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if in a vacuum environment it cannot go bad
 Quoting: Jake


If ALL the oxygen has been taken out and none can get in, I will kindof agree with you. The ground wheat will still do some unsavory things over time.

lol perhaps, but if stored right it should honestly last 6+ months
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Meh? Maybe.

However! If you are not interested in storing and using whole wheat (which, by the way, is much cheaper as well...).

Here is what I would store instead:

Wasa crackers (in Jake's plastic bags, and in his perfect vacuum if possible) with Oxygen eaters, and canned cheese and fish in tin cans.

The canned cheese it surprisingly good tasting.

* Wasa crackers: [link to www.wasa-usa.com (secure)] <-- hearty, nutrient dense, compact
--> O2 absorbers: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

* Canned cheese: Indian, Mexican and Arab markets will all have canned cheeses.

* Tinned Meat: Sardines, Tuna, etc
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


What great ideas you have!!!

Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

Sardines and tune are great protein, and great change from beans and rice. Just not too much - Fukushima, you know.

I like the look of these Wasa crackers, Anymous Cowboy. I didn't find the nutrient content = can you?

Almost reminds me of hard tack, the staple that was carried on ships for probably a hundred years. It's probably still available somewhere, too.
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I will just go down with the ship and make my cheap and easy crockpot meal. But, thank you pooka for thinking of me. :) lol
 Quoting: D.


I cooked a turkey the other day and plan to start a slow pot of turkey rice soup tomorrow.

Going down with the ship, eh? No energy to fight for survival?
 Quoting: Pooka


Nope. Why bother?
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This will be a fun thread to follow, it’s right up my alley.
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Glad you are liking it! We had a lot of fun in the other one when we got the trolls weeded out. LOL You need to contribute as well as learn - we all do double duty here!

Or mean ol' Pooka cracks the whip! Watch the red fly!

Really, the other thread blessed many of us greatly, and we are going for replicating and extending that here.
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I will just go down with the ship and make my cheap and easy crockpot meal. But, thank you pooka for thinking of me. :) lol
 Quoting: D.


I cooked a turkey the other day and plan to start a slow pot of turkey rice soup tomorrow.

Going down with the ship, eh? No energy to fight for survival?
 Quoting: Pooka


Nope. Why bother?
 Quoting: D.


Sorry, D. Wouldn't have invited you if I'd realized you are pretty tired of it all. I thought I was remembering you giving us good ideas in the other thread.

At any rate, I'm sorry. Hope something stirs you energy for life one day soon.
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Get a bunch of solar light sticks (the kind you line your driveway with) for emergency use indoors. Charge em during the day, bring em in at night.

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GREAT idea!

You wouldn't believe how important light is until you don't have it!

It is why they hunted whales...for lamp oil.

When they first started using petrolium, all it was for is kerosine for lamps...everything else was thrown away (even the gasoline & diesel).
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if in a vacuum environment it cannot go bad
 Quoting: Jake


If ALL the oxygen has been taken out and none can get in, I will kindof agree with you. The ground wheat will still do some unsavory things over time.

lol perhaps, but if stored right it should honestly last 6+ months
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Meh? Maybe.

However! If you are not interested in storing and using whole wheat (which, by the way, is much cheaper as well...).

Here is what I would store instead:

Wasa crackers (in Jake's plastic bags, and in his perfect vacuum if possible) with Oxygen eaters, and canned cheese and fish in tin cans.

The canned cheese it surprisingly good tasting.

* Wasa crackers: [link to www.wasa-usa.com (secure)] <-- hearty, nutrient dense, compact
--> O2 absorbers: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

* Canned cheese: Indian, Mexican and Arab markets will all have canned cheeses.

* Tinned Meat: Sardines, Tuna, etc
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


What great ideas you have!!!

Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

Sardines and tune are great protein, and great change from beans and rice. Just not too much - Fukushima, you know.

I like the look of these Wasa crackers, Anymous Cowboy. I didn't find the nutrient content = can you?

Almost reminds me of hard tack, the staple that was carried on ships for probably a hundred years. It's probably still available somewhere, too.
 Quoting: Pooka


Girl, if you can eat sardines, you will survive anything, because you can eat anything i am so mad i don't like that stuff
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Oh!! You mean I need to like them? Ewwww

This is survival - crunchy bones and all. Eww
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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?
 Quoting: Pooka


No, not much more expensive that any other cheese. Its surprising actually.

I like the look of these Wasa crackers, Anymous Cowboy. I didn't find the nutrient content = can you?

Almost reminds me of hard tack, the staple that was carried on ships for probably a hundred years. It's probably still available somewhere, too.
 Quoting: Pooka


Wasa crackers are way more edible than hard tack... but they are not your typical cracker. Here is a funny article about them:

[link to www.epicurious.com (secure)]

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check this out for hard tac


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Really kewl, Presqi! I think it has to be soaked - didn't the old sailors soak it in their coffee or tea? A person could dunk this in their soup, or soak it there, or even in beans - as any grain with beans makes a complete protein.

Thanks very much for this!
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check this out for hard tac

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I was looking into hard tac.

Decided that dry lasagna noodles should be somewhat close & easier to deal with.
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IMO, and I am by no means an expert prepper, but canned soup seems the smartest purchase to me. Dried goods might have a longer shelf life, but it isn't food so much as access to clean water - and lots of it - that will be crucial to any survival scenario. Beans and Rice both need a fair amount of H2O to be prepared, and every ounce is water that could be otherwise utilized.

Plus, soup comes with it's own water.

I did purchase a 4-pack of Lifestraws recently, as well as water purification tablets (cheap) and de-iodinization tabs (cheap and make the purified tab water more palatable).

Otherwise, my water plans rely on rainwater and various catch basins (including a swimming pool XD).

Feel free to pick any and all of this apart. I am at best, a novice regarding these things.

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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?
 Quoting: Pooka


No, not much more expensive that any other cheese. Its surprising actually.

I like the look of these Wasa crackers, Anymous Cowboy. I didn't find the nutrient content = can you?

Almost reminds me of hard tack, the staple that was carried on ships for probably a hundred years. It's probably still available somewhere, too.
 Quoting: Pooka


Wasa crackers are way more edible than hard tack... but they are not your typical cracker. Here is a funny article about them:

[link to www.epicurious.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Lol I like it!!!
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IMO, and I am by no means an expert prepper, but canned soup seems the smartest purchase to me. Dried goods might have a longer shelf life, but it isn't food so much as access to clean water - and lots of it - that will be crucial to any survival scenario. Beans and Rice both need a fair amount of H2O to be prepared, and every ounce is water that could be otherwise utilized.

Plus, soup comes with it's own water.

I did purchase a 4-pack of Lifestraws recently, as well as water purification tablets (cheap) and de-iodinization tabs (cheap and make the purified tab water more palatable).

Otherwise, my water plans rely on rainwater.

Feel free to pick any and all of this apart. I am at best, a novice regarding these things.
 Quoting: The Vigilant


The Vigilant, please do stay with us. There is lots to learn among these great posters, and you will be adding helps yourself!

Regarding the soups - they are very high in salt, meaning they will create more thirst, meaning they will require more drinking water.

I think soups would become very boring quickly. I have gone with things to make only with hot water - need to buy a big thing of oats this week. I have dried soups from CostCo - great stuff. Ramen noodles, under which I melt cheese, just for sheer pleasure.

Just keep with us and read along - there are many things you can do that are better than canned soup, though we should all have at least some of that, as well.
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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

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There's that squirt on cheese that comes in a presurized can to squirt on crackers (bacon flavored)...and velveta doesn't need to be fridgitated until it's opened.

Then you have that cheese dip in a jar next to the fritos & nacho chips.
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Feel free to pick any and all of this apart. I am at best, a novice regarding these things.

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No picking apart here...we're all just trying to contribute.
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check this out for hard tac


 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Really kewl, Presqi! I think it has to be soaked - didn't the old sailors soak it in their coffee or tea? A person could dunk this in their soup, or soak it there, or even in beans - as any grain with beans makes a complete protein.

Thanks very much for this!
 Quoting: Pooka


listen to full video she tells ya, but yes you are right
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Some of the notes under the video are excellent - I like the idea of making them very small, like oyster crackers, so they can be dropped into hot soup or beans or whatever, to soften and to add bulk and filling capacity to whatever one is eating.

Another suggestion is adding cinnamon. I'd like those, made small, soaked in tea with honey.

I wanted to bring up honey - we didn't discuss it in the other thread, either. Honey is worth far more than its weight in gold. Not the junk in the cute little bear or from the grocery store. Real honey. Wildflower honey, clover honey, etc.

It can be used externally to heal wounds, even.

It has tremendous nutritional quality, great flavor, goes with almost anything. This will soothe a sore throat, even.
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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances.

This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff.

I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Dark Wolf, it's horribly true that diabetics will die without insulin. I vaguely recall a post similar to what you mention, about a plant. Also a few years ago I found a different plant while researching for a friend whose grandmother had diabetes.

There has to be a way - let's find it!

Thank you for posting this - we don't know how many people on GLP have diabetes, and far more in their families. This is crucial information!
 Quoting: Pooka


Sorry to jump in without reading the entire thread. I am pretty sure Dark Wolf is talking about inulin, which is found in Jerusalem Artichokes.

There are a great number of alternatives for type 2 diabetes. Type one...not so much. Type 2 requires a full reset of the metabolism and obviously a diet change. It's really easy to say and not that easy to do, but it is doable.

Now I will check the rest of the thread and post more info on the topic if necessary.
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I would kill something before i ate beans and rice

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Use your bean & rice stash to bait a squirrel & enjoy your squirrel dinner :)
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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

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There's that squirt on cheese that comes in a presurized can to squirt on crackers (bacon flavored)...and velveta doesn't need to be fridgitated until it's opened.

Then you have that cheese dip in a jar next to the fritos & nacho chips.
 Quoting: Mental Case


NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Neither of those are real cheese - velveeta is water and aluminum. I believe the canned type is too.

Nasty stuff, and aluminum is implicated in Alzheimer's.

[Check your antiperspirant - you may be soaking in aluminum on a daily basis!]
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This will be a fun thread to follow, it’s right up my alley.
Eyelids starting to get heavy but will check in again...
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Glad you are liking it! We had a lot of fun in the other one when we got the trolls weeded out. LOL You need to contribute as well as learn - we all do double duty here!

Or mean ol' Pooka cracks the whip! Watch the red fly!

Really, the other thread blessed many of us greatly, and we are going for replicating and extending that here.
 Quoting: Pooka


Still awake lol.
Here’s one...
They’re called water bricks. I think they hold 3 gallons and they’re stackable so you can stack them up to the ceiling without taking up too much space.
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Continuation of another thread of wonderful people with the best ever ideas for practical prepping even for those with little money.

We'll also address the issues which may come up about "food stamps" and how to best manage without them, or with reduced amounts, or with partial box of food delivered with partial "food stamps".

We address power outage, heating and cooking methods, first aid, we run disaster scenarios to see if we know what to do.

This is probably the only prepping thread a person would need right now, whether long-time prepper here to share, or newbie prepper here to learn.

Welcome!! Join us and learn and teach and enjoy!!
 Quoting: Pooka


This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances.

This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff.

I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


Dark Wolf, it's horribly true that diabetics will die without insulin. I vaguely recall a post similar to what you mention, about a plant. Also a few years ago I found a different plant while researching for a friend whose grandmother had diabetes.

There has to be a way - let's find it!

Thank you for posting this - we don't know how many people on GLP have diabetes, and far more in their families. This is crucial information!
 Quoting: Pooka


Sorry to jump in without reading the entire thread. I am pretty sure Dark Wolf is talking about inulin, which is found in Jerusalem Artichokes.

There are a great number of alternatives for type 2 diabetes. Type one...not so much. Type 2 requires a full reset of the metabolism and obviously a diet change. It's really easy to say and not that easy to do, but it is doable.

Now I will check the rest of the thread and post more info on the topic if necessary.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Fluffy pancakes, as common as is diabetes, all the information you can give us will be wonderful! Thank you! Perhaps even methods of preparing the plants for use, and how much equals how much insulin. Whatever you can offer will be wonderful!
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I have been using a cheap $3 solar/mains rechargeable torch for about a yr. So cheap that the mains part broke after first use lol, however, it is constantly charging in the light and it has been incredibly useful as we get so many power cuts here (daily).

Anyway food preps here are flour, rice, salt, sugar.
The locals grow wheat when not rice and grind for flour and we have sugar cane also nrby.
A useful book on wild edibles would also be handy. Most crops n lots of veg grows wild if you know what to look for. The local women from poorer households are out everyday foraging in the roadsides and by the river for spinach, garlic and other leaf veg, spices n herbs, plus flowers and nettles for eating. It seems crazy but when you see a guy pushing his stall in the city loaded with stinging nettles (same old common nettles the world over) and a que (lol) to buy it then it must be good eating!
I'm considering buying a wind up radio also, just in case shtf scenario hf

Useful thread!
We are used to power outages here, i will see what i can come up with for tips.

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It doesn't cost me a cent to pay attention to the tracks in the snow.

And by doing so...I know that I have several rabbits and squirrels living under my tool shed & behind the wood pile.

Little do they know the diabolical doom I have planned for them if the SHTF!
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Here’s a link about using colloidal silver to purify water. I don’t make it myself but there’s info in same link or if you google. It has no shelf life. Don’t let freeze and store in dark bottle. I usually buy the one with the highest ppm and use less or water it down depending on what I’m using it for. You don’t need much. A few drops at a time depending on the strength. (Disclaimer : I’m not pushing it on anyone. Just providing some info on another way to disinfect water etc. )

It is what was used as an antibiotic before what is used today. It is or was used in eye drops when babies are born and the salve is used on burn victims. I have had great success using it for various things and to get rid of an infection from an abscessed tooth I couldn’t get hold of the dentist for. Worked within 24 hours.

I have also given to my kitties. One for a weepy eye and another who was bit from an animal to clear up his infection. In both cases I put few drops in their food a few times a day for 3-5 days. Same with humans although some people take it daily. I only use when needed. Can be used topically as well.

There’s lots of info on how many ppm’s you need etc that I don’t have answers for but you can google as well as how to make it yourself. I prefer to buy it. Last batch I got was from amazon. Many places you can buy from. There’s much written about it and all the uses for. There are even threads here.

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Get a bunch of solar light sticks (the kind you line your driveway with) for emergency use indoors. Charge em during the day, bring em in at night.

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GREAT idea!

You wouldn't believe how important light is until you don't have it!

It is why they hunted whales...for lamp oil.

When they first started using petrolium, all it was for is kerosine for lamps...everything else was thrown away (even the gasoline & diesel).
 Quoting: Mental Case


Poor whales verysad

Anyway, I also have a sh__ ton of candles. Thrift store is sometimes a good place to find cheap ones
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Get a bunch of solar light sticks (the kind you line your driveway with) for emergency use indoors. Charge em during the day, bring em in at night.
They used to sell cheap ones at Walmart for about a dollar...
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


I do the same and use indoors. We lose power here often and my kids are afraid of the dark so I keep one in their rooms.

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