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This reality is actually hell. Prove me wrong.

 
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This reality is actually Hell.

You can never be truly happy in this realm and if you think you are then you’ve only mastered the art of self deception as a form of anesthesia for yor soul to cope.

You come into this world desiring and craving.

You leave this world desiring and craving.

Like tormented, hungry ghosts we roam through life in never ending agony and lusting always seeking, forever striving for all that we can nevr truly attain but for fleeting moments that will vanish from memory and time sooner than ater and fade back into the abyss from which we all came.

We seek religion and for saviors just as the rich man begged God for a drop of water to cool his parched tongue, but yet God remains silent unless we manufacture an answer from our own subconscious minds out of desperation; fashioning a god in our own image to leep us from the crushing reality that we are truly alone here.

Prove me wrong if you can.

Otherwise admit it here and now.

Give up searching for Heaven on Earth because you lost that long ago.

Let go.

Embrace the only Truth that you can actually acknowledge in your feeble and pathetic human minds.

Stop pretending.

Wherever you go, there you are.
 Quoting: unpopular opinion 77309703


Well I would prove you wrong if you had actually made a legit effort to prove your case but instead you just spouted vague platitudes of your "Opinion" based on your own beliefs that evidently are based on absolutely no material observation.


I know one thing for sure and that is that we all will die one day and we will all find out one way or another what happens afterwards if anything at all.

My belief is there is a Heaven and a Hell and when my physical body dies I know where I am going because I already made that decision to ask forgiveness for my sin and accept Jesus "The Christ" as my savior.
If I am completely wrong which I am 99.9% sure I am not, nothing will happen after I die.

On the other hand if you are wrong it will be too late for you to get out of the direction you are going in the afterlife if you had not repented and accepted Jesus "The Christ" as your savior.

 Quoting: RobertNpc


No One has to repent under Jesus Christ,..ya brainwashed Snowflake.
I
Don't worry about it now Snowflake,..and be very proud of your Family Legacy.

You and your Family will receive... "Just Rewards".cool2stoner
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I won't pretend that i know what
Hell or Heaven is.
BUT
I know that in this reality.
Most of the time we have a choice
for it to see good or evil.
Joy or misery.
Love or Hate.
Etc etc etc.
Last night i attended a group
that i belong to. All are welcome
and all are invited to speak their
truth.
BUT
No one can discount Another's truth.
As usual it was an amazing experience.
There were those who talked about
enjoying the beauty and wonders of
this world we live on.
And there were those who only saw the
hate and ugliness and oddly enough
seemed to be enjoying wallowing in it.
Only a few changed camps.
And every one left happy that they
had met others of like mind.
Fact is that we have a choice.
We can see beauty and joy
OR
we can see ugly and misery.
Many minorities are waking up to
this choice.
And in my opinion eventually move
on to a reality of beauty and joy.
While the the ones who don't get it.
Will keep reincarnating until they
DO !!!
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Yes, and it's only as you grow older, you realise that it is hell here.

We protect our children from all the 'bad stuff' in the world, but we all leave home, and start to see it all, experience it, then things change.

Reality sets in, some choose denial and live in a fantasy land, some don't.

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By donting you are letting it get to you. Seek solutions instead.
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Fuck, now that's a real oldy. LOL

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Fact is that we have a choice.
We can see beauty and joy
OR
we can see ugly and misery.

 Quoting: grover 76326459


Maybe if you didn't drip acid in their eyes?
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No One has to repent under Jesus Christ,..ya brainwashed Snowflake.
I
Don't worry about it now Snowflake,..and be very proud of your Family Legacy.

You and your Family will receive... "Just Rewards".cool2stoner
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The Christians are letting their children camp and drink water on sites that are giving the ministers kidney stones and heart failure, I do suggest filters
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I won't pretend that i know what
Hell or Heaven is.
BUT
I know that in this reality.
Most of the time we have a choice
for it to see good or evil.
Joy or misery.
Love or Hate.
Etc etc etc.
Last night i attended a group
that i belong to. All are welcome
and all are invited to speak their
truth.
BUT
No one can discount Another's truth.
As usual it was an amazing experience.
There were those who talked about
enjoying the beauty and wonders of
this world we live on.
And there were those who only saw the
hate and ugliness and oddly enough
seemed to be enjoying wallowing in it.
Only a few changed camps.
And every one left happy that they
had met others of like mind.
Fact is that we have a choice.
We can see beauty and joy
OR
we can see ugly and misery.
Many minorities are waking up to
this choice.
And in my opinion eventually move
on to a reality of beauty and joy.
While the the ones who don't get it.
Will keep reincarnating until they
DO !!!
 Quoting: grover 76326459



Come back and tell us all about the beauty and joy, when a loved one is dying slowly and painfully,
or when you see a child being raped,
or someone severed in a bad car accident,
or . . a million other fucked up things that happen every minute, of every day, day after day, year after year, outside of your little cocoon

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Here's the GOOD NEWS:

Jesus has the keys of hell AND death.
He knows the way out, He prepared a place for us in His Father's Kingdom.
 Quoting: FreakAzoid


You been having a relationship with the Biblical Boogy man.

It has always been about You, and what You have accomplished throughout
your whole life!

You shall Reap what U have Sown.

Only the "Meek" and "Benevolent", by the way,.. who are never violent, shall inherit the Earth.hf


You can give your floggin' Jesus…."the Message"


Cheer's, UNcleHexy :)
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Don't be surprised.
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I'm so insanely violent I want the perp to get on a gluten free diet and see if it helps their inability to feel normal human emotions.
What do I plan to do, torture them by taking away their bread?

And you threaten me with a kiddie porn charge. Have you gone crazy?
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Hell will have no pleasure whatsoever

there's plenty of pleasure to be found in the here and now
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How silly.

Some things like tormenting other things, so even in your limited version of hell, there would be plenty of pleasure for evil things to enjoy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76638891


Hell will be personalized / tailored to each individual

Hell is everlasting solitary confinement, torment, condemnation, shame, contempt, guilt, etc.

Hell is where you will remember for all eternity every opportunity to do what is right and chose not to, every person you wronged, etc.

there is no escaping the mind and the memories in hell because that's all there is,
the wrath of the Almighty poured out upon every individual there in complete total isolation, in complete total darkness forever
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You literally just described the living experience of 98% of the people walking around on earth my dude lol

Made even worse by modern technology which puts people in an even deeper prison and solitary confinement

You proved OPs point and you didn't even realize it

Remember Jesus said not everyone here is of the father or meant to go back to him
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This world is hellish, yes.

Is it getting worse? Yes.

Is this actually hell? No, I don’t believe so.

Increased depravity and denial of tough parenting and the onslaught of terrible teachers have made a generation of idiots that are programmed to readily accept anything as being okay.

Now that they are having kids also, we’re on the slippery slope that will bring down our society. There are some good people teaching values still the old fashioned way. But are now too far in between to move the needle back toward sanity.

God Bless, and the best of luck to you all.
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Some of the elite are still having fun making life miserable for others. It is their pain and suffering that hell exists for. The new elect will not even be cheering, they will simply have better things to do.

Jer:25:33-38:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Howl,
ye shepherds,
and cry;
and wallow yourselves in the ashes,
ye principal of the flock:
for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished;
and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.
And the shepherds shall have no way to flee,
nor the principal of the flock to escape.
A voice of the cry of the shepherds,
and an howling of the principal of the flock,
shall be heard:
for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.
And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the LORD.
He hath forsaken his covert,
as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor,
and because of his fierce anger.
Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
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A beautiful song from "Talk Talk" matches exactly my point of view: Life IS what you make it!

"Hell" is the lack of light, the shadow. But light can't cast a shadow. Only the obstacle is casting it!

We are the obstacle, because we forgot where we're all from and where we go!

Just think.


"Life's What You Make It"

Baby, life's what you make it
Can't escape it
Baby, yesterday's favourite
Don't you hate it?

(Everything's all right)
Life's what you make it
(Everything's all right)

Baby, life's what you make it
Don't backdate it
Baby, don't try to shade it
Beauty is naked

(Everything's all right)
Life's what you make it
(Everything's all right)
What you make it

Baby, life's what you make it
Celebrate it
Anticipate it
Yesterday's faded
Nothing can change it
Life's what you make it

(Everything's all right)
Life's what you make it
(Everything's all right)
Life's what you make it
(Everything's all right)
(Everything's all right)
(Everything's all right)
Make it, make it
(Everything's all right)
Life's what you make it
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This world is hellish, yes.

Is it getting worse? Yes.

Is this actually hell? No, I don’t believe so.

Increased depravity and denial of tough parenting and the onslaught of terrible teachers have made a generation of idiots that are programmed to readily accept anything as being okay.

Now that they are having kids also, we’re on the slippery slope that will bring down our society. There are some good people teaching values still the old fashioned way. But are now too far in between to move the needle back toward sanity.

God Bless, and the best of luck to you all.
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The Bible says Satan is ruler of this world

How could it NOT be hell??

That's what organized religion DOESNT want to tell you

Because if they did everyone would be out in the wilderness together on their knees praying to God and screaming to the heavens to get the f out and for mercy. They would do anything to be free from hell. The whole world would stop

Anything given to us that constitutes survival or comfortability is created for us by man made society. Otherwise we'd be living in dung huts practically starving. Basically a Bush man's existence

I don't think people who live in the first world really understand the depths of darkness, depravity and suffering the third world is living through...including children.

AND THAT IS BASICALY OVER 90% OF PLANET!!!!

America, Europe, Japan...that's such a tiny portion of the Earths population

And even they have much suffering and destitution

Even the rich and wealthy are tormented tremendously. It's just a different kind and a different level

At best this is some horrible level of purgatory
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If you have knowledge, let others light their candles in it.
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It’s all in the mind. I read what sounds like outter search for inner peace
If you propose there’s no heaven or earth and that this is hell. Well then you are also saying that there is a heaven and Earth so you already are contradicting yourself.
You sound lost and confused wich is normal
Find yourself. Happiness is just Peace in motion.

I believe that we are blind and delusional to begin with. Add programming and false perceptions and you have your Hell sir or man. Live what you would want your existence to be like and that is all you can do
Also
Please do us a favor tho.when you Die.
Come back and tell us if your theory was right . We are all just theorizing. Some with faith. Some without. Some with beliefs. Some with out.
Are you someone who is “With”. Or are you someone who is “Without”
If your answer is “With”. Then you don’t fully believe what you have proposed and maybe just more of a existential venting.
If you say your someone “Without”
Well then. Maybe you are living in Hell.

I pray Yahweh ,Jesus Christ fills you with the Holy Spirit and encourages you. Much love And blessings.
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This world is hellish, yes.

Is it getting worse? Yes.

Is this actually hell? No, I don’t believe so.

Increased depravity and denial of tough parenting and the onslaught of terrible teachers have made a generation of idiots that are programmed to readily accept anything as being okay.

Now that they are having kids also, we’re on the slippery slope that will bring down our society. There are some good people teaching values still the old fashioned way. But are now too far in between to move the needle back toward sanity.

God Bless, and the best of luck to you all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76433488


The Bible says Satan is ruler of this world

How could it NOT be hell??

That's what organized religion DOESNT want to tell you

Because if they did everyone would be out in the wilderness together on their knees praying to God and screaming to the heavens to get the f out and for mercy. They would do anything to be free from hell. The whole world would stop

Anything given to us that constitutes survival or comfortability is created for us by man made society. Otherwise we'd be living in dung huts practically starving. Basically a Bush man's existence

I don't think people who live in the first world really understand the depths of darkness, depravity and suffering the third world is living through...including children.

AND THAT IS BASICALY OVER 90% OF PLANET!!!!

America, Europe, Japan...that's such a tiny portion of the Earths population

And even they have much suffering and destitution

Even the rich and wealthy are tormented tremendously. It's just a different kind and a different level

At best this is some horrible level of purgatory
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75842623


Brother, you don’t have to tell me how bad things are :)

If I told you everything I’ve been through, it would make your toes curl. Nobody deserves to go through the kind of shit that I’ve been subjected to. I wouldn’t want what happened to me, to happen to my worst enemy. Life has been very cruel.

My only saving grace is that I know that for all the shit I’ve been through, someone else has had it even worse, which I can’t fathom.
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Reality is what you make it.

Here's a secret.

As above so below actually means quite a bit.

Basically what you call real life is or can be hell.

I'm particularly advanced at lucid dreaming.

So, the trick is to wake up whenever you want in both realities. Such as a dream, you can shape any reality you find yourself in.

I'm not saying it's easy. You may even need to live in the woods for a while or something extreme like that.

I'm currently practicing minimalistic consumerism, if that's something lol.

Last Edited by ET SF on 06/19/2019 04:17 PM
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You're wrong. It's fucking hell.
"If you can't laugh at yourself, then I will."
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The fact is we're just animals. No other animal excite anything.

There's no expectations for immortality. No expectations for "deliverance". No expectations for fairness.

They live life. They get out of it what they put in. Make a bad choice and it is usually fatal. There is no blame for this.

Humans are the only animals that expect to co-God with God.

Or you wallow in self pity. Guilt is a means of controlling you. You do into others. But only as far as they Do into you.
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Should've picked Easy option instead Nightmare before you were born.
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this place is between heaven and hell, it is not hell but it sure seems to be because we have not been to hell.

if you had been to hell, this is paradise by comparison.

having never been to hell this place sure seems like hell.



God is real, he is not leaving us on our own. If he were to leave us this place would truly be hell with not a moments rest.


we do have rest in this world, abeit not enough, but rest none the less.


i agree that this place is a prison and i long to leave this world. though it does seem like hell, it is not, but having not been to hell, this is hell.


if that makes sense.
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OP is correct.

Hell is simply the absence of God.

Hell and Heaven are not two separate places. They are the same place.

Earth absent God is Hell. All that is required to turn Hell into Heaven is His (NOT Jesus!) presence.

o)<

mike
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Should've picked Easy option instead Nightmare before you were born.
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LOL! Imagine waking up one day to a VR headset being shut off, and you’re back in your actual reality.

I’d punch whatever fucker in the face who told me to play this game.
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Should've picked Easy option instead Nightmare before you were born.
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LOL! Imagine waking up one day to a VR headset being shut off, and you’re back in your actual reality.

I’d punch whatever fucker in the face who told me to play this game.
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the stars which are wheels within wheels which spin about in a fixed circuit contain the souls of hundreds of thousands.

in a similar manner to what you describe, the stars are the container for this experience.
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when the stars fall down to the earth, we go up.

stars down.

us up.

those still here - bottoms up.
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Should've picked Easy option instead Nightmare before you were born.
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LOL! Imagine waking up one day to a VR headset being shut off, and you’re back in your actual reality.

I’d punch whatever fucker in the face who told me to play this game.
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reminds me of a dream i had, i was in a dark room, with other people who had a VR type goggles on

i simply took mine off, and saw lots of people with the VR goggle on ..

what i saw was there were beings looking at us, and basically observing us.. and they were surprised that i simply took my goggles off and i was looking at them.
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The fact is we're just animals. No other animal excite anything.


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Nothing is "Just".If we let the trees talk they would march on us again.
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Re: This reality is actually hell. Prove me wrong.
I won't pretend that i know what
Hell or Heaven is.
BUT
I know that in this reality.
Most of the time we have a choice
for it to see good or evil.
Joy or misery.
Love or Hate.
Etc etc etc.
Last night i attended a group
that i belong to. All are welcome
and all are invited to speak their
truth.
BUT
No one can discount Another's truth.
As usual it was an amazing experience.
There were those who talked about
enjoying the beauty and wonders of
this world we live on.
And there were those who only saw the
hate and ugliness and oddly enough
seemed to be enjoying wallowing in it.
Only a few changed camps.
And every one left happy that they
had met others of like mind.
Fact is that we have a choice.
We can see beauty and joy
OR
we can see ugly and misery.
Many minorities are waking up to
this choice.
And in my opinion eventually move
on to a reality of beauty and joy.
While the the ones who don't get it.
Will keep reincarnating until they
DO !!!
 Quoting: grover 76326459

ignoring hate and ugliness is what got us exactly where we are. only the brave can stare darkness in its eyes. if my grandparents where less brain washed by religion and the 'positive thinking' crowd i wouldn't or we wouldn't be where we are today. positive thinkers sweep the ugly under the carpet. many call themselves Christians but fail the main precept of the Christ LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THEMSELVES.
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OP is right.

Eternal torment works better with bits of wispy happiness thrown in. If it was ALL BAD that would become normal, and the suffering would go away.

I figured this out years ago.

We're In Hell, and you're all the demons.
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I owe you a drink if we ever cross paths.

cheers

Doesnt it feel good to speak the truth for once?

Shatter their perceptions, AC.

Tear down their feeble house of cards they built to protect them from the inevitable realization that the very thing they’ve feared all this time is very much already here, it has already happened. Literally the WORST part of it is over.
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Oh, how edgy are we.applause2





GLP