@darth, A cow in the basement?!! we all know that would go over great here in the "land of the free"..lol... but interesting none the less.

I like the root vegetables idea, as they tend to be more shade tolerant and with the GSM season coming upon us, it might be a saving grace.
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I also keep thinking about what we are headed into with the GSM. It seems that in the past it was extreme weather, rain poured and then drought. cold and other extremes mixed in. so my thoughts are to set up the growing land as if it is drought land....it is two fold as it would handle the heavy rains and also the droughts better.

sorry if i am rambling, but the only other option i am seeing is growing indoors, but what if the power grid is fried or not reliable? I am just trying to figure out a way that could be implemented by the many. As We might be the ones that are chosen to teach others, even though they won't hear of it now.


A lot of cultures actually kept livestock on the first floor or in the basement of dwellings because it helped heat the place. Also more secure from thieves.

Ref veggies, I have seen turnips growing even after it snowed a few times here in Texas. When I lived in Germany the Summer temps hovered around 50-60F with a lot of rain. Sunny days were rare.

But they grew potatoes, turnips, rutabagas, beets, cabbages, etc. without a problem. Root veggies provide a LOT of calories/acre too.

Ref saving info after EMP, I recommend:

1. Books and written notes from videos you have watched online.

2. M disc storage. Like a CD but supposedly good for 1000 years. Keep an old computer in the EMP-proof metal trash can wrapped in cardboard and aluminum foil. Will need solar or generator to access your files.

When I upgrade computers I don't throw away my old ones. They are stored in a metal drum in the barn.

BTW, one of my old ideas for emergency TP: I sign up for catalogs and trade magazines which I throw into another steel drum in the barn. US Snail delivers. Can also use for fire starters or keeping the wood stove stoked.

I once knew a guy who lived in a cabin in New Brunswick out in the bush. He reviewed a few books and got the reviews published.

He got so many free books from publishers after that, he heated his cabin with them.