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Sorry to jump in without reading the entire thread. I am pretty sure Dark Wolf is talking about inulin, which is found in Jerusalem Artichokes.

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I have jerusalem artichokes growing in my back yard.

I got them because they are a perfect survival food...I didn't know they have insulin in them.

They spread like crazy, they outgrow any weed...and they're pretty tasty.

They taste like a potato that's a tiny bit sweet (but not a sweet potato).
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IMO, and I am by no means an expert prepper, but canned soup seems the smartest purchase to me. Dried goods might have a longer shelf life, but it isn't food so much as access to clean water - and lots of it - that will be crucial to any survival scenario. Beans and Rice both need a fair amount of H2O to be prepared, and every ounce is water that could be otherwise utilized.

Plus, soup comes with it's own water.

I did purchase a 4-pack of Lifestraws recently, as well as water purification tablets (cheap) and de-iodinization tabs (cheap and make the purified tab water more palatable).

Otherwise, my water plans rely on rainwater and various catch basins (including a swimming pool XD).

Feel free to pick any and all of this apart. I am at best, a novice regarding these things.
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Here’s a link about using colloidal silver to purify water.
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I love colloidal silver, but for water purification, I like hydrogen peroxide better... and it is crazy cheap.


It is what was used as an antibiotic before what is used today. It is or was used in eye drops when babies are born and the salve is used on burn victims. I have had great success using it for various things and to get rid of an infection from an abscessed tooth I couldn’t get hold of the dentist for. Worked within 24 hours.

I have also given to my kitties. One for a weepy eye and another who was bit from an animal to clear up his infection. In both cases I put few drops in their food a few times a day for 3-5 days. Same with humans although some people take it daily. I only use when needed. Can be used topically as well.
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Brilliant.

Also check Chlorine Dioxide, Hydrogen Peroxide, and Iodine + Sea Salt Solution for very similar uses.

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I have been using a cheap $3 solar/mains rechargeable torch for about a yr. So cheap that the mains part broke after first use lol, however, it is constantly charging in the light and it has been incredibly useful as we get so many power cuts here (daily).

Anyway food preps here are flour, rice, salt, sugar.
The locals grow wheat when not rice and grind for flour and we have sugar cane also nrby.
A useful book on wild edibles would also be handy. Most crops n lots of veg grows wild if you know what to look for. The local women from poorer households are out everyday foraging in the roadsides and by the river for spinach, garlic and other leaf veg, spices n herbs, plus flowers and nettles for eating. It seems crazy but when you see a guy pushing his stall in the city loaded with stinging nettles (same old common nettles the world over) and a que (lol) to buy it then it must be good eating!
I'm considering buying a wind up radio also, just in case shtf scenario hf
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Great ideas!! I did buy the wind=up radio some time ago. It's in the tsunami trunk in the car, but since I have a CB in the car, I should probably bring the radio back in here.

A book on local wild edibles is probably the very first thing we should have recommended!! You are so right!!! Dandelions make fine eating! Nasturtiums, which can be planted and grow easily, are edible, as well.

About the nettles - I've been stung by the darned things so many times - even fell backward one time in a patch while piddling in the woods. Bad memory, but hilarious to everyone who hears about it! I understand they have to be boiled multiple times to rid the sting, so I wonder what nutritional content is left.
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I would kill something before i ate beans and rice
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I would put something I killed IN the beans and rice lol
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Here’s a link about using colloidal silver to purify water.
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I love colloidal silver, but for water purification, I like hydrogen peroxide better... and it is crazy cheap.


It is what was used as an antibiotic before what is used today. It is or was used in eye drops when babies are born and the salve is used on burn victims. I have had great success using it for various things and to get rid of an infection from an abscessed tooth I couldn’t get hold of the dentist for. Worked within 24 hours.
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I have also given to my kitties. One for a weepy eye and another who was bit from an animal to clear up his infection. In both cases I put few drops in their food a few times a day for 3-5 days. Same with humans although some people take it daily. I only use when needed. Can be used topically as well.
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Brilliant.

Also check Chlorine Dioxide, Hydrogen Peroxide, and Iodine + Sea Salt Solution for very similar uses.


Never have heard of using peroxide for purifying water - it would sure taste better than using bleach! Tell us more, please.

I've never done anything with colloidal silver - know little about it and am frankly a little afraid of it. Glad it has worked so well for you and yours.
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It doesn't cost me a cent to pay attention to the tracks in the snow.

And by doing so...I know that I have several rabbits and squirrels living under my tool shed & behind the wood pile.

Little do they know the diabolical doom I have planned for them if the SHTF!

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I would kill something before i ate beans and rice
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I would put something I killed IN the beans and rice lol
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Honey is my go to thing when i feel any sickness or anything down at all

can't sleep ? spoon full of honey
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Didn't know it's great for sleep, too, but not surprising - it is such a superfood with so many incredible properties. We really need to encourage everyone to buy the real thing.
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check this out for hard tac


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I would kill something before i ate beans and rice
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I would put something I killed IN the beans and rice lol
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Oh my, yes!

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NUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I don't want either one!! I only have a little beans and rice because they are cheap and would be filling if I were forced to eat them.
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If ALL the oxygen has been taken out and none can get in, I will kindof agree with you. The ground wheat will still do some unsavory things over time.

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Meh? Maybe.

However! If you are not interested in storing and using whole wheat (which, by the way, is much cheaper as well...).

Here is what I would store instead:

Wasa crackers (in Jake's plastic bags, and in his perfect vacuum if possible) with Oxygen eaters, and canned cheese and fish in tin cans.

The canned cheese it surprisingly good tasting.

* Wasa crackers: [link to www.wasa-usa.com (secure)] <-- hearty, nutrient dense, compact
--> O2 absorbers: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

* Canned cheese: Indian, Mexican and Arab markets will all have canned cheeses.

* Tinned Meat: Sardines, Tuna, etc
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


What great ideas you have!!!

Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

Sardines and tune are great protein, and great change from beans and rice. Just not too much - Fukushima, you know.

I like the look of these Wasa crackers, Anymous Cowboy. I didn't find the nutrient content = can you?

Almost reminds me of hard tack, the staple that was carried on ships for probably a hundred years. It's probably still available somewhere, too.
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Girl, if you can eat sardines, you will survive anything, because you can eat anything i am so mad i don't like that stuff
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Oh!! You mean I need to like them? Ewwww

This is survival - crunchy bones and all. Eww
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Never have heard of using peroxide for purifying water
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Anyway, I also have a sh__ ton of candles. Thrift store is sometimes a good place to find cheap ones

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I have never seen anything burn as clean or as long as crisco shortening!!!

If I'm burning a wide candle, I'll add a little shortening to the top before I light it.

After an hour or 2 it's only burned the shortening & barely any of the candle wax.

I have this stupid little but wide candle that I have over 50 hours of burn time on because I keep adding some crisco :)
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It doesn't cost me a cent to pay attention to the tracks in the snow.

And by doing so...I know that I have several rabbits and squirrels living under my tool shed & behind the wood pile.

Little do they know the diabolical doom I have planned for them if the SHTF!

 Quoting: Mental Case


Lolkitty22
 Quoting: aliasx


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Anyway, I also have a sh__ ton of candles. Thrift store is sometimes a good place to find cheap ones

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I have never seen anything burn as clean or as long as crisco shortening!!!

If I'm burning a wide candle, I'll add a little shortening to the top before I light it.

After an hour or 2 it's only burned the shortening & barely any of the candle wax.

I have this stupid little but wide candle that I have over 50 hours of burn time on because I keep adding some crisco :)
 Quoting: Mental Case


That's amazing! What a cool idea! I don't eat shortening, and wouldn't, so I don't have it on hand. HOWEVER having a can of that handy would be perfect for candles, and then to rainproof your boots or shoes. For eating, olive oil and butter.
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This thread might be a good place for me to put down this idea, OP. While I was sitting on the toilet about ninety minutes ago as of this post I was reading through a Diabetes booklet I have. I was also thinking about the inevitable collapse of American society, and all of Humanity shortly after the collapse of America. I realized that insulin has a definite shelf life. I actually thought the stuff could remain in cold storage for decades and room temperature for months straight. Nope... turns out the stuff is only viable in the best of circumstances for normally less than a month's time. Only the "best of the best" insulin lasts up to close to eighty days in the best of circumstances.

This means once the power grid is out, probably for months or years straight, Type 1 Diabetes are going to definitely die within about a month's time. Unless if there are a number of them who happen to have operational generators with the proper maintenance and fuel to last for years or longer and manage to secure a vast amount of insulin all Type 1 Diabetics will die within about a month's time. Type 2 Diabetics on the other hand will have a chance to eat healthier depending on where they're surviving and being willing to eat healthy foodstuff.

I could of sworn I heard of a plant in another GLP thread that is a natural form of insulin. If this is true this would be absolutely essential for Type 1 Diabetics to grow as much and often as possible during the later Christian Apocalypse Events.
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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

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There's that squirt on cheese that comes in a presurized can to squirt on crackers (bacon flavored)...and velveta doesn't need to be fridgitated until it's opened.

Then you have that cheese dip in a jar next to the fritos & nacho chips.
 Quoting: Mental Case


NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Neither of those are real cheese - velveeta is water and aluminum. I believe the canned type is too.

Nasty stuff, and aluminum is implicated in Alzheimer's.

[Check your antiperspirant - you may be soaking in aluminum on a daily basis!]
 Quoting: Pooka


I have so many boxes of velveeta in my pantry it’s not funny. During shtf, morale will be just as important as anything else. And what would be more comforting than some yummy Mac n cheese not from a box, hmm?
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Honey is my go to thing when i feel any sickness or anything down at all

can't sleep ? spoon full of honey

 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Honey is is a natural antibiotic. Good for lots of things.
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Honey is my go to thing when i feel any sickness or anything down at all

can't sleep ? spoon full of honey
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Didn't know it's great for sleep, too, but not surprising - it is such a superfood with so many incredible properties. We really need to encourage everyone to buy the real thing.
 Quoting: Pooka


I quite eating or drinking possessed sugars completely a couple years ago. Honey only for sweeteners. Period. 5 Stars OP for a great thread!!
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By the way - honey lasts forever. If it turns to sugar, place container in hot water. Do not microwave as it changes the taste and probably the properties of it, as well.

Keep honey in glass, preferably, and in the dark. If you keep it in plastic, it will take up the taste of anything nearby. Yukky!
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Here’s a link about using colloidal silver to purify water.
 Quoting: aliasx


I love colloidal silver, but for water purification, I like hydrogen peroxide better... and it is crazy cheap.


It is what was used as an antibiotic before what is used today. It is or was used in eye drops when babies are born and the salve is used on burn victims. I have had great success using it for various things and to get rid of an infection from an abscessed tooth I couldn’t get hold of the dentist for. Worked within 24 hours.

I have also given to my kitties. One for a weepy eye and another who was bit from an animal to clear up his infection. In both cases I put few drops in their food a few times a day for 3-5 days. Same with humans although some people take it daily. I only use when needed. Can be used topically as well.
 Quoting: aliasx


Brilliant.

Also check Chlorine Dioxide, Hydrogen Peroxide, and Iodine + Sea Salt Solution for very similar uses.
 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Also great things!
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Honey is my go to thing when i feel any sickness or anything down at all

can't sleep ? spoon full of honey
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Didn't know it's great for sleep, too, but not surprising - it is such a superfood with so many incredible properties. We really need to encourage everyone to buy the real thing.
 Quoting: Pooka


I quite eating or drinking possessed sugars completely a couple years ago. Honey only for sweeteners. Period. 5 Stars OP for a great thread!!
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I have been using a cheap $3 solar/mains rechargeable torch for about a yr. So cheap that the mains part broke after first use lol, however, it is constantly charging in the light and it has been incredibly useful as we get so many power cuts here (daily).

Anyway food preps here are flour, rice, salt, sugar.
The locals grow wheat when not rice and grind for flour and we have sugar cane also nrby.
A useful book on wild edibles would also be handy. Most crops n lots of veg grows wild if you know what to look for. The local women from poorer households are out everyday foraging in the roadsides and by the river for spinach, garlic and other leaf veg, spices n herbs, plus flowers and nettles for eating. It seems crazy but when you see a guy pushing his stall in the city loaded with stinging nettles (same old common nettles the world over) and a que (lol) to buy it then it must be good eating!
I'm considering buying a wind up radio also, just in case shtf scenario hf

Useful thread!
We are used to power outages here, i will see what i can come up with for tips.
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Definitely a book on wild edibles!
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Canned cheese would be my total thing - I adore cheese. We only have a c ouple very small Mexican stores here - price would probably be prohibitive, right?

--------

There's that squirt on cheese that comes in a presurized can to squirt on crackers (bacon flavored)...and velveta doesn't need to be fridgitated until it's opened.

Then you have that cheese dip in a jar next to the fritos & nacho chips.
 Quoting: Mental Case


NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Neither of those are real cheese - velveeta is water and aluminum. I believe the canned type is too.

Nasty stuff, and aluminum is implicated in Alzheimer's.

[Check your antiperspirant - you may be soaking in aluminum on a daily basis!]
 Quoting: Pooka


I have so many boxes of velveeta in my pantry it’s not funny. During shtf, morale will be just as important as anything else. And what would be more comforting than some yummy Mac n cheese not from a box, hmm?
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Good taste, yes. Nutrition - not a bit. However, we each need something we think of as comfort food, and also something that is a treat to us. I'd like to store some candy bars, just as a wonderful treat for occasional use.
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It doesn't cost me a cent to pay attention to the tracks in the snow.

And by doing so...I know that I have several rabbits and squirrels living under my tool shed & behind the wood pile.

Little do they know the diabolical doom I have planned for them if the SHTF!
 Quoting: Mental Case


Teehee
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I would kill something before i ate beans and rice
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I would put something I killed IN the beans and rice lol
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Oh my, yes!

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 Quoting: Anymous Cowboy


Venison is one of the healthiest meats I believe. Little fat.