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Unfortunate Incident With My Daughter - Your Help Is Appreciated

 
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Jesus that’s terrible! Is he is prison?
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


Yes, he is. Unfortunately, he is still rambling incoherently and not making any sense as of today and can't even be interviewed about the incident. He's been charged with attempted 1st degree murder, aggravated assault and battery with intent to cause grave bodily harm, criminal threat, possession of a controlled substance, possession of marijuana, and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Apparently he was using heroin and no one even knew about it.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Just kill the beast? He has "ptsd" because he misses doing atrocities. I don't help tjose. Missing the war i understand....the cannibal girl eater fkrs miss THAT. just kill the bastar* for gods sake.
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Jesus that’s terrible! Is he is prison?
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


Yes, he is. Unfortunately, he is still rambling incoherently and not making any sense as of today and can't even be interviewed about the incident. He's been charged with attempted 1st degree murder, aggravated assault and battery with intent to cause grave bodily harm, criminal threat, possession of a controlled substance, possession of marijuana, and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Apparently he was using heroin and no one even knew about it.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


He sounds like a deranged animal, hope he rots in the pen.

Did your daughter have health insurance, those bills can get real big if not.

GL,
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OMG. I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. Right now I can't help. Hopefully later I can. Be thankful that she's still alive. geez. Prayers to you and your daughter.
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Omg, that's terrible! I'm so sorry! I can't imagine the anguish your family must be going through. I'll share the Gofundme page as widely as possible.
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


PTSD is treatable. The boy was using marijuana to increase cortisol. His fucking doctor should have had him on hydrocortisone. The boy was using heroin to avoid bouncing in and out of opiation on state of high arousal. Low dose naltrexone could have eased that.

PTSD can be treated. It is treatable. It is HORMONAL not psychiatric.

He was in a state of disorienting numbness and hyperarousal. It’s February. Mold in heat ducts. Mold from snow melt,. Histamine releases adrenaline. PTSD is a disorder of arousal. Something that would ordinarily make a person a little edgy or irritable shoots PTSD into fight for your life.

Some psychiatrists ought to be burned alive.

PTSD is HORMONAL. If this boy had had his CORTISOL supported...with safe low doses of hydrocortisone that do not suppress adrenal function...

You have to see the health care provided to poor flyover kids to understand...

Some psychiatrists deserve to be burned alive. For situations like this one.
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Jesus that’s terrible! Is he is prison?
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


Yes, he is. Unfortunately, he is still rambling incoherently and not making any sense as of today and can't even be interviewed about the incident. He's been charged with attempted 1st degree murder, aggravated assault and battery with intent to cause grave bodily harm, criminal threat, possession of a controlled substance, possession of marijuana, and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Apparently he was using heroin and no one even knew about it.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


That explains why he's incoherent. He has to come off the drugs first.
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Jesus that’s terrible! Is he is prison?
 Quoting: Miss Bunny Swan


Yes, he is. Unfortunately, he is still rambling incoherently and not making any sense as of today and can't even be interviewed about the incident. He's been charged with attempted 1st degree murder, aggravated assault and battery with intent to cause grave bodily harm, criminal threat, possession of a controlled substance, possession of marijuana, and possession of drug paraphernalia.

Apparently he was using heroin and no one even knew about it.
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Wow.
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not to sound insensitive.. but Holy Shit she survived!? that's a fucking miracle in itself. We wish her a speedy recovery.
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


PTSD is treatable. The boy was using marijuana to increase cortisol. His fucking doctor should have had him on hydrocortisone. The boy was using heroin to avoid bouncing in and out of opiation on state of high arousal. Low dose naltrexone could have eased that.

PTSD can be treated. It is treatable. It is HORMONAL not psychiatric.

He was in a state of disorienting numbness and hyperarousal. It’s February. Mold in heat ducts. Mold from snow melt,. Histamine releases adrenaline. PTSD is a disorder of arousal. Something that would ordinarily make a person a little edgy or irritable shoots PTSD into fight for your life.

Some psychiatrists ought to be burned alive.

PTSD is HORMONAL. If this boy had had his CORTISOL supported...with safe low doses of hydrocortisone that do not suppress adrenal function...

You have to see the health care provided to poor flyover kids to understand...

Some psychiatrists deserve to be burned alive. For situations like this one.
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i don't care who wants to pat them on the butt
and tell them they're a good boy.
if they Murder or Attempt Murder they are Killers. and that's that.
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I know that he received disability from the military for his PTSD but am not aware of his suffering any injuries. I know that he had killed while there and that it had weighed heavily on him. Recently he had begun to hallucinate seeing the dead and saying they were talking to him, but my daughter did not feel threatened by it or him. I only found out about the hallucinations after the fact when she was speaking with the detectives. He was not on meds and to the best of our knowledge he was not prescribed them, but who really knows if he was and just threw the script away.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Do you know if the disability was from his branch of service or from the Department of Veterans affairs? What branch of service was he in?
Did he keep in contact with anyone?

Because of the nature of service in these recent conflicts - many Veterans are suffering in addition to PTSD - brain injuries. In all honesty if he is still babbling in jail I hope they consider medical possibilities and look at his brain.

I would think it might help your daughter in her healing if she knew if something like this was in play. Is she in shock?

Its important she get support right away. She is going to need a lot of emotional support.
 Quoting: Starbird


I'm not sure where the disability came from, but I know he followed up with the VA, so maybe from them. He was infantry in the Army. I'm not sure about whether he kept contact with anyone or not. I personally know so little about his time in Afghanistan because I didn't want to press him. I do know that fireworks really triggered his PTSD badly.

She's not in shock, but she is in so much pain that she doesn't want to address the psychological aspect as yet because she doesn't think she can handle the physical pain that would be caused by becoming emotional and crying. Someone is with her at all times, whether it is me or her father. She knows that she needs to get therapy eventually to deal with this. The whole extended family is just trying to do our best to be there and support her.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


I had read when someone experiences things so horrible and they don’t talk about it like her husband that it keeps the ptsd alive. He kept it all inside and then it welled up when the right drugs were taken or situation arrived. Talk therapy is so necessary. I can understand about your daughter wanting to stay calm so she can heal but she will have to talk about it eventually so she doesn’t get ptsd. Even though it is painful it is so necessary. So glad she has so many rallying around her. You and your husband will have to do some healing as well. Talking about your emotions is so vital so you can keep going for her.
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This is wrong advice. Talk therapy is NOT necessary and can do great harm. PTSD does NOT come of not talking about traumatic experience and talking about it can be injurious.
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Done. Thoughts and prayers.

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Prayers sent. This is why I'm glad I don't have a daughter or kidsabduct
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


I am not saying it is an excuse, it is just provided as explanation for how something so awful could have come to pass. I don't know for certain it was related to the PTSD, but can only speculate. We really have no idea what went so wrong with him. When my daughter entered the apartment he was rambling incoherently and not making any sense whatsoever. She had just spoken with him a couple of hours before and he was normal. He hasn't been coherent since the incident.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Sounds maybe like drug-induced psychosis

He's clearly done permanent damage to his brain
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


I am not saying it is an excuse, it is just provided as explanation for how something so awful could have come to pass. I don't know for certain it was related to the PTSD, but can only speculate. We really have no idea what went so wrong with him. When my daughter entered the apartment he was rambling incoherently and not making any sense whatsoever. She had just spoken with him a couple of hours before and he was normal. He hasn't been coherent since the incident.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Sounds maybe like drug-induced psychosis

He's clearly done permanent damage to his brain
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77337151


Maybe he turned to the Heroin to cope with the PTSD. Could it be he was introduced to Heroin in Afghanistan? Isn't that where the poppy fields are and the main reason the US is there?

What a sad situation all around. I am very sorry for your daughter and also this veteran who didn't get the mental health help he needed.
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


I am not saying it is an excuse, it is just provided as explanation for how something so awful could have come to pass. I don't know for certain it was related to the PTSD, but can only speculate. We really have no idea what went so wrong with him. When my daughter entered the apartment he was rambling incoherently and not making any sense whatsoever. She had just spoken with him a couple of hours before and he was normal. He hasn't been coherent since the incident.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


Sounds maybe like drug-induced psychosis

He's clearly done permanent damage to his brain
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fine. just keep his ass off the streets.
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Hopefully the JAG and the military will contact you through GLP OP as I would like to see them help your daughter and this soldier they owe some healing to. Sorry some of the training and combat produces fucked up men, it's sad what has been asked to be borne by people so young as these.
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Post the police report to the gofundme page. It helps.
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I don't have a copy personally but will see if I can get one and get it posted there. Thanks!
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


sue the attacker in civil court so he can spend
the rest of his life paying your daughter three quarters of his paycheck.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


Good idea.

Also if he's the father of her child, she needs to talk to an attorney ASAP about terminating his parental rights, making a will specifying who should care for her child in case she isn't around, and seeing if she can make a common law marriage claim for his military spousal benefits.

Go to the hospital in person and talk to someone about a payment plan or federal insurance kind of thing. It's a small monthly fee and can cover costs incurred now and in the future.
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People still out here dating as demons are running wild? Your daughter was attacked by a demon manifesting through that mans body. I guarantee he was withdrawling from heroin . That demon completely takes over even the strongest of minds.... Your daughter needs to start having a relationship with CHRIST, she is CLEARLY a targeted individual by demonic entities to keep her away from the light... You can laugh at this all you want, but I bet my life on it, she gets a relationship with CHRIST, her life will be totally positive from there on out... But getting people to have faith these days especially young people that love sex/entertainment, is nearly impossible.... Rot In Peaces BABYLON, it is falling soon!
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Not to be rude or mean or whatever but what the hell does Christ have anything to do with this? Even those who have a close relationship with Christ find themselves in unfortunate situations. Not gonna derail Trust’s purpose of this thread but I will say that I do think that this was a bit out there and uncalled for. Instead why not pray for her instead of saying that she needs to have a relationship with Christ.

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It would be a little more useful to tell Christ about this girl who needs a relationship with Him—and some money in her gofundme too.
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Do you know if the disability was from his branch of service or from the Department of Veterans affairs? What branch of service was he in?
Did he keep in contact with anyone?

Because of the nature of service in these recent conflicts - many Veterans are suffering in addition to PTSD - brain injuries. In all honesty if he is still babbling in jail I hope they consider medical possibilities and look at his brain.

I would think it might help your daughter in her healing if she knew if something like this was in play. Is she in shock?

Its important she get support right away. She is going to need a lot of emotional support.
 Quoting: Starbird


I'm not sure where the disability came from, but I know he followed up with the VA, so maybe from them. He was infantry in the Army. I'm not sure about whether he kept contact with anyone or not. I personally know so little about his time in Afghanistan because I didn't want to press him. I do know that fireworks really triggered his PTSD badly.

She's not in shock, but she is in so much pain that she doesn't want to address the psychological aspect as yet because she doesn't think she can handle the physical pain that would be caused by becoming emotional and crying. Someone is with her at all times, whether it is me or her father. She knows that she needs to get therapy eventually to deal with this. The whole extended family is just trying to do our best to be there and support her.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


I had read when someone experiences things so horrible and they don’t talk about it like her husband that it keeps the ptsd alive. He kept it all inside and then it welled up when the right drugs were taken or situation arrived. Talk therapy is so necessary. I can understand about your daughter wanting to stay calm so she can heal but she will have to talk about it eventually so she doesn’t get ptsd. Even though it is painful it is so necessary. So glad she has so many rallying around her. You and your husband will have to do some healing as well. Talking about your emotions is so vital so you can keep going for her.
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This is wrong advice. Talk therapy is NOT necessary and can do great harm. PTSD does NOT come of not talking about traumatic experience and talking about it can be injurious.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus

So can holding it all inside. Talking does work. It is doing it little by little.
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Paid it forward. My GLP family helped fix my doggie up, I'm sure they will help you. Wish I could donate more to you. Good Luck. Get well to you and your daughter. Had to wait a bit.
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How horrible. I can't begin to imagine all that you are all going through.
I will do what I can and also send healing and prayers and much love.
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Do you know if the disability was from his branch of service or from the Department of Veterans affairs? What branch of service was he in?
Did he keep in contact with anyone?

Because of the nature of service in these recent conflicts - many Veterans are suffering in addition to PTSD - brain injuries. In all honesty if he is still babbling in jail I hope they consider medical possibilities and look at his brain.

I would think it might help your daughter in her healing if she knew if something like this was in play. Is she in shock?

Its important she get support right away. She is going to need a lot of emotional support.
 Quoting: Starbird


I'm not sure where the disability came from, but I know he followed up with the VA, so maybe from them. He was infantry in the Army. I'm not sure about whether he kept contact with anyone or not. I personally know so little about his time in Afghanistan because I didn't want to press him. I do know that fireworks really triggered his PTSD badly.

She's not in shock, but she is in so much pain that she doesn't want to address the psychological aspect as yet because she doesn't think she can handle the physical pain that would be caused by becoming emotional and crying. Someone is with her at all times, whether it is me or her father. She knows that she needs to get therapy eventually to deal with this. The whole extended family is just trying to do our best to be there and support her.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


I had read when someone experiences things so horrible and they don’t talk about it like her husband that it keeps the ptsd alive. He kept it all inside and then it welled up when the right drugs were taken or situation arrived. Talk therapy is so necessary. I can understand about your daughter wanting to stay calm so she can heal but she will have to talk about it eventually so she doesn’t get ptsd. Even though it is painful it is so necessary. So glad she has so many rallying around her. You and your husband will have to do some healing as well. Talking about your emotions is so vital so you can keep going for her.
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This is wrong advice. Talk therapy is NOT necessary and can do great harm. PTSD does NOT come of not talking about traumatic experience and talking about it can be injurious.
 Quoting: Polkahonkus


Here is an article about how there is a place for talk therapy and then more to address the subconscious. If we don’t then the mental becomes physical. I’ve been using things like this to heal myself. It just doesn’t help though to shut down and keep things inside.

[link to www.healthyplace.com (secure)]
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will donate tomorrow, in the mean time, I shared on my facebook page. Prayers!
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Prayers for your daughter and full recovery. PTSD is no way an excuse for demonic behavior.

He needs to see a priest. Needs a good exorcist monk and repent after that.

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My daughter got raped from age 14 by her stepdad.He is in prison now,the police got him before I could.I haven't forgot.Waiting.
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I am sorry for your daughter and wish her as close as possible to a complete recovery, and a long life.

Things like this are what personal bankruptcy was invented for.
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Holy smoke, OP. I'm so sorry! How terrifying.
Goodbye, halcyon days.

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Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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prayer prayer prayer

prayers prayers prayers

pray pray pray

pry pry pry pry pry pry pry

Praying Smiley Praying Smiley Praying Smiley

praiseGod

amen1 amen1 amen1
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bump

Please Lord help and heal this family.
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For a legal “fresh start”, don’t forget that we still have the protection of Chaoter 7 bankruptcy laws out there for situations like this to discharge unsecured debts like medical bills. Never apologize for what one has to do to save one’s family. That’s what the law is there for.
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first of all, PTSD can never be accepted as an excuse
for stabbing or killing someone.
the ex-soldier is the loser in that encounter. fuck him.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


I have ptsd from Afghanistan and Iraq ... that is no excuse

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