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Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?

 
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Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
Shouldn't they have gradually lifted the model to simulate rocket thrust rather than blowing it up with explosives, and throw some dust under it?


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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I wish you would just stick to your creationist bullshit. You are out of your depth here, junior.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I wish you would just stick to your creationist bullshit. You are out of your depth here, junior.
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I like the dynamite lift off, much easier than trying ti fit a flare.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I saw dust. What's the prob?
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I saw dust. What's the prob?
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It's not from the 'moon' but from the explosion. In a real LEM liftoff an explosion big enough would have blown the whole thing up and flipped it any which way. They should have tried to fit it with flare than raise it slowly with wire from the stage ceiling.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
A fireworks fountain facing down, then pulling the model up slowly as it would have floated down slowly could have worked out well.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
The real problem with the moon landings is not that they are clearly faked and that today the fakery is laughably poor.
It's not even that every single aspect is fake and can be taken apart even by a small child.

The real problem NASA have (apart from the obvious one of having to fight their own illusory past) is that the whole 'we landed on the moon half a century ago' story has now become extremely boring plus the millennial generation really has no reason to care.

Apathy, derision and being ignored are far greater threats to NASA's efforts to spin their moon fantasy than they fact they can't prove a single one of their claims and they have been caught destroying evidence such as the original video tapes and telemetry data: i.e. the detailed proof.

It also doesn't help their case that the US authorities are working hard to teach the world that they are compulsive liars and cheats, and that they are causing so much suffering that even if it was true no one would care either. It's tricky to care about lunar exploration when you're shivering in a tent city wondering where your middle class lifestyle went, or huddling in the wreck of your city with bombs and missiles of 'freedom and democracy' raining down.

The NASA moon mission is completely fake: that's a simple fact, but it has less importance than both sides think it does, it's just another lie.

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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
The real problem with the moon landings is not that they are clearly faked and that today the fakery is laughably poor.
It's not even that every single aspect is fake and can be taken apart even by a small child.

The real problem NASA have (apart from the obvious one of having to fight their own illusory past) is that the whole 'we landed on the moon half a century ago' story has now become extremely boring plus the millennial generation really has no reason to care.

Apathy, derision and being ignored are far greater threats to NASA's efforts to spin their moon fantasy than they fact they can't prove a single one of their claims and they have been caught destroying evidence such as the original video tapes and telemetry data: i.e. the detailed proof.

It also doesn't help their case that the US authorities are working hard to teach the world that they are compulsive liars and cheats, and that they are causing so much suffering that even if it was true no one would care either. It's tricky to care about lunar exploration when you're shivering in a tent city wondering where your middle class lifestyle went, or huddling in the wreck of your city with bombs and missiles of 'freedom and democracy' raining down.

The NASA moon mission is completely fake: that's a simple fact, but it has less importance than both sides think it does, it's just another lie.
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And, wondering which town is scheduled for the next directed energy weapons display of power.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I was on the fence until an HVAC engineer took apart the refrigeration/heating issues in a vacuum lol.

The second issue was computer processing capability from both a hardware and software side...then all the programming code "disappeared" with as much legitimacy as a klinton "suicide"...two to the back of the head type thing.

Bottom line...it were all a lie, Billy....a beautiful, stinking lie
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
it is super interesting how the retro-rocket doesnt kick up any dust. Thats the one that throws me the most.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
it is super interesting how the retro-rocket doesnt kick up any dust. Thats the one that throws me the most.
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I like how on some of the filmings the 'moon' is only 50' across, then no stars.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I saw dust. What's the prob?
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lil poof don't count...


oh, and enjoy this thread before astro dawg comes and pisses all over it...

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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
it is super interesting how the retro-rocket doesnt kick up any dust. Thats the one that throws me the most.
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it's in a vacuum...what would cause billowing of dust in a vacuum...it just streamed straight out radially from the impact point at high speed until engine shutdown.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
some other countries have sent probes to lunar orbit. They have photos of the remaining equipment at the landing sites. The photos were made well before Photoshop even existed.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
it is super interesting how the retro-rocket doesnt kick up any dust. Thats the one that throws me the most.
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it's in a vacuum...what would cause billowing of dust in a vacuum...it just streamed straight out radially from the impact point at high speed until engine shutdown.
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They didn't even try to at least fake slow rocket thrust liftoff, they just an M80 under a toy and detonated it.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
Check out the hang time of the dust from the Rovers wheels in one sixth gravity. Six times longer or same as earth?
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
Check out the hang time of the dust from the Rovers wheels in one sixth gravity. Six times longer or same as earth?
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for the slow wheel speeds, definitely higher and longer than on Earth and no signs of atmosphere.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
We went to the Moon.

a.) Look at how many people were involved. Wouldn't someone have spilled the beans if it were faked?

b.) Russia would have called BS on the moon program if it were faked.

c.) Why is it so hard to believe that we went? It isn't beyond comprehension that we had the technology at the time to do it.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
How does that little booger have enough fuel to reach escape velocity of the moon(Approximately 5K MPH)?
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
We went to the Moon.

a.) Look at how many people were involved. Wouldn't someone have spilled the beans if it were faked?

b.) Russia would have called BS on the moon program if it were faked.

c.) Why is it so hard to believe that we went? It isn't beyond comprehension that we had the technology at the time to do it.
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Because the evidence suggests otherwise.

I do believe we went to the moon, but not with the Apollo Missions. That was all a cover and faked to hide the real Tech.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
How does that little booger have enough fuel to reach escape velocity of the moon(Approximately 5K MPH)?
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no air resistance helps. leaving behind the descent stage also helps. Plus they didn't reach escape velocity of the Moon. they only had to reach orbit. the math shows they had the fuel necessary.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
How does that little booger have enough fuel to reach escape velocity of the moon(Approximately 5K MPH)?
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no air resistance helps. leaving behind the descent stage also helps. Plus they didn't reach escape velocity of the Moon. they only had to reach orbit. the math shows they had the fuel necessary.
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No slow rising liftoff thrust,just an M80 blasted under a toy model pulled up by ceiling wire.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
How does that little booger have enough fuel to reach escape velocity of the moon(Approximately 5K MPH)?
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no air resistance helps. leaving behind the descent stage also helps. Plus they didn't reach escape velocity of the Moon. they only had to reach orbit. the math shows they had the fuel necessary.
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uh no. If they didn't reach escape velocity they would still be "orbiting"!
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
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There's a key part in this article where he mentions the Van Allen radiation belts. There are recent videos of NASA Engineers still trying to solve the problem of the Van Allen radiation belts. It was never solved and if the Astronauts had gone through the Van Allen radiation belts it would have killed them quickly.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
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There's a key part in this article where he mentions the Van Allen radiation belts. There are recent videos of NASA Engineers still trying to solve the problem of the Van Allen radiation belts. It was never solved and if the Astronauts had gone through the Van Allen radiation belts it would have killed them quickly.
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No no now that doesn't count, what do NASA Orion guidance engineers know about space travel and besides the original data records proving 'moon' landing have all been misplaced.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
So, here's a question...

Who went back to get the tape? They took off, leaving the camera filming them behind.

Don't tell me they had wireless video technology in 1972.

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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
I don't think the moon is something we can even land on. Lots of evidence it is some sort of projection on the firmament dome.

It often looks translucent:

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The "lunar wave" is pretty intriguing too -- implies a digital/projected image.


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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
How does that little booger have enough fuel to reach escape velocity of the moon(Approximately 5K MPH)?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77322868


no air resistance helps. leaving behind the descent stage also helps. Plus they didn't reach escape velocity of the Moon. they only had to reach orbit. the math shows they had the fuel necessary.
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uh no. If they didn't reach escape velocity they would still be "orbiting"!
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see? The HBs don't even understand the methods and procedures they used to leave the surface...unabashed ignorance...The LM ascent stage lifted off the Moon and entered lunar orbit slightly below the CSM (faster orbit ) ….then they caught up and docked....these rendezvous's and dockings were a big part of the Gemini program mission goals.
After liftoff and docking, the LM ascent stage was jettisoned and the LM was deorbited while the CSM did the TEI and returned to Earth.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
So, here's a question...

Who went back to get the tape? They took off, leaving the camera filming them behind.

Don't tell me they had wireless video technology in 1972.
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Re: Which do you enjoy more, NASA forgetting to rake out the LEM landing blast crater, or the exploding, no thrust no dust take off?
So, here's a question...

Who went back to get the tape? They took off, leaving the camera filming them behind.

Don't tell me they had wireless video technology in 1972.
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uuhhhh, maybe they recorded it on the ground back at Houston? Yes, they had wireless TV signals back then...(see that antennae dish they put up on the surface on every landing mission...??) The CSM also had it's comm/data transmission antenna attached to the SM.