the morning and evening commutes and if you find the website of your local radio club they will have the days and times of the local nets.

4. Tune to 144.390 Mhz and listen. You'll probably start hearing buzzes, this is APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System). Hams set up automatic stations that report location, weather and other information. After Fukushima there was an option added to report radiation levels. You can see a global map of what these stations are reporting here: [link to aprs.fi (secure)]

5. If you are up for a challenge go to [link to heavens-above.com (secure)] and enter your location, then under "10 day predictions for satellites of special interest" click ISS and choose all passes. The International Space Station has an amateur radio repeater, voice is 145.80 and packet is 145.825 and 437.550. You should be able to pick up these signals with just the rubber duck stock antenna. By the way hams have all kinds of satellites that they use to communicate with!

That's just a quick list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77501891


Thank you so much! Duly copied and saved! You obviously know your stuff and I'm thrilled we will be able to communicate by the time the proper antenna and the radio-to-computer cable arrive!

Thank you very much for talking a newbie through the baby steps! You are very kind.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 09:43 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
77501891, one of the questions I was mumbling to myself that may not have made it to a post - supposing the time comes when coms are collected. Will they be checking such places as this forum, Amazon, eBay, etc? Or, if I have only one radio, that's all I have?

I actually hit the button and bought a set, but I can surely lose one in a hurry! After it's programmed, of course. LOL Would that be a wise idea?

Regarding Baofengs being seen as the poor redheaded stepchild, a great many people I have seen online are using them, from militia to survivalist teachers and on. They can't be totally bad! I had researched the brand in the past and that's why it was on my mind.

I have no intention of broadcasting without a license. Not sure how much I will broadcast after having a license - the purpose of the radio is to be able to hear what is going on, primarily. Emergency services, LE, nat'l guard, martial law enforcers, and all like that. Not ever ever to communicate with them, only to listen. I might even glue a bead on the Send button, just out of an abundance of caution. However, I do understand it is acceptable to broadcast a plea for assistance in case of emergency.

I really enjoy that you were the only person in position to cover communications during that exercise - great job!!! Must have been a great deal of fun, as well as good experience.

Last Edited by Pooka on 04/21/2019 10:53 PM
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 10:54 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Crunch, how's your back doing? Relaxing yet? Or gone to bed?

I suspect our cooks of the day and big eaters have passed out for the night.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!
Mental Case

User ID: 77581526
United States
04/21/2019 11:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
My Uncle I talked to for an hour, I know he was alone and I might of been the only one who actually called and talked.

---------

That was nice of you JD.

I mentioned before that my nephew said he was comming & bringing the kids...that's why my sis asked me to make the chickeny-rice.

Well, he didn't show.

He's done that several times & I have defended him up 'till now...that is just WRONG to call and say you're comming and then pull a no-show.

There was so much left over food...everybody was taking huge amounts home with them.
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
Anonymous JD

User ID: 74909976
United States
04/21/2019 11:30 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
My Uncle I talked to for an hour, I know he was alone and I might of been the only one who actually called and talked.

---------

That was nice of you JD.

I mentioned before that my nephew said he was comming & bringing the kids...that's why my sis asked me to make the chickeny-rice.

Well, he didn't show.

He's done that several times & I have defended him up 'till now...that is just WRONG to call and say you're comming and then pull a no-show.

There was so much left over food...everybody was taking huge amounts home with them.
 Quoting: Mental Case


so sorry that happened, that is awful, I know it happens though and you just have to carry on, glad you still had a great time today
Mental Case

User ID: 77581526
United States
04/21/2019 11:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
so sorry that happened, that is awful, I know it happens though and you just have to carry on, glad you still had a great time today

----------

Ya know what's a real shame? He could most use the leftovers.

There was enough food left over to feed him & his kids for a week...and that was AFTER we all ate. And we would have been happy to let him take it all.

Oh well...sucks to be him.
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
Mental Case

User ID: 77581526
United States
04/21/2019 11:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
And let me just say...ham and augraten potatoes together are a match made in heaven banana2
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
Crunch62

User ID: 6446237
United States
04/21/2019 11:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Crunch, how's your back doing? Relaxing yet? Or gone to bed?

 Quoting: Pooka


Back is better. I'll be crashing soon. Heading to walmart at 5:30 AM.
What the Hell?...
Pooka  (OP)

User ID: 36721404
United States
04/21/2019 11:59 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

Well, he didn't show.

That's both rude and disrespectful and I would not invite him again, were I your sister. He is deliberately being mean, thoughtless, and punishing someone, in his mind. That would by far be the end of it for me. Shame on him. Toss some of the extra food in an email and I'll help you make it disappear.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign my reds!