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OK...it's time to take poop prepping from theory to reality.

Scenario: The water has been turned off 1 minute ago...your toilet has 1 flush left.

Can you build an alternate pooping device before you have to go?

Will you need to go to the store for parts?

Are you going to wait until you're crossing your legs trying to hold it in?

Everybody seems to have a theory...but not an actual plan.

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80022866


I'm not opposed to taking a squat outside.

Gardens like that sort of thing, apparently. chuckle
 Quoting: CosmicFire


Not the poo!!! Imagine eating the vegetables, fertilized with human excrement! All the heavy metals, medications, goodness knows what. And even flowers and such - at some point you to have to weed and tend them!
 Quoting: Pooka


Oh. Didn't think of that.. hiding
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Also, please be advised that one must keep the poop and pee separate, as the combination is what makes that gosh-awful smell that makes us walk right past a forest outhouse and go to the trees. We need to practice that separation, do we? Or do some have it made?
 Quoting: Pooka


Have a pee bucket and a poop bucket...always pee first.

Glad somebody is taking this seriously because I have one built & I just had to use it...and it was STILL a pain in the ass! But it did the job!

My main sewer drain got plugged up with tree roots. Anything I flushed would have ended up on the basement floor...BLYUK!

- MC
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OK...it's time to take poop prepping from theory to reality.

Scenario: The water has been turned off 1 minute ago...your toilet has 1 flush left.

Can you build an alternate pooping device before you have to go?

Will you need to go to the store for parts?

Are you going to wait until you're crossing your legs trying to hold it in?

Everybody seems to have a theory...but not an actual plan.

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80022866


Very easy for the prepared sort. Have a five-gallon bucket and plenty of 13 gal. kitchen garbage bags. Have the seat and lid that snap onto the bucket top tucked away somewhere for just such a time as this. Hang a roll of paper on one side of the wire bucket handle. Have cat litter, charcoal, fir or pine needles, saw dust, etc, for absorbent and covering material. Presto! Your bathroom is ready to use in five minutes or less.

Now to be more honest - my knees will not permit me to sit on that height, and I have not yet figured out what I can place the bucket on that will bring it to the correct height, and be solid enough not to slip around or cause me to fall. Ideas, please?
 Quoting: Pooka


In a pinch you could line your toilet bowl with the plastic bag...use it...tie the plastic bag closed & throw it in the trash. The only problem is the bottom of the plastic bag will get wet from the toilet water & drip...so bring your trash can into the biffy with you.

- MC
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OK...it's time to take poop prepping from theory to reality.

Scenario: The water has been turned off 1 minute ago...your toilet has 1 flush left.

Can you build an alternate pooping device before you have to go?

Will you need to go to the store for parts?

Are you going to wait until you're crossing your legs trying to hold it in?

Everybody seems to have a theory...but not an actual plan.

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80022866


I'm not opposed to taking a squat outside.

Gardens like that sort of thing, apparently. chuckle
 Quoting: CosmicFire


Not the poo!!! Imagine eating the vegetables, fertilized with human excrement! All the heavy metals, medications, goodness knows what. And even flowers and such - at some point you to have to weed and tend them!
 Quoting: Pooka


You just need to set up a 2 stage composting system to use humanure as fertilizer. [link to humanurehandbook.com (secure)]
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
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I'm on alert. That is just across the way from me!!

hiding
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
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I'm on alert. That is just across the way from me!!

hiding
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That's dangerous! Do you have a Berkey? Don't know if that would remove the bad stuff. Just be very, very cautious in all that you do, please.
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
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Saw that this morning and it really is upsetting. Getting at us in the most basic of ways. What happens to children who drank that mess?
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
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Saw that this morning and it really is upsetting. Getting at us in the most basic of ways. What happens to children who drank that mess?
 Quoting: Pooka


I have an AquaPure with extra filters which I use daily.
I'm upping how much contained water we are getting regularly now.
I saw the sheriffs report on this and said that the public was in no danger cause they caught it in time. Sheriff also warned all neighboring cities to up their security protocols.
Oh I hope they stay on top of this threat.
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ALERT! This is why you need to keep extra gallons of water in your home. (one of the reasons).

- MC

Thread: 'This is dangerous stuff': Hacker increased chemical level at Oldsmar's city water system, sheriff says
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78887036


I'm on alert. That is just across the way from me!!

hiding
 Quoting: KTee


That's dangerous! Do you have a Berkey? Don't know if that would remove the bad stuff. Just be very, very cautious in all that you do, please.
 Quoting: Pooka


I have a berkey filter but even a berkey can't be trusted with chemicals like that!

They increased the concentration by something like 10,000 percent!

- MC
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I have a berkey filter but even a berkey can't be trusted with chemicals like that!

They increased the concentration by something like 10,000 percent!

- MC
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There's a factoid to scare a person thoroughly! YIKES!!
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I have a berkey filter but even a berkey can't be trusted with chemicals like that!

They increased the concentration by something like 10,000 percent!

- MC
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There's a factoid to scare a person thoroughly! YIKES!!
 Quoting: Pooka


Yup. From the internet, hackers can mess with water, electric, nat-gas, traffic lights, communications, banking records, hospital records, pharmacy records, etc. etc.

Now is more important than ever to be prepped!

- MC
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Yup. From the internet, hackers can mess with water, electric, nat-gas, traffic lights, communications, banking records, hospital records, pharmacy records, etc. etc.

Now is more important than ever to be prepped!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80032614


Yes, it surely is. Have your plans set, your water, food, protection from the elements - ALL elements- and communications in place. Plan to stay at home if at all possible, to maintain the safety and familiarity as well as your preps, neighbors, everything you know.

It's possible you might have to leave but later be able to return. Bearing this in mind, have some things hidden carefully away, as difficult to find as possible, since if your property has been broached, all your preps and belongings likely are either stolen or damaged beyond use. You could regain the familiarity of home, and need to have water and food there, as well as warm clothing, fire starters, etc.
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Another word on indoor make-shift toilets:

If a family member is older, disabled, obese, otherwise challenged, bedside commodes are readily available in all sizes and adjustabilities, both new and used. These will be far safer and more comfortable for many people, including small children. There are even liners for the container that goes under the seat, so that they and contents can be easily discarded into a larger trash bag.

Try a thrift shop, yard sale, anyplace you can think of. Not hard to find, and would be a great help to many, including that young child you were just starting to potty train when shtf.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

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Another word on indoor make-shift toilets:

If a family member is older, disabled, obese, otherwise challenged, bedside commodes are readily available in all sizes and adjustabilities, both new and used. These will be far safer and more comfortable for many people, including small children. There are even liners for the container that goes under the seat, so that they and contents can be easily discarded into a larger trash bag.

Try a thrift shop, yard sale, anyplace you can think of. Not hard to find, and would be a great help to many, including that young child you were just starting to potty train when shtf.
 Quoting: Pooka


The commode I made is out of an old antique chair...all wood, heavy, arm wrests...VERY comfy, VERY solid. It's the true definition of a "throne" lmao

- MC
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Yup. From the internet, hackers can mess with water, electric, nat-gas, traffic lights, communications, banking records, hospital records, pharmacy records, etc. etc.

Now is more important than ever to be prepped!

- MC
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80032614


Yes, it surely is. Have your plans set, your water, food, protection from the elements - ALL elements- and communications in place. Plan to stay at home if at all possible, to maintain the safety and familiarity as well as your preps, neighbors, everything you know.

It's possible you might have to leave but later be able to return. Bearing this in mind, have some things hidden carefully away, as difficult to find as possible, since if your property has been broached, all your preps and belongings likely are either stolen or damaged beyond use. You could regain the familiarity of home, and need to have water and food there, as well as warm clothing, fire starters, etc.
 Quoting: Pooka


If you have to leave your home...throw couch cushions around, tip a few tables over...make it look like the place has already been ransacked.
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So I says to myself...Mental Case...what do you do in this cold if the power goes out?

Welp...I have my truck full of gas if I need to bail on my house. I have the fire place full of wood ready to be lit. And I'm cogitating on how I can add any amount of heat to the house...any way at all.

I do have a gas powered hot water heater. So I'm thinking I could leave the hot water drip kind of fast in the tub...take a pipe & catch the drip & run it to the rear of the tub...so the hot water is heating the tub itself & all the pipes & traps on it's way out.

Then I thought...hell, I could do that with every sink in the house...even the basement wash tub. That should add "some" heat to the house!

- MC
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bump for southerners right now!

Hang in there guys! Our thoughts are with you!
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Yet another way to warm up for a while.

Park your car in the sun & clear the snow off the windows.

I just jumped in my truck, it's 0 degrees outside & it was nice & warm in there because it's parked in the sunshine. This was before I even started it.

- MC
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What did I say about having an alt place to poop?

Thread: just got off phone call w/friend family in Texas-DFW's water plant was struck by lightning! no H2O!

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Texas/Oklahoma border here,,,, still about 5 inches of snow from last storm,,,, snowing now,,, got about another inch in the last hour or so,,, here is the story,,, most businesses closed due to no power, ones that are open have already ran out of nearly everything, lots of places where credit card/atm cards not working, so cash only,,,, any fast food place open has ran out of food, 3-4 hour lines to fill propane tanks, water off in most places, power only on about 15 minutes in 8 hrs if lucky, no pet food left in any store open, gas stations that are open are running out of fuel,grocery stores closed due to no water or broken pipes, shit getting real out here folks.... stay safe....

Thread: Texas braces for water & cell service outages as massive blackout leaves MILLIONS freezing in the dark ahead of 2nd snow storm (Page 14)
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Another word on indoor make-shift toilets:

If a family member is older, disabled, obese, otherwise challenged, bedside commodes are readily available in all sizes and adjustabilities, both new and used. These will be far safer and more comfortable for many people, including small children. There are even liners for the container that goes under the seat, so that they and contents can be easily discarded into a larger trash bag.

Try a thrift shop, yard sale, anyplace you can think of. Not hard to find, and would be a great help to many, including that young child you were just starting to potty train when shtf.
 Quoting: Pooka


The commode I made is out of an old antique chair...all wood, heavy, arm wrests...VERY comfy, VERY solid. It's the true definition of a "throne" lmao

- MC
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One five gallon bucket

Five feet of pipe insulating tube OR a pool noodle with a slit on one side

Cat litter or lime for mortar or ash and dirt mixed

Garbage bags


put the bag in the bucket.
secure with the pipe insulating tube or slit pool noodle
add cat litter, lime or ash/dirt mixture

do business, add a little more litter or stuff

seal and discard bag before it gets too full

neat and easy
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Thanks, guys, for the Texas posts. When they get a little under control down there, it will be a good time to pin this thread on the front page again, to help them with their hindsight. They may never experience such a horror again, we hope, but they will feel far better being prepared just in case.

For the rest of us in better weather, let's remember this could happen to us, as well, considering weather manipulation is very much a thing now, and because we have entered the new ice age [read The Ice Age Farmer] and solar minimum. We may have to get through the same sort of thing at any time.

MC has great ideas - check out his posts. The warmth in the vehicle parked in the sun is a great one - think about where you are parked and how you could adjust that space so that the sun is on your vehicle. Even warming for a little while would make life easier as you combat the situation inside your cold home.

So many are blaming the victims in the Texan situation - what a beastly shame. They may regret that before long. Let's lift them up in prayer - the suffering Texans, I mean, and the grinches as well, since they obviously need a heart change.

Everybody stay well and warm and don't stop being ready for whatever might come, as we don't know from day to day what that might be.

God bless you all.
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So many are blaming the victims in the Texan situation - what a beastly shame.
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I agree 100% This should be treated the same as a hurricane.

WHERE IS FEMA? WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT? WHERE IS THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS? WHERE ARE THE MAYORS OF TEXAS CITIES?

(whew! that felt good!)

- MC
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I agree 100% This should be treated the same as a hurricane.

WHERE IS FEMA? WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT? WHERE IS THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS? WHERE ARE THE MAYORS OF TEXAS CITIES?

(whew! that felt good!)

- MC
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Pooka pats MC's shoulder. There, there, MC.

You're darned right, MC!! Nobody seems to be helping there, which seems to bear out very well the suggestion that there is anger and discrimination toward Texas for even considering the possibility of seceding from the Union.

Because we know, or at least I know - y'all may not have come to this realization - that we manipulate the weather on a daily basis, deliberately - therefore we may very well, nay, likely have put the horrible cold and snow on top of them.

We are such nice people - aren't we now?
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit.
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One five gallon bucket

Five feet of pipe insulating tube OR a pool noodle with a slit on one side

Cat litter or lime for mortar or ash and dirt mixed

Garbage bags


put the bag in the bucket.
secure with the pipe insulating tube or slit pool noodle
add cat litter, lime or ash/dirt mixture

do business, add a little more litter or stuff

seal and discard bag before it gets too full

neat and easy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80039258


Do recall that to avoid the horrendous "outhouse stench" urine and feces must remain separate. Not sure how women, particularly, will manage this in the makeshift potties.
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit.
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Texan Buckeye, thank you for the kind words!

If you had used a findable "name" I would have returned the green!

Continue enjoying here, and by all means add your own tips, wisdom, thoughts. Bless you!
Prayer is the most powerful force on earth.

“I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln

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One five gallon bucket

Five feet of pipe insulating tube OR a pool noodle with a slit on one side

Cat litter or lime for mortar or ash and dirt mixed

Garbage bags


put the bag in the bucket.
secure with the pipe insulating tube or slit pool noodle
add cat litter, lime or ash/dirt mixture

do business, add a little more litter or stuff

seal and discard bag before it gets too full

neat and easy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80039258


Do recall that to avoid the horrendous "outhouse stench" urine and feces must remain separate. Not sure how women, particularly, will manage this in the makeshift potties.
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Kitty litter might help a little.

- MC
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Time for a subject change, seems to me.

It's nearly spring, thank the good Lord, and that means time for starting seeds. I hope many now "get" how important growing your own food is, and that we cannot refuse to expend the work and energy any longer, but MUST get on it.

This year make a commmitment to yourself, if you are a newbie at growing things, to work at growing a set number and type of thing. Radishes grow easier than anything else, so put those at the top of your list. Radish and lettuce seed mixed together means radishes will break the surface of the soil, allowing lettuce seed to come up. Pick a few more of your favorites, and get to work.

All seed beds MUST be watered at least once a day until the seeds come up. Just soak the surface, so that the soil remains damp and the seedlings can break through. No water equals dead seeds.

Learn to watch for bugs predating your plants, and learn to water appropriately and sufficiently. After seeds break through soil, you must water to below the level of the bottom of roots. Otherwise the roots turn upward looking for water and thus end up sickly plants, soon to die. After you have watered as much as you believe necessary, stick your finger down in the dirt as far as it will go, and see how far down the soil is watered. Doubt it is as much as half an inch - only enough to sicken and kill the plant.

Okay, there's a start - who is on board to start gardening? I'll talk you through it, newbies, as long as you are working at it.
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Check out "Zippo hand warmer".

It uses the same fuel as a zippo lighter but it doesn't have a flame...it has an element that glows red. Then that is covered by metal with holes in it...and the whole thing goes into a leather pouch (so you don't set yourself on fire).

Seems to me one of these hand warmers would go a long LONG way in your sleeping bag...or under the covers...as long as your head was out so you weren't breathing the fumes.

- MC





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