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Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?

 
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Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
So we are already past the point of no return?



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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.

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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
the permafrost and ocean bottoms are ticking time bombs.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
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'Mother nature' has her ways of fighting for the survival of 'her' biosphere?
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane lingers in the Atmosphere for a long time.
and since new Methane is always being pumped in,
yes the Atmosphere could get quite saturated.

the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.}
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
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So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane lingers in the Atmosphere for a long time.
and since new Methane is always being pumped in,
yes the Atmosphere could get quite saturated.
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No, it rapidly oxidizes. See my older post.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane lingers in the Atmosphere for a long time.
and since new Methane is always being pumped in,
yes the Atmosphere could get quite saturated.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


No, it rapidly oxidizes. See my older post.
 Quoting: Icey


the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Don't worry about it. We are headed for a magnetic pole shift in a few years. Many Earthquakes and volcano's will go active. This will pump tons of debris in the air causing an ice age. Then there will be plenty of frozen barrier and permafrost...
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey


So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Don't worry about it. We are headed for a magnetic pole shift in a few years. Many Earthquakes and volcano's will go active. This will pump tons of debris in the air causing an ice age. Then there will be plenty of frozen barrier and permafrost...
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and we'll probly get zapped by a Gamma-Ray Burst.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane lingers in the Atmosphere for a long time.
and since new Methane is always being pumped in,
yes the Atmosphere could get quite saturated.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


No, it rapidly oxidizes. See my older post.
 Quoting: Icey


the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Incorrect.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane lingers in the Atmosphere for a long time.
and since new Methane is always being pumped in,
yes the Atmosphere could get quite saturated.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


No, it rapidly oxidizes. See my older post.
 Quoting: Icey


the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Incorrect.
 Quoting: Icey


so, you think i just pulled that information out of my ass?
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No, it rapidly oxidizes. See my older post.
 Quoting: Icey


the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Incorrect.
 Quoting: Icey


so, you think i just pulled that information out of my ass?
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Yes.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
I read that cow farts contribute to a lot of that methane too. Shouldn't we do something about that?
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
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the half-life of Methane in the Atmosphere is 7 years.
(that's a long time) considering the amount always being
pumped in.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Incorrect.
 Quoting: Icey


so, you think i just pulled that information out of my ass?
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Yes.
 Quoting: Icey


it's a significant contributor, but not large.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey


So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey

So that's why everything is melting?
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey


So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey

So that's why everything is melting?
 Quoting: DGN


No. It's why people like you "think" everything is melting. Welcome to the new ice age.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey


So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey

So that's why everything is melting?
 Quoting: DGN


pay no attention to all these bozos behind the curtain.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
I read that cow farts contribute to a lot of that methane too. Shouldn't we do something about that?
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Yes we should! We could rig up a cow butt backfire inflatable balloon apparatus that would expand on demand then repressurize the cows when they're not looking and blast them on up to the Man on the moon, like the Apollo astronuts.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Don't worry about it. We are headed for a magnetic pole shift in a few years. Many Earthquakes and volcano's will go active. This will pump tons of debris in the air causing an ice age. Then there will be plenty of frozen barrier and permafrost...
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See?

Always look on the bright side of doom.

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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Let's HOPE that permafrost is melting. We could grow food on that land if it warms up a bit! Worms and insects can live there.

But find a way to harvest that natgas rather than wasting it.
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So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey

So that's why everything is melting?
 Quoting: DGN


pay no attention to all these bozos behind the curtain.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


But... aren't they climate wizards?

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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
I read that cow farts contribute to a lot of that methane too. Shouldn't we do something about that?
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Cattle produce more greenhouse gasses than all the vehicles in the world.


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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
OP's lack of any scientific knowledge is laughable.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
Methane cannot cause warming. It dos not exist for long. It readily oxidizes to form water and CO2. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas but a vital component of life and CO2 is a harmless plant food and not a greenhouse gas at all. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey


So should we accelerate melting of the permafrost for the biosphere?
 Quoting: DGN


Just turn off your TV and the bullshit goes away. The arctic is cooling along with the rest of the planet. Welcome to the new ice age.
 Quoting: Icey

So that's why everything is melting?
 Quoting: DGN


What's melting? The ground is getting colder, here in the NYC area.

I have a compost pit in my yard. (compost pile? It's neither pile nor pit really, I add stuff and smash it down and cover it, and it all stays about ground level) Most winters I can dig in it to put in new vegetable waste, for almost all of the winter unless we get very cold temperatures. This year the air temperature was actually above normal, it's been a mild winter, but half the time I have been unable to dig in the compost pit.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
OP's lack of any scientific knowledge is laughable.
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Very educational reply.
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OP's lack of any scientific knowledge is laughable.
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Very educational reply.
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Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: Methane, 100 times worse than Co2 atmospheric warming. How much frozen barrier do we have left in the permafrost?
We live on a ball of molten rock, and have a ball of whatever shining on us, and somehow cow burps make a difference here?
Water vapor and clouds are the main greenhouse gases.
The amount of clouds are modulated by the strengths of the magnetic fields shielding us from cosmic rays.





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