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Young People PREFER MUSIC FROM THE 20th CENTURY/1970's - 2000, RATHER THAN THE GARBAGE POP OF TODAY, NEW RESEARCH REVEALS

 
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Know lots that do.
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I think someone else did a study about music today vs. 30-50 yrs ago and found that an alarming % of music today is negative themed as well as the tones are negative, dull and noisy. They have negative tones rather than higher noted positive ones. I think that is the elephant in the living room that no one on this thread has commented on yet
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I just want to add that CLONING TECHNOLOGY plays a part in Modern music's demise.

Back in the "Golden era" of music you didn't have CLONES occupying leading roles like you do today.
In spite of the Individuals consciousness being "downloaded" via the satanic occultic tech,
into the cloned replica,
the consciousness can never and will never reach the heights of creativity afforded it when it is left untampered to operate through the NATURAL BORN BODY it originally occupied and incarnated into via it's Mother's WOMB.
But Satanists will never learn their healthy limits,
and that is ultimately their (much needed) downfall.


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Popular song lyrix have become more negative over time, OTHER studies have consistently shown.

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Popular music is constantly evolving, and the changes it has undergone over the last few decades are quite significant. In this project, I have investigated the changes in sentiment (the positivity/negativity) of popular music lyrix since the 1950s. I wanted to know: has the sentiment of song lyrix evolved along with other musical changes?

For this sentiment analysis, I used four open-source lexicons: AFINN, NRC, Bing, and Syuzhet, all of which were developed by separate research teams. There lexicons, which each comprise of a large set of words and their corresponding human-rated sentiment scores (the positivity/negativity of each word) are all available in the R syuzhet package. Each method works in the same way: a full block of text (which, in this case, represents all of the lyrix of a given song) is separated into individual words based on spacing and punctuation. Each word is examined for its presence in the lexicon; if it is present, then that word is assigned its corresponding score in the lexicon, but if it is not present, the word is not assigned a score. After that, all of the available word-scores in a block of text are averaged to produce a sentiment score for the full block of text.

But what data is necessary to answer this question? What exactly defines the “popularity” of music? This is a subjective concept, so I used two separate (albeit somewhat overlapping) definitions as a proxy for popularity: best-selling songs and best-selling artists.

Best-Selling Songs

For data about the most popular songs, I used a dataset containing the 100 top-selling songs of each year from 1956 to 2015. That dataset was created by Kaylin Walker, a Statistics Masters Student at Concordia College, and it can be downloaded here.
I analyzed every song in the dataset – 5100 total – with all four Sentiment Analysis methods discussed above. However, comparing the scores of songs for each method was not initially possible: the methods have different scales and some methods might rate songs more positively or negatively than others in general. To solve this problem, the sentiment values for each method were converted to z-scores, meaning that the full set of song-scores were centered (so that the mean sentiment score equals 0) and then scaled (so that the standard deviation equals 1). This allows for the four lexicons to be compared against each other accurately. As an representative example, here are the results from the AFINN lexicon, with a simple regression line:

There is a statistically significant downward trend here, and interestingly, it seems to be caused not by the majority of songs, but by a minority of songs in recent decades that are highly negative. There is a great increase in the variance in the sentiment of popular songs, primarily in the downward direction. It is quite interesting that for many years, not one popular song was more than 4 standard deviations below the average, but starting in the 1990’s, this became relatively commonplace.

These same trends are reflected in all four sentiment lexicons (all of them are statistically significant):

But perhaps the highly-negative songs in recent years weren’t actually the most popular; of the top 100 for any given year, most people don’t hear the bottom 50 very often, and likely won’t be able to recognize them. I thought that maybe the songs with negative lyrix populate the lower rankings of the Top 100, perhaps greatly enjoyed by a counter-culture but not by most people (in general, genres like punk and metal often fall into this category). Whether or not a devoted cult-following constitutes “popularity” is up for debate, but it would be unfair to make final conclusions about changes in popular music based only on counter-cultures.

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File this under "fucking obvious."

The real question is -- why is good music being suppressed? And why?
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The 90's made you submissive on purpose!
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I agree except I doubt any young person likes disco. Its the worst music ever made.

Would rather listen to Norwegian death metal while warming myself by the fire of a burning church than hear that crap.
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I agree except I doubt any young person likes disco. Its the worst music ever made.

Would rather listen to Norwegian death metal while warming myself by the fire of a burning church than hear that crap.
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There was good disco.
Blondie comes to mind, and I liked KC and the Sunshine Band, among others.
Disco was much better than today's evil mumble rap shit.
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Millennials prefer BOOMER MUSIC than their own crap they try to call music today






















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This is not Surprising...The Music Industry has taken the Soul out of Music , these days...
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Well it is about time thatbmain stream media admitted and disclosed this fact! Can someone now inform the cRrap darkies that enough is enough?
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Boomer music is the best by far. Romantic, catchy, jazzy, rock, folk songs, classics, music one can dance to, clean the house with it in the background, uplifting and those cowboy 'somebody left me' so-sad songs. It touches ones emotions on many levels which is why it also leaves a lasting impression.
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I agree except I doubt any young person likes disco. Its the worst music ever made.

Would rather listen to Norwegian death metal while warming myself by the fire of a burning church than hear that crap.
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There was good disco.
Blondie comes to mind, and I liked KC and the Sunshine Band, among others.
Disco was much better than today's evil mumble rap shit.
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hesright

Girls liked disco, we liked GIRLS! So we'd dance with them, JUST to get closer (and closer, and closer and closer). It wasn't all bad, and kind of fun, so I tried to explain, in an earlier post: Thread: 1970's TEEN DANCE SHOW FROM PHILA. - GREAT NOSTALGIC VIDEOS OF HOW WE DANCED THEN!





























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As an addendum to the dance angle, guys & gals stopped dancing together as of late, so it seems. Perhaps this has contributed to the lower birth rate, I.M.H.O.
































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Isn't it obvious? The younger generation of today PREFERS music from the 70, 80's, & 90's than they do the current garbage that tries to pass as music today. My theory: HUMAN BEINGS PREFER NON-EVIL, INNOCENT (IN COMPARISON) MUSIC OF YESTERYEAR THAN THE DEMONIC & NASTY, ILLUMINAZI-CONTROLLED, GARBAGE SOUNDS OF TODAY, A NEW STUDY REVEALS:

50% OF ARTICLE, THE REST FOUND HERE:

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Millennials prefer music from 20th century ‘golden age’ to the pop of today, research suggests

Research has suggested that modern music really isn’t as good as the old classics. A study has found that golden oldies stick in millennials’ minds far more than the relatively bland, homogenous pop of today.

A golden age of popular music lasted from the 1960s to the 1990s, academics claimed. Songs from this era proved to be much more memorable than tunes released in the 21st century. Music from the vinyl era is still very popular among young people Scientists tested a group of millennials on their ability to recognise hit records from different decades.

The 643 participants, typically aged 18 to 25, maintained a steady memory of top tunes that came out between 1960 and 1999. In contrast, their memory of 21st-century songs from 2000 to 2015 – while higher overall – diminished rapidly over time.

Lead researcher Dr Pascal Wallisch, from New York University in the US, said: ‘The 1960s to 1990s was a special time in music, reflected by a steady recognition of pieces of that era-even by today’s millennials.’ During this period songs reaching the top of the US Billboard charts were significantly more varied than they were between 2000 to 2015, or the 1940s and 1950s, said the scientists. Even so, certain songs were far more memorable than others, the study found.

Well known examples included ‘When a Man Loves a Woman’ by Percy Sledge (1966), ‘Baby Come Back’ by Player (1977) and ‘The Tide is High’ by Blondie (1980). Others, including ‘Knock Three Times’ by Dawn (1970), ‘I’m Sorry’ by John Denver (1975) and ‘Truly’ by Lionel Richie (1982) were all but forgotten.

Songs selected for the study included those that reached number one on the Billboard Top 100 between 1940 and 1957, and the top slot on the Billboard ‘Hot 100’ from 1958 to 2015.

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I concur. Mainstream modern music is utter trash. That doesnt mean peoole dont make good music anymore. Its just nit handed to you on a silver platter anymore. You guys should check out the stoner rock scene, some pretty amazing stuff there.

But i must say my music playlists are filled with 60s, 70s and 90s music. No 80s though, seems like humanity fucled up in that decade
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My oldest son is 37 and listens to pretty much only rock music from my era...60,s, 70's and on. His wife just bought him tickets to Judas Priest for his birthday. His oldest, my ten year old grandson, loves rock and can listen to the opening music of most old songs and tell you the name of the piece. I listened to country for about ten years, but went back to the rock almost exclusively along with my husband. I still like country too, but the rock is in my soul.
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Study is bullshit though... because the best stuff always comes out first. Pop music was new during this time. The artists were picking the low hanging fruit. The Beatles were literally writing hit songs with three chords. Can't do that today. Why? The easy melodies are all gone. That's the big reason early pop music is more memorable.

Works with anything though.. who are the best scientists and inventors? Galileo, Newton, Faraday.. the guys at the beginning of the scientific revolution were literally doing experiments in their bedrooms. They discovered all the simple stuff. Now you need a billion dollar grant and supercomputers to discover anything. Any wonder why we remember those guys and not someone today on a team of a couple hundred people at MIT?
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why did the tribe destroy everything?
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It's the opposite. The "tribe" were disproportionately responsible for the music of yesteryear that people miss & yearn for today. Even Elvis Presley's first hit songs were written by Jews. "Tin Pan Alley" and Madison Avenue songwriters/music composers were disproportionately of the tribe. You should do some research first instead of $pewing your regular, vomitous hatred on here.
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but they ran the record business into the ground.. you know that?

plus they started the 'Rap' business and you should also know that as well.

I know what I am talking about, prove me wrong.
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Music today is unbelievably shit.

As a measure of how bad it is, think about this.
Even young people today enjoy music from 1970 more than today's. 1970 is almost half a century ago. If you were listening to music in 1970 and yet preferred music a half century previous to that, you would be listening to ancient recordings from the 1920s, the stuff that the flappers were dancing to.
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And some of that stuff rocked hard.



I'd love to something like a George Thorogood version of this.
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For me it would be humiliating, if I would prefer the old music from the 60's-80's. Why, because it would mean my generation is too uninspirational to be noticed and too unattractive to be followed. It would mean automatically that hippies from 60's, meaning my grandpa, meaning old farts music, is something I'd inspire to more then my own youth.

I feel sorry for young people who think old music is better. Anyone doing this got no respect for himself or his own generation.
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why did the tribe destroy everything?
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It's the opposite. The "tribe" were disproportionately responsible for the music of yesteryear that people miss & yearn for today. Even Elvis Presley's first hit songs were written by Jews. "Tin Pan Alley" and Madison Avenue songwriters/music composers were disproportionately of the tribe. You should do some research first instead of $pewing your regular, vomitous hatred on here.
 Quoting: Truth 1818


Leftist members of the Tribe, are promoting the NWO / Socialism and using music as a vehicle to corrupt young minds. Yes, they were involved with Elvis and do you know why ???? THEY USED ELVIS TO SELL BLACK MUSIC TO WHITE KIDS which was the start of pushing degenerate black culture on to white kids. Eminem is the modern day Elvis and is being used for the same reason, the result; Whiggers. Music peaked between mid 1950's up to the end of the 1970's. After that, Hip hop started to make inroads along with techno-pop; there were some great groups in the 80's, but that era was the beginning of the end.
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I'm a millennial myself and I definitely prefer older music to what we have now.
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Thanks.

One only needs to refer to the DELUGE of positive comments by Millennials on ANY youtube video of any rock, pop, r&b, etcetera song of that generation. Overwhelmingly, even 8 to 15 year-olds are commenting that they prefer older music from the 70's & 80's to the garbage (mostly, not all) music of today.








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Listening to Don Mclean or Billy Joel makes me happy. Listening to Bieber makes me want to shoot myself. Been born in the early-mid 90's I don't mind late 90's or early 00's music either. It's a nostalgia thing. Happy memories at the skate station for example.
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It's not just nostalgia, although I'm sure that's a big part of it. The music from the 60s to 90s was objectively better music. It's not all the fault of these modern musicians, though. Yeah, they suck, but the rock 'n' roll genre has been pretty much played out and anything that gets made now is always going to be derivative trash. Pop music, too. There's really nothing that a 25-year-old musician can write that hasn't been done already, and nobody is ever going to match Strawberry Fields, Stairway to Heaven, Purple Haze, or Smells Like Teen Spirit because, well, they've already been written.
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Smells Like Teen Spirit is just a big portion of Blue Oyster Cult's Godzilla

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I just want to add that CLONING TECHNOLOGY plays a part in Modern music's demise.

Back in the "Golden era" of music you didn't have CLONES occupying leading roles like you do today.
In spite of the Individuals consciousness being "downloaded" via the satanic occultic tech,
into the cloned replica,
the consciousness can never and will never reach the heights of creativity afforded it when it is left untampered to operate through the NATURAL BORN BODY it originally occupied and incarnated into via it's Mother's WOMB.
But Satanists will never learn their healthy limits,
and that is ultimately their (much needed) downfall.


book
peace



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I would have thought you were smoking crack a few years ago if I read this - but today - well not so much.

I miss this kind of stuffs ~

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why did the tribe destroy everything?
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It's the opposite. The "tribe" were disproportionately responsible for the music of yesteryear that people miss & yearn for today. Even Elvis Presley's first hit songs were written by Jews. "Tin Pan Alley" and Madison Avenue songwriters/music composers were disproportionately of the tribe. You should do some research first instead of $pewing your regular, vomitous hatred on here.
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It shows that everything is relative...the decay started much earlier, with some exceptions, a few valuable bands and their songs. ( Beatles, Rolling Stones, Jethro Tull, Emerson Lake and Palmer etc.
Compare for instance the music and lyrics of “Something in the way she’s moving” and “D I S C O”.
Classical music we t down, too, as early, as the early 20-th century
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Study is bullshit though... because the best stuff always comes out first. Pop music was new during this time. The artists were picking the low hanging fruit. The Beatles were literally writing hit songs with three chords. Can't do that today. Why? The easy melodies are all gone. That's the big reason early pop music is more memorable.

Works with anything though.. who are the best scientists and inventors? Galileo, Newton, Faraday.. the guys at the beginning of the scientific revolution were literally doing experiments in their bedrooms. They discovered all the simple stuff. Now you need a billion dollar grant and supercomputers to discover anything. Any wonder why we remember those guys and not someone today on a team of a couple hundred people at MIT?
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You’re exactly right. There is no more low hanging fruit. The tree was stripped bare about 15 years ago and now people are shaving off bits of bark and passing it off as fruit.

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People just need talent, ability and a smidge of originality to come up with new music. There was a man that worked in the patent office that quit his job during a slow period. He said the same thing, that all the good inventions had been invented and there was nothing left.
That was in 1924 after the invention of the amplitude modulated radio.
C'mon, there are plenty of ways to arrange and play music. There are more instruments available now for unique sounds. We just need to turn off the tv and get the kids back to real world activity.
Want to know why bands like the Beatles and the Who, the Stones and Cream became stars?
For the money. It was either hit the big time or hit the time clock in some greasy factory.
Look up a Tony Iommi interview- he cut his fingers off working in sheet metal before they went full time with the band.
We spoil the modern kids so much they aren't motivated to innovate.
Jimmy Hendrix had a career, blew everyone's minds and died at the age of 27.
27.
Would Jimmy come out with new tunes today? No sweat.
He had the talent and the ability, put in the hours of endless practice and promoted himself.
No lame excuses are going to fly.
The music sucks because we have stifled creativity and wrapped everyone in bubble wrap.
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I find this interesting. Would have never guessed.