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Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

 
Mental Case

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Another thing we should keep in mind is space.

Many people don't have alot of it (think studio apt).

You could easily store food and water for a week and not take up a third of a closet.

Two 7 gallon water containers.

Dry pasta, co co wheats, salt, sugar, chicken bullion cubes, peanutbutter and crackers.
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I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour
 Quoting: Jake


That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out?
 Quoting: Pooka


Storing ground flour is almost impossible, it goes rancid so quickly (less than a month). Whole wheat can be stored in a 5 gallon bucket for years if it is nitrogen packed and sealed.

To use the wheat, it can be soaked in water, then "ground" easily in a blender for bread, pancake, cracker making. This system obviates the need for yeast when you get the hang of it.

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That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out?

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You are not going to like this :)

Bugs don't get into your flour.

The eggs are already in there and they hatch! :D

I know you didn't want to know that...but it's true.

You wrap the bag of flour in a big plastic bag and put it in the freezer for 3 days (killing all the bug eggs).

Then take it out of the freezer and leave it in the big plastic bag for a day...any condensation forms on the outside of the plastic bag so your flour doesn't end up to be a solid brick.

After a day you can take it out of the big plastic bag.
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Nice! Maybe a bag of beans, too? Rice and beans together make a complete protein.

On a video earlier they pointed out how easy to make tortillas with a little flour and oil.
 Quoting: Pooka


I think I paid $12 for 80 lb bags of Pizza or bread flour
 Quoting: Jake


That's an incredible price! How did you store it to keep bugs out?
 Quoting: Pooka


I get giant ziploc vacuum bags on the internet
 Quoting: Jake


If you add a few bay leaves to a bag, it will keep the bugs out.
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Another thing we should keep in mind is space.

Many people don't have alot of it (think studio apt).

You could easily store food and water for a week and not take up a third of a closet.

Two 7 gallon water containers.

Dry pasta, co co wheats, salt, sugar, chicken bullion cubes, peanutbutter and crackers.
 Quoting: Mental Case


You are correct, Mental - some of us have very little space and that makes a big difference.

Those with vehicles but small apartments might consider the car as part of your storage. Lots will fit in most trunks, around the spare and the jack and tools and whatever.

I always keep a case of water in my car, plus some other goodies, in case of a dry flagger in summer heat, or for my dogs, for me if stuck somewhere.
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
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Storing ground flour is almost impossible, it goes rancid so quickly (less than a month). Whole wheat can be stored in a 5 gallon bucket for years if it is nitrogen packed and sealed.

To use the wheat, it can be soaked in water, then "ground" easily in a blender for bread, pancake, cracker making. This system obviates the need for yeast when you get the hang of it.

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 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Bull shiet , you can't store flower less then a month

Glass Jars my flower lasts over a year maybe longer who knows
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


I'm a baker, and super picky. However, I remember my mom having flour around forever. Maybe you are right... emergency usage anyway, right?
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thread kitty1
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Welcome here, aliasx! Please stay and help - you have great ideas!

Wyatte will be along directly - said he had a little work to do.
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
 Quoting: Mental Case


I asked about that, too, on the first page, I think, because someone mentioned it as working well for MREs. No idea if it is available to us.
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There's a chemical mixture that is to mixed together that produces a strong exothermic reaction. Not exactly enough to severely burn a human, but enough to quickly heat up a MRE's contents

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Any idea if those are available to the public?
 Quoting: Mental Case


Yes. Most MRE's that you can buy on Amazon or wherever can be purchased with the "Flameless Ration Heater".
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Storing ground flour is almost impossible, it goes rancid so quickly (less than a month). Whole wheat can be stored in a 5 gallon bucket for years if it is nitrogen packed and sealed.

To use the wheat, it can be soaked in water, then "ground" easily in a blender for bread, pancake, cracker making. This system obviates the need for yeast when you get the hang of it.

[link to www.weedemandreap.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Bull shiet , you can't store flower less then a month

Glass Jars my flower lasts over a year maybe longer who knows
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


I'm a baker, and super picky. However, I remember my mom having flour around forever. Maybe you are right... emergency usage anyway, right?
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


if in a vacuum environment it cannot go bad
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
 Quoting: WOLF*


True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Lol
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It was rude of you to be so dismissive of my post when two other users from your thread previously quoted and agreed with it...

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No offense meant wolf...but you were off topic.

This is a prepping thread & prepping for life and/or death are not mutually exclusive.

But let's not get sidetracked...ok?
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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


Thanks for the invite Pooka! Great thread!
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From watching survival shows on TV I have picked up alot of good info...but here's what I've seen as the basics of the basics...

A good knife or machete.
A fire starter (matches or lighter).
Cordage (rope, or cord).
A metal pot to boil water in.

But that is for being out in the middle of nowhere...not in your living room.
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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


Thanks for the invite Pooka! Great thread!
 Quoting: The Vigilant


Welcome and thanks, The Vigilant!

I actually went back through quite a few pages of our original thread and PMed people this link, in case they wanted to join. Positive people, that is. :) Glad you are here!
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A good Lighter a Hatchet and a good Knife is the basics
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


All important, yup!
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
 Quoting: WOLF*


True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Lol
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Hi and welcome, Miss Penny Peppers!
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Get a bunch of solar light sticks (the kind you line your driveway with) for emergency use indoors. Charge em during the day, bring em in at night.
They used to sell cheap ones at Walmart for about a dollar...
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Get a bunch of solar light sticks (the kind you line your driveway with) for emergency use indoors. Charge em during the day, bring em in at night.
They used to sell cheap ones at Walmart for about a dollar...
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Dollar stores have them sometimes, too. Great idea!!
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Best 'prep' anyone can do is to conduct the necessary inner-work to make peace with one's inevitable physical death (regardless of how it comes, since it's coming)...
 Quoting: WOLF*


True, WOLF*, but not all of us are willing to roll over and hope to God our physical deaths are as painless and quick as possible. Some of us prefer to die in battle as a proud warrior rather than to roll over and die.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Lol
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Hi and welcome, Miss Penny Peppers!
 Quoting: Pooka


Hi Pooka!
Finally figured out how to read messages in my mail box lol
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I will just go down with the ship and make my cheap and easy crockpot meal. But, thank you pooka for thinking of me. :) lol
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if in a vacuum environment it cannot go bad
 Quoting: Jake


If ALL the oxygen has been taken out and none can get in, I will kindof agree with you. The ground wheat will still do some unsavory things over time.

lol perhaps, but if stored right it should honestly last 6+ months
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Meh? Maybe.

However! If you are not interested in storing and using whole wheat (which, by the way, is much cheaper as well...).

Here is what I would store instead:

Wasa crackers (in Jake's plastic bags, and in his perfect vacuum if possible) with Oxygen eaters, and canned cheese and fish in tin cans.

The canned cheese it surprisingly good tasting.

* Wasa crackers: [link to www.wasa-usa.com (secure)] <-- hearty, nutrient dense, compact
--> O2 absorbers: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

* Canned cheese: Indian, Mexican and Arab markets will all have canned cheeses.

* Tinned Meat: Sardines, Tuna, etc

These, with water, will always make a full, satisfying meal which requires no cooking and no refrigeration.

Edit to add: Beer or wine. That never goes bad... could use refrigeration if available, but takes very little space.

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I will just go down with the ship and make my cheap and easy crockpot meal. But, thank you pooka for thinking of me. :) lol
 Quoting: D.


I cooked a turkey the other day and plan to start a slow pot of turkey rice soup tomorrow.

Going down with the ship, eh? No energy to fight for survival?
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This will be a fun thread to follow, it’s right up my alley.
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