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Message Subject Practical Prepping Protocol even if Poor
Poster Handle Pooka
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When it comes to an EMP or carrington event or even a faraday cage...nobody can say for certain.

It's all in theory.

I just try to prep for no electricity at all, and that way any electricity will be a blessing.
 Quoting: Mental Case


It is all theory, but I did a lot of research on this subject for an article I wrote for DWS. There was some testing performed on vehicles back in the 80s. The studies found that a majority of vehicles, while sustaining some damage to electronics such as radio or dash instrumentation, would still be capable of starting and being driven normally.

As for other electronics, if they are powered down and not plugged into a power outlet at the time of the event, they may survive the pulse. Any device that is plugged into a household outlet will almost certainly be destroyed.

The most important thing to understand is how a nuclear EMP is broken down into three components - E1, E2, and E3 - and how each component can affect various electronics.

Only a nuclear detonation will produce all three components. The E2 component is very similar in effect as a bolt of lightning hitting your house, and the effects of a massive coronal mass ejection such as the Carrington Event are very similar to the E3 component.

So, my recommendations are as follows:
1: Store a netbook computer or tablet and other small, sensitive electronics in a shielded safe, preferable in a basement or underground shelter area. They should survive all components of an EMP. For instance, in our safe we have a small netbook computer loaded with survival documentation, a GPS unit (which probably won't function if the satellites are knocked out), two "burner" cell phones (which probably won't function if the cellular networks are destroyed), and two shortwave radios for communications.

2: If a nuclear crisis reaches DEFCON 2 level or higher, unplug as many electronics from their outlets in your house as possible. They may survive; they may not, but it's worth the attempt.

3: Don't assume that once an EMP weapon has gone off at high altitude that it's now safe to bring out all of your electronics. Wait until the nuclear exchange has completely halted.

4: Don't just assume your car won't start after an EMP hit. Try to start it and see what happens. Some research indicated that disconnecting the battery from a damaged vehicle for a few minutes then reconnecting it may allow the vehicle to start.

As Mental Case said, prepare as if there is going to be no electricity at all, that way if any electronics survive it's gravy on top of what you're prepared for.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


I am surprised to think a vehicle might start after an EMP, other than one close to fifty years old. Had to sell mine because I couldn't get in and out any more - too high.
 Quoting: Pooka

The odds are actually pretty good. It has to do with the wavelength of the E3 component and lack of anything on a vehicle to conduct energy on that wavelength. Think of it as having an antenna tuned for AM and FM frequencies, but E3 is ELF frequency. So your car doesn't pick up on it.

Don't know anything about burner phones - why did you do that? What do you expect from them? Is it because you have to keep your usual cellphone with you, that would be fried, so just to have any kind of cellphone? What do they cost, and how do they work? I mean - mine is connected through the business online I purchased it from and who supply my connectivity. YOu can tell I barely know how to useit, much less talk about it! LOL I only got it because where I lived until recently was 35 miles from town where all shopping is done, and it's a long, lonely highway, steep ditches on each side of much of it, and tide flats or salt water on either side, depending on tide in or out. Bought it for emergencies and that's all I use it for.

So, you take the burner phones out of the safe and we'll assume power and celltowers suddenly working again. How do you use the phone? It doesn't have your phone number, and isn't connected to whomever supplied your connectivity on your usual phone. Maybe everybody here knows these answers, but I'm betting some are as ignorant as I am.

Thank you very much for all your help in these matters!
 Quoting: Pooka


These phones are prepaid with their own unique numbers and time already on them. The numbers aren't associated with us. Hell, we don't even know what they are because we haven't activated the phones yet. We purchased them from a Meijer clearance rack for $10 each.

And there are two purposes in mind with them. Yes, you are correct that our everyday phones may or may not survive a nuclear EMP, but the burner phones would. If cell coverage gets running again, we might have working phones. But they are also for us to use if the government gets out of control. These phones cannot be traced to us, so we can communicate if we have to. The only information these phones can give away is our location, and we have contingency plans for that I won't specify here.
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


RiffRaff, with your spectacular ideas and plans - we don't even want to know your contingency location plans, really we don't - could you set up our core group with a means of communication after TSHTF? I didn't know these things about burner phones and they might be a good idea, supposing some things are workable some places some times.

I was more thinking CB radio - is that in your wheelhouse? Most of us wouldn't be interested in now investing in MARS purchase, licensing and study. Of course whoever sets up our system may well use MARS as part of it - for example when there is too great a distance between certain members, relay could go through a well-located MARS radio, then back to our system.
 
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