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Does it strike anyone as irresponsible that Delta/American and others still flying over Venezuela? Update *now avoiding

 
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Does it strike anyone as irresponsible that Delta/American and others still flying over Venezuela? Update *now avoiding
I just feel like they are not taking the unrest and USA/Venezuela beef seriously. Or maybe there is no threat at all and it is a big joke? It just seems insane the fly over a country that has so much turmoil in it.

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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.

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That's a really damn good point considering he was shooting off AA guns in a show of military force a few days ago.
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It would take about 4 hours to dust a few of the places where Maduro is hanging out. 4 hours tops.
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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.
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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.
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Which makes a good point...remote fly an American Jet with a fake manifest of Americans and Brits..shoot it down with a SAM from some remote area....perfect setup for the CIA!!!
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nah. because these wankers aren't gonna do squat.
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why there is no war there
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I delivered 3 737s to Venezuela, about 2 years ago, to a new airline. On one of the deliveries, we missed our commercial flight back to MIA and had to stay there overnight. We needed an entire unit of ex-military security personnel to protect us on the way to the hotel, and then back to the airport the next morning.

As for flying in the airspace; it was, and still is, no problem. Airspace is sacred to these failing states. They make a lot of money in over-flight permits so they protect this money flow carefully. The problem is when you have rebel forces with high-altitude-capable anti-aircraft weapons that are not participating in that cash flow. Even then, shooting down an airliner can quickly turn the public opinion on both sides against you...
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I just feel like they are not taking the unrest and USA/Venezuela beef seriously. Or maybe there is no threat at all and it is a big joke? It just seems insane the fly over a country that has so much turmoil in it.
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it's a joke...fake reality.
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Latino marxist Madura featured in MPG2 brown commie guy drowning in green goo [link to heliofant.com] scripted!
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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.
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he might bomb austria too.
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No, many are aware and red pilled on how the world is just theater and both sides of every conflict are controlled by one group.

Watch how after we move on Venez. Russia / China won't do a thing except perhaps sanctions. Everything, everything is fixed and scripted.
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why there is no war there
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first us needs to reinstate Draft then War begins
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Smells like a convenient setup
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I delivered 3 737s to Venezuela, about 2 years ago, to a new airline. On one of the deliveries, we missed our commercial flight back to MIA and had to stay there overnight. We needed an entire unit of ex-military security personnel to protect us on the way to the hotel, and then back to the airport the next morning.

As for flying in the airspace; it was, and still is, no problem. Airspace is sacred to these failing states. They make a lot of money in over-flight permits so they protect this money flow carefully. The problem is when you have rebel forces with high-altitude-capable anti-aircraft weapons that are not participating in that cash flow. Even then, shooting down an airliner can quickly turn the public opinion on both sides against you...
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Thank you for your input.

There are US civilian airliners flying inside the Iranian air space every day of the year.

Not sure about US military aircraft. Maybe they do too. U-2 or other.
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why there is no war there
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first us needs to reinstate Draft then War begins
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gosh.

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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


Which makes a good point...remote fly an American Jet with a fake manifest of Americans and Brits..shoot it down with a SAM from some remote area....perfect setup for the CIA!!!
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Not even that far fetched, sadly
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Have they found MH370 yet?
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Re: Does it strike anyone as irresponsible that Delta/American and others still flying over Venezuela? Update *now avoiding
NO!

During the height of the Cold War US airlines flew over Cuba EVERY DAY, and still do today. (in fact the US supplied Cuba with it's radios and even it's air traffic control radar as I recall for it's Air Traffic Control System just so airlines could do those overflights, even during the cold war - we did that since Cuba could not afford the equipment)

Civilian Aviation overflights of countries that are somewhat opposed to each other have been a regular fixture of Aviation for decades. Russia, China, North Korea, and during the Vietnam War, North Vietnam have been the only large exceptions to those overflghts over the last 70 years.
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If they shot down an American airliner, Trump would bomb Caracas and grab the oil fields. They know better than to do that.
 Quoting: Crypto-Tard


the US is handed all the America's anyways... don't you know the deal went down?

you act like this is something new that you just heard about?

we can wait for the commies superstars, the Chinese or Russians to fook it all up first though..
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No it does not do that to me.
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I delivered 3 737s to Venezuela, about 2 years ago, to a new airline. On one of the deliveries, we missed our commercial flight back to MIA and had to stay there overnight. We needed an entire unit of ex-military security personnel to protect us on the way to the hotel, and then back to the airport the next morning.

As for flying in the airspace; it was, and still is, no problem. Airspace is sacred to these failing states. They make a lot of money in over-flight permits so they protect this money flow carefully. The problem is when you have rebel forces with high-altitude-capable anti-aircraft weapons that are not participating in that cash flow. Even then, shooting down an airliner can quickly turn the public opinion on both sides against you...
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cash is king, even marx agreed.
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Update: some United and American flights appear to be avoiding Venezuelan airspace