Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

To offer a contrarian view, there is a way to take nightsoil and make it suitable as a fertilizer - by composting it. There's a book about it called The Humanure Handbook which you can read for free at the link below.

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You can buy the book at that link, too.

There's also the concept of methane digesters that treat the nightsoil anaerobically, creating methane that can be used for cooking and yielding a byproduct that can be composted using the method above. This is a much more technical solution that requires significant labor and materials to make.

Thank you for this, Cyberpunk - a new view of an old problem. I will want to have a look and right now am off to the store.

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I've always loved the idea of a "summer kitchen" though in my part of the country they are not useful or necessary. I used to read about them in books about the south, and thought what a romantic idea it is - but it was coupled with magnolia trees and lazy rivers.

Hope those in hot climates are able to make summer kitchens to help in all the SHTF issues.

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Nice post! Thank you very much!

Never grow celery again, and have a lovely house plant to boot! Grow outdoors in temperate climate, but for the rest of us, inside works.

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This thread is for UK food shortages, by someone with a horrible "name" I cannot respect.

Thread: Leaked government document warns of 'food shortages,' 'consumer panic' and 'people smuggling' in the event of no-deal Br

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Great posts, all of them, Why Knot, with two exceptions. Your suggestion of necessary water amount is so far below what's really needed that I am surprised you wrote it! Figure on a minimum of THREE GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY. That won't be enough, but you might be able to survive on it. Water for drinking, cooking, hygiene, laundry, wiping a child's dirty face, adding to the radiator, showers, and so much more that we don't think of until we don't have it.

Hygiene is critical after TSHTF because we will be in danger of dying from blood poisoning from something as tiny as a wee scratch or hangnail, if we are not washing our hands and bodies and clothing frequently. Just consider how much water that will require, yet we absolutely must do these things to survive. We will want to clean our counters and floors. These things will have to do with survival, as well. Most people only consider water for drinking and cooking, and completely forget the other two gallons per day we MUST have.

Then there is toilet flushing - as long as the plumbing works, we have to flush it. That's what "gray water" is for, but sometimes we will have to use fresh, unfortunately.

You mention what contractors carry water in - most of us don't have a clue what that would be, what it looks like, what size it is, how much it holds. A link would be super!

Otherwise, thank you very much for these suggestions! You are down to getting ready time, which certainly feels appropriate considering everything going on in the world!

Well done!

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I want to remind everyone that the Oregon "excersize" begins in the next few days. This is a pandemic exercise, rolling out fake immunizations for five counties and also Native American Reservations.

When did we see an exercise in recent history that was not quickly followed by the real thing? God help us - let's hope we see no such thing this time!

This may or may not be connected - in the latter portion of last week, a large train hauling a great many UN vehicles was seen going into Oregon. UN vehicles!!! Some with red crosses on them. There is nothing at all I like about that, and to perhaps be connected with the pandemic "excersize" is too much to consider!!

I do hope we have Oregonians here, or will have, who will tell us what they see and what they learn.

Where I live, we have a great deal of rain, meaning we have many year=round streams, rivers, lakes, ponds - all sorts of water, and that rain will begin in earnest again in September/October, becoming torrential in November and on.

As a result, people in serious thirst will drink from any water source they stumble upon, not taking time to purify the water first.

Thus, illness will be rampant - all the waterbourne diseases will come into play - typhoid, typhus, all the nasty worms and critters that will invade the body, clear to the brain, if not simply causing dysentery, which will be left for animals and people to step in - everything about drinking dirty water is a life-hazard, but it will happen.

Think about any water sources in your general vicinity. Consider how likely people are to find it, and how far they can walk before illness hits them. We have to stay away from these ill people - don't be near them, don't let pets near them. Disposal of the dead will also come into play, as even the body is hazardous. Worse, we don't know if they died of a waterbourne illness, or if they have come from an ebola-ridden area.

Stay away from the ill, at all costs. If you have to give them something, get the strongest thrower in your group to THROW whatever it is, preferably past them, moving them further away from you!

From the beginning of this thread I have recommended sheltering in place, closing and locking the doors, drawing the blinds or drapes, and waiting it out at last three weeks, to see what comes next. Be using your HAM or CB or crank radio to learn what is going on locally, but stay inside until you truly have reason to believe two people from your group dare go outside, masked and gloved, to look around.

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