Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor

This is the first and most crucial preparation, yet so many forget or neglect - WATER - remember that water is literally life - without it you will not live to eat your stored food.

Please know that one gallon of water per day is only enough to drink. You need four gallons per day, minimum - this will be what you drink, what you use for cooking, for cleaning, for laundry, for everything we are accustomed to doing with water. Forget the one gallon, please, and put back a minimum of four gallons per day per person. Please add to that for any pets or livestock - they have to have water and we are responsible for them and for all that they need.

If you do not have barrels for water, do what I have done - collect food-quality buckets and fill them. I get mine from the Walmart bakery shop for one to two dollars, depending on size. Amazing bargain - store anything in them! However, store water first. Put a little bleach in the water - and a pinch of powdered vitamin C which will remove the bleach taste. I have a large bag of citric acid, available from many sources including eBay, from which I can "fix" the bleach water taste, increase my vitamin C intake by mixing the powder with juice, etc.

KilroyWasHere, please keep reminding us about water - so many forget, or think they will handle that later - NO - water first!

Last Edited by Pooka on 09/29/2019 09:47 PM

I went off to an off grid cabin across from these rapids... [link to sunshinecoastcanada.com (secure)] The woman (one of 2 who got away) decided it was a perfect time to take me and my friend home. The wall of water from the hightide coming at us was about 7-8' but it its a good boat. We caught full on air...scary as all get go and kind of dumb. But we made it...so I met all the neighbours and stuff and it was a delight. They all get their water (via pipes) from a spring up mountain, they all have solar systems and back up gennies, and they all use propane appliances.

We designed a greenhouse for her SW facing deck and am going back to build it. She didn't know that hot peppers are perennials (7-8 years some of them) nor that vining tomatoes were. She is going to have a rather neat greenhouse when I'm done with it. I'm going to stay there for a bit I think this winter (2-3 weeks) because we are old friends who can be near each other without having to talk.

So I'm going to go around to all of her neighbours and look at what they have set up and I'll keep ya'll posted when I do. I was quite impressed...everywhere I looked I saw food. Swimming food, stuck on a rock by the shore food, buried in sand food, flying food and deer a plenty. Neat spot.

I am here and loving it! Heading into the woods later today, I am documenting camp start to finish so updates coming. Had to help my friend first for a few days, he is loving it and we got a lot done.

Talk more soon

JD

Ps going to make some funny threads on this too lol

Sounds a fascinating place, with few interrupting visitors, if the Narrows is the only way in! The materials for building the greenhouse will go by boat as you did?

Do these people own the land, or are able to simply live there by virtue of the difficulty of getting rid of them?

Lance, you sound like you would prefer there to where you just moved to! Is that the case? Sounds a safer place when SHTF than almost anywhere else.

What did you mean a woman got away? That was a very odd statement and no explanation. Creepy, even! LOL

HOw do they bring in propane, appliances, all the large and/or heavy items you said they are living with.

Very, very interesting. Tell us more! And do remember your thread, Thread: Dandelions and Civilization (short vid)UPDATED pg 11 Dandelion and Spike Proteins (Page 10) which I am still trying to keep alive~! It's important, but needs your input too!

That was not much of a trip! How long did it take? So glad you have been able to help your friend.

Are you going camping by yourself? Have you looked at any properties yet?

Tell us what you love about being there. And do tell us about the shelves in the grocery stores, and give city and state. Still having empties all over the country.

Glad you arrived safely, but it must have taken only a couple days. I thought you'd be traveling a couple weeks, with stops here and there.

It all gets brought in by boat...all the supplies. It's 35 minutes (with her boat) from here... [link to www.sechelt.ca (secure)] which is a 'fullish' town of sorts (for all your mod cons) or 8 minute through the chuck to here which is an odd place (ie I don't really like it...it is too dark 7 months of the year). [link to www.travel-british-columbia.com (secure)]

Most of the people own the land (there is a few leased lots) and their property taxes are under $200 a year...not bad. And 'she got away' because when you have romantic inclinations about someone and then you have to save their life...the energy shifts. And I did save her life so we are fast friends rather then married. Nothing creepy about it, well aside from the near death bit.

Reads like an idyllic life, outside the hazards of getting in supplies, including food not grown on site, etc. Lovely that you get to hang out there!

Got it about the woman - "the one that got away" didn't come across in first post in its usual costume. Glad you are fast friends now! Of course, that could change - we'll see. :)

Thread: Nuclear War Survival Skills PDF

Here are my "on a budget" preps.

1. Dry goods... Flour, salt, yeast, Canned evaporated milk, powdered eggs, Sugar.

2. If I am at Sams or Costco... I pick up spices
3. Crisco/Vegetable shortening/Canola Oil
4. Chocolate. hard candy, those pnut butter crackers, granola bars, Cliff Bars, canned and dry beans, canned tuna, Canned chicken, sardines in oil (You can use the oil for other stuff), canned soups, fruit and vegetables, fruit roll ups, crackers, popcorn, apple sauce, pnut butter, minute rice (Sams sells HUGE boxes for like 5 bucks)

5. Condiments, Dry Cereals, Instant Oatmeal packs,
6. Tea Bags and Instant Coffee, powdered creamer
7. 2 Manual Can openers
8. Roll of knives and a sharpening stone
9. Cast Iron Skillet
10 One Pot
11. Wooden Spoons, tongs, etc.
12. Plastic eating utensils
13. Frisbees... Can be used as plates.
14. Liquor- Even if you don't drink.. can be used for protection, trading/bartering/ fuel, antiseptic... Think Vodka, Whiskey, Rum etc.
15. Water... If we buy pop, we save the bottles and refill with clean tap water. This can be used as water for cooking, bathing, cleaning. We pick up 1 24 pack of water per week and put back.
16. Fruit Juices and Crystal Lite packet



8. Water- If we buy 2 liters of soda, we take the empties and fill with water from the tap. We buy a 24 pack of water from Sams or Costco every time we stop just for preps.

































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Thank you, MKPitBull, and hugs for you!

Very nice working, Ms Behavin. You will want far more water, and not in the bottles - plan on four gallons per day per person, because you need it not only for drinking, but for bathing, hygiene, laundry, cooking, cleaning. People forget all the reasons we will use water, and how much we actually need. Do you live in a rainy area? Find ways to catch the rainwater in barrels if possible, or buckets or whatever you can get. Have plenty water purification methods on hand, from boiling to tablets to pool shock to bleach. You could use all the bottles of water you are collecting for drinking for the family, but accumulate water in large containers for other purposes. Best wishes!


Ms Behavin, please edit your original post to remove the "9." waaaaaay at the bottom, as it creates a great deal of blank space. Thanks!!

Last Edited by Pooka on 10/03/2019 03:53 AM

I saw several pages back you all covered some heaters!
I know propane stores very well!
Insulate your home, I need to add some blown in myself! You can rent the machine and insulation from home depot.


Thread: Freezing to death: Unheated homes killed over 16,000 people across UK last winter, govt watchdog finds

In California you can not burn wood, they are not putting gas to new homes!
My most costly utilities is electric!

If you have a modern gas furnace it needs electric to run the fan and control.
You can use a generator or inverter to supply the power needed to run it! In a emergency if the power is down! The furnace should be 110 volt household plug connected to the unit.

A 1000 watt inverter Apx $100 connected to your car battery with jumper cables, and a extension cord to your unit, is all you need. I would buy a 2000w or bigger! You must run the car to utilize or it will drain your battery!
I have never used mine to run my furnace! It should work. As some electronics wont work on a modified sine-wave. would not use it on electronics like TV, computers ect, I have used it for lap tops, cell phones, all in one printer worked fine. Tools like saws drills no problems.
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For those who think it can never happen!
Thread: Ecuador in complete shutdown.

When fuel price double triple?
Say Thank you President Trump! For allowing us access to our own!

Yes, it can happen here, and seems very close right now, sadly. We have to remain prepared and totally aware of what's going on - heads on a swivel - and be aware of the threads about UN vehicles being moved everywhere in the US. That's not for any good reason that will "help" we, the people.

Here is today's thread [so far] on Ecuador.
Thread: I am in Ecuador right now during the Revolution ask me anything

Bad news surrounds us today - what are we going to do about it? Nothing, apparently, but at least we can be prepared to shelter in place,with enough food and water to last, til we see what comes next. There is grave concern about martial law, since we read in the thread about orders for Marines and all other services being ready to become active inside the US. This while yesterday there was a very active thread on on that subject.

People, please, if you don't have the food, water, and supplies under your roof, get them there, quickly. You are in this thread for a reason - use it!! Follow our advice and be prepared. We value your lives and companionship here.

How to be a Prepper on a a Budget

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More for rural folks but you can mqke a steam powered generator that puts out enough to 'gift' some to your neighbours if you like them.


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We were going to import them from a company in the US to resell to logging and other remote camps, but the fellow we were talking to about it perished.

Surely would be nice, Lance! Thank you for this.

Is this it? [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

That be the one!

Let's all try to remember to cut away all the extraneous posts above ours. At most we only need the one we are answering. Thanks, everybody.

Will do and thanks.

That is the one that I decided on. It does shut off if the oxygen level gets too low but I still want a CO detector because on the question and answer part of the reviews, one contributor (Amazon Shopper David) states that low levels of CO were detected of around 10-15 ppm, even with ventilation.

"...But quickly the co climbed and hovered at between 10 and 15 ppm. Not high enough trigger a normal house co detector, but enough to be a health risk. Limit on occupational exposure to co is 9ppm over an 8 hour period. At 10 to 15 limit should be a couple hours." [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

So, I will use it for emergency back up and monitor it. I would only use it for a few hours at a time and shut it down.

I am blessed to have a C02 detector in place already and will certainly be alert to the possibilities.

Of course we would not sleep with the heater on - dangerous idea. I am just grateful for something that will keep us from freezing when power is out and weather is cold. Even 45 degrees outside can make us, inside, be chilled to the bone. We can now prevent that, once our heaters arrive.

Pooka, I am still in the Ozarks and I am getting great information on off grid setting up. It is amazing!

Will tell more later when I get settled. Chasing a truck issue now, clutch is gone and getting a new one tomorrow no matter the cost. But all is well still, not complaining.

Looking forward to moving on after it is fixed. Temperature is dropping now. I am at a weather station staying so it accurate. (Going to talk about weather stations soon.)

Wonderful to hear from you, my friend! Sorry about your clutch - was it an unusual burn-out, or just normal wear and tear? Hope you can change it yourself, to save labor cost.

Yes, fall is falling quickly heading for a cold winter. Have you looked at any places to purchase yet?

You are moving on to where? Thought you were staying near your friend to buy a place. Changed your mind?

I recommend you be settled someplace before the nineteenth, and with water and preps in hand. Please check out all the threads - we have serious business happening here.

Continue to be careful, take care, get preps into your truck, and find a safe place to light for a while by mid-month, okay? Hurry up! And stay in close touch, please. Be looking for military and UN vehicles and let us know where and what you see.

Hugs!!

Cleared to go, safety first!

Clutch was just hydraulic fluid, I caught it before it became a problem.

Thank goodness! Where are you now? You aren't answering any questions - have you found a house and land to purchase? Looking at any? What kind of weather are you experiencing there? Tell us more, or email me, whichever you please.

Stay safe out there!

I found a place in the Ozarks for the winter, got it yesterday. Cleaned all nigh last night and cleaning all weekend. The land will be in this area somewhere. Email me for the exact location and infook.

I am safe, keeping to myself but being friendly still. I am allowed to open carry my knife, so take that with me when I go out. But has been really quiet.

My friend I came to see couldn’t wait for me to leave he acted, now he acting like he quits life on Facebook. So sad. I got a lot of knowledge but I couldn’t help him. He misses his wife, hates being alone and he is giving up on life it seems. His home was a mess, he needs to focus on himself after all he has been through. Poor guy.

SorryI missed your questions

Sorry things didn't go so well with your friend - I cannot imagine his heartbreak, yet I hope something kicks his butt out of self-pity and moves him forward back to life.

Have you found the place you are going to buy, or still looking? Happy you have a winter place to hunker down, and I hope it is all dry and tight and all the right things.

Hope you will get back to prepping and get food in right away. Things are not looking good - I see martial law starting in CA as the next thing. UN and Chinese communists are going to try to take over CA, as I understand it from certain sources. Just be prepared and keep your head on a swivel. Hope you are following the threads on the main page frequently, especially Adytum's, and I can recommend a yt source or two, if you email me, to explain what's happening.

At any rate, just keep on taking care. Not sure why you feel you need a knife going among people, but if it suits, why not.

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I should be able to get the land next year, hopefully in springtime. Well that’s the plan at least. And the area is safe, open carry, can conceal carry, purchase and trade with no license or registration here. Just a simple background check.

I am following the news, mostly Trump, but California is becoming a mess, I agree.

Please remember to cut away all the excess when you respond to a post. You only need the one you are answering, not all that came before it -that just leaves a mess. Thanks.

Sounds like weapons laws was your biggest interest there? Interesting.

So what about prepping? Are you ignoring that? At the rate things are going, you haven't much time.

CA isn't just a mess. You and everybody else needs to understand about UN being there, Mexican gangs perhaps being armed by rogue SeeIA agents ready to war, two hidden underground bases at Morgan Hill - don't know yet who owns them, and so much more. Focus on CA for now - Trump you can read in teh headlines. Not CA. Research on yt.

This is the time we should all have everything in our homes or bugout locations. Truly - I sincerely feel this and wish all of you to be ready. I'll go to the store tomorrow for a few more things, and the one thing I couldn't yet get but plan to next month if the world holds still long enough, is the means to have heat if/when power is out. Food and water - have done my best. We will last at least a little while. My doctor was kind enough recently to pick up two bags of dogfood for me when she went to Costco -so my girls are prepped for a while, as she had gotten me two cases of canned dog food a couple months ago at CostCo.

See to everything, people, especially your pets and livestock as they are completely dependent upon you and you are solely responsible for them.

Flashlights, other lighting, batteries, crank radio? Stocks of each kind of soap? You know what you need to do. Do you understand how soon you need to do it, people?