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After the TEOTWAWKI event/the 4 stages of recovery.
I know that there are traditional recovery plans for local disasters, but they won't work because they rely on nearby towns and cities to come help. They have 7 stages of recovery listed here.
[link to reliefweb.int (secure)]

What I am going to talk about is recovery after a SHTF type of situation.


The events in todays news are a sign that things are about to take an abrupt turn for the worst, I like many people "feel" it coming. You can find many videos and post related to prepping and what is coming and how things will break down, take your pick and spin the wheel of doom. I would like to talk about during and after.

Weather it's global, nationwide, or regional it's upon Us and I don't think it can be avoided any longer. I have for years been prepping for this time, as many people have, at this point the actual event is not as important to me as is what comes after.

cucalps

[link to westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com (secure)] When the music stops, an article by M. Bracken in Sept. of 2011. Describes in detail the way things would break down in an American city, and gives a great point of view from a military perspective.

In a SHTF event, It will be very important to keep as low of a profile as possible, I have fought in wars and done others dirty work, and have no patience for the fools in charge to figure out how to stay in power, nor do I think a different group of fools would be better. From time to time the forest must burn to get rid of dead wood and make room for new growth.
The first 12 to 18 months will be when most of the people survive or die.
People will die from hunger, disease, fighting others,and because of everyday things, lack of power for medical equipment, medicines for all kinds of conditions
like a cut becoming infected.

Only by controlling who knows; what you have, where you are, and what your location is, will
give you a better chance at survival.

There won't be an internet to look up the information of " that guy you met online" or the article
you read on making xxxxxx whatever ( so print copies now).



It is very important to blend in at the early stages of a shtf event. you will need to act as if you have nothing and don't know what's going on.

At the start of the event Governments will try to maintain order, give out supplies, and information. You should go to civic meetings, food shelters, and other gatherings to find out who is calling the shots and what their plan is.

foogardnomodrosto
These people who think that they are in charge often will make decisions that are short sighted and dangerous.
When the food supplies runout at the store they will automatically think of confiscating others supplies as a fast short term solution to the problem.


Be careful about what you tell people and if needed spread disinformation to those who pry or press for answers.
If you are aware of the discussions at a townhall meeting then you can suggest ways of meeting the food and water needs before it becomes a problem, and if the decision is made to confiscate supplies, then you will have time to hide your resources before they come.
prepgold

In the months following an event, people will be the biggest danger and not just strangers. It will most likely be the people you know, we all have that one friend or family member who speaks without thinking or dosen't pay attention to who might be listening.










There are 4 stages as I as see it to the collapse and recovery cycle.
1st Stage is the event or events leading to a situation that is beyond the point of recovery. (to normal life as we know it)
In this stage which last form 30 to 90 days there is still some order, some food, some sense that things will return to normal. People will be in shock as they begin to realize the world they knew is gone. The event may have taken out whole crops and make the environment difficult to raise another.

cropevent


2nd Stage is WROL(without rule of law) this stage lasts between 3 months and 3 years. When people realize there is no law, and no civil order then "capital" crimes will sky rocket.

People will settle old scores, and take things that they think they deserve, to include rape of women who rejected and belittled them, or killing the ex husband who used to abuse them. This will not be a time when morals or ethics restrain actions of desperate people. In this time you won't get into arguments you will get into gunfights.
newpc

[link to www.survivaldan101.com] The 6 different types of people that will die first when the shtf



The 3rd Stage of the cycle takes place when the dust starts to settle between 3 to 8 years after the event. During this time groups of survivors live a tribal type of existence, where farming and hunting skills help to keep the group alive.

farmskhuntskil

At this time of the cycle groups will still keep contact with other groups to a minimum with some trade.
Other survivors with skill sets such as medical training,
blacksmiths, will start to rebuild the tools necessary for towns to begin to develop.

trayskilhamrstik



those with some engineering knowledge could salvage some of what was left behind, and with some work repair things to get basic utilities running a simple methane digester could provide fuel or a generator for electricity and cooking/ heating. Teachers could begin to teach children the 3R's that is essential for the 4th stage.


metdomemedig


The 4th stage takes place after the 3rd stage is well established between 8 and 20 years after the event. trade between towns and settlements, rules that are understood between leaders sometimes this takes longer but will eventually become common practice in regions and the rebirth of City States were people refer to themselves as Roman, or Spartan ect.


I realize that this is just my basic plan and there are tons of specific things to add to the plan. my goal is to set the framework up for people just getting started.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble, It's what you know that just ain't so. -Mark Twain

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Thanks for the pin MKjeep.dasbier
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Nice post. I'm glad people are feeling doom again. It's been about 8 years since there was a mass feeling of doom about and that was negated by the QE to infinity program that drove the gold price back down. I personally don't care about my survival and fighting against really bad odds. I am going to join whatever force organizes itself in my area and have a good time until my luck runs out.
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Couldn't have put it better myself Chip.ohyeah
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this1

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Thanks for the pin MKjeep.dasbier
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No prob, good info threads like this need to be seen.
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Nice post. I'm glad people are feeling doom again. It's been about 8 years since there was a mass feeling of doom about and that was negated by the QE to infinity program that drove the gold price back down. I personally don't care about my survival and fighting against really bad odds. I am going to join whatever force organizes itself in my area and have a good time until my luck runs out.
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well then D00M0N-giraffe
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Interesting thread OP.

My wife and I, back 10 years ago, went over a list of things we'd have to do to keep a low profile.

One thing I'd like to add here.

If you don't live on a farm, or some other more remote place, make it look like your place has been ransacked already, so that looters won't go further into your home/compound looking for things.

For this, buy an extra garbage bin and fill it with sporting supplies and other random things from the garage that never gets used. It will still organize things in the garage and hold any longer items (skis, beach umbrellas, etc) upright and in the corner or wherever you place it, still acting as storage. Prepare to spread this outside your garage a few days or weeks after TSHTF and you're hearing reports of looting.

Be ready to break a window or two, somewhere on the house that it won't matter or give way to bad weather.

Your car. Make it look like the best part has been taken already. Leave the front hood open and take the battery out (and secure in your home for later to get away if needed). Leave the doors open and dump the contents of the glove box on the front seat and floor as well as drop the sunshades and open all compartments and trunk.

Doing this, you are giving the illusion and camouflage appearance that your place has already been ransacked or looted and that the best parts have been taken. You can give your place further negative appeal by pull the drainpipe off the house to a slant, knocking the front mailbox off kilter and even making tire tracks across the front lawn first, again, all to give the appearance that the place has been hit. If the weather is good, or you have a spare room, open the window and have some longer blinds on hand so they can flap outside and again, give the appearance that the place has been hit already.

As far as line of defense and alarms you can build in, make use of high lb. test fishing wire and aluminum cans to make trip wire traps and early warning devices so you can load, arm and be ready if you do get a visit. Learn how to make a quick wire battery to doorknob deterrent for any point of entry you want to slow them on AND remember, a door wedge at the bottom of a door is the best place to prevent it from being open, even with much force. Any locking mechanism or similar mid or high on the door can't take the same brute force hit.
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Thanks dasbier
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The technology to pull out of such an event, to provide clean water, heat, and food and alleviate suffering isn't very difficult but it's not widely known.
Wealthy computer programmers and real estate agents, for example, are suddenly completely useless, while somebody capable of making biodiesel is a god.
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ZzZzZz.

same tired shit...

this has to be about the 83083408 thread posted since
the internet came online with the world wide web

ya been watchin' too many doom movies kid
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Interesting thread OP.

My wife and I, back 10 years ago, went over a list of things we'd have to do to keep a low profile.

One thing I'd like to add here.

If you don't live on a farm, or some other more remote place, make it look like your place has been ransacked already, so that looters won't go further into your home/compound looking for things.

For this, buy an extra garbage bin and fill it with sporting supplies and other random things from the garage that never gets used. It will still organize things in the garage and hold any longer items (skis, beach umbrellas, etc) upright and in the corner or wherever you place it, still acting as storage. Prepare to spread this outside your garage a few days or weeks after TSHTF and you're hearing reports of looting.

Be ready to break a window or two, somewhere on the house that it won't matter or give way to bad weather.

Your car. Make it look like the best part has been taken already. Leave the front hood open and take the battery out (and secure in your home for later to get away if needed). Leave the doors open and dump the contents of the glove box on the front seat and floor as well as drop the sunshades and open all compartments and trunk.

Doing this, you are giving the illusion and camouflage appearance that your place has already been ransacked or looted and that the best parts have been taken. You can give your place further negative appeal by pull the drainpipe off the house to a slant, knocking the front mailbox off kilter and even making tire tracks across the front lawn first, again, all to give the appearance that the place has been hit. If the weather is good, or you have a spare room, open the window and have some longer blinds on hand so they can flap outside and again, give the appearance that the place has been hit already.

As far as line of defense and alarms you can build in, make use of high lb. test fishing wire and aluminum cans to make trip wire traps and early warning devices so you can load, arm and be ready if you do get a visit. Learn how to make a quick wire battery to doorknob deterrent for any point of entry you want to slow them on AND remember, a door wedge at the bottom of a door is the best place to prevent it from being open, even with much force. Any locking mechanism or similar mid or high on the door can't take the same brute force hit.
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All very good points that people can use. But I can't stress enough to get out among others and find out what you can. wear dirty clothes and blend in, if your bathed and shaved your giving people information. Always act like a refugee and no one will think your hoarding food and supplies. scheming
It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble, It's what you know that just ain't so. -Mark Twain

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Nice try. Stupid.
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ZzZzZz.

same tired shit...

this has to be about the 83083408 thread posted since
the internet came online with the world wide web

ya been watchin' too many doom movies kid
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PF-asknU
you didn't read the post, did you kid.

I have fought in wars and done others dirty work, and have no patience for the fools in charge to figure out how to stay in power, nor do I think a different group of fools would be better.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble, It's what you know that just ain't so. -Mark Twain

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Excellent post.
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Nice try. Stupid.
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I'm not TRYING anything I'm DOING it.
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Excellent post.
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Thank you, this is video that has a lot of great info on the types of people to watch out for post SHTF.


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TLDR

There will be no recovery.
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After the TEOTWAWKI event/the 4 stages of recovery.
I know that there are traditional recovery plans for local disasters, but they won't work because they rely on nearby towns and cities to come help. They have 7 stages of recovery listed here.
[link to reliefweb.int (secure)]

What I am going to talk about is recovery after a SHTF type of situation.


The events in todays news are a sign that things are about to take an abrupt turn for the worst, I like many people "feel" it coming. You can find many videos and post related to prepping and what is coming and how things will break down, take your pick and spin the wheel of doom. I would like to talk about during and after.

Weather it's global, nationwide, or regional it's upon Us and I don't think it can be avoided any longer. I have for years been prepping for this time, as many people have, at this point the actual event is not as important to me as is what comes after.

:cucalps:

[link to westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com (secure)] When the music stops, an article by M. Bracken in Sept. of 2011. Describes in detail the way things would break down in an American city, and gives a great point of view from a military perspective.

In a SHTF event, It will be very important to keep as low of a profile as possible, I have fought in wars and done others dirty work, and have no patience for the fools in charge to figure out how to stay in power, nor do I think a different group of fools would be better. From time to time the forest must burn to get rid of dead wood and make room for new growth.
The first 12 to 18 months will be when most of the people survive or die.
People will die from hunger, disease, fighting others,and because of everyday things, lack of power for medical equipment, medicines for all kinds of conditions
like a cut becoming infected.

Only by controlling who knows; what you have, where you are, and what your location is, will
give you a better chance at survival.

There won't be an internet to look up the information of " that guy you met online" or the article
you read on making xxxxxx whatever ( so print copies now).



It is very important to blend in at the early stages of a shtf event. you will need to act as if you have nothing and don't know what's going on.

At the start of the event Governments will try to maintain order, give out supplies, and information. You should go to civic meetings, food shelters, and other gatherings to find out who is calling the shots and what their plan is.

:foogard::nomodrosto:
These people who think that they are in charge often will make decisions that are short sighted and dangerous.
When the food supplies runout at the store they will automatically think of confiscating others supplies as a fast short term solution to the problem.


Be careful about what you tell people and if needed spread disinformation to those who pry or press for answers.
If you are aware of the discussions at a townhall meeting then you can suggest ways of meeting the food and water needs before it becomes a problem, and if the decision is made to confiscate supplies, then you will have time to hide your resources before they come.
:prepgold:

In the months following an event, people will be the biggest danger and not just strangers. It will most likely be the people you know, we all have that one friend or family member who speaks without thinking or dosen't pay attention to who might be listening.










There are 4 stages as I as see it to the collapse and recovery cycle.
1st Stage is the event or events leading to a situation that is beyond the point of recovery. (to normal life as we know it)
In this stage which last form 30 to 90 days there is still some order, some food, some sense that things will return to normal. People will be in shock as they begin to realize the world they knew is gone. The event may have taken out whole crops and make the environment difficult to raise another.

:cropevent:


2nd Stage is WROL(without rule of law) this stage lasts between 3 months and 3 years. When people realize there is no law, and no civil order then "capital" crimes will sky rocket.

People will settle old scores, and take things that they think they deserve, to include rape of women who rejected and belittled them, or killing the ex husband who used to abuse them. This will not be a time when morals or ethics restrain actions of desperate people. In this time you won't get into arguments you will get into gunfights.
:newpc:

[link to www.survivaldan101.com] The 6 different types of people that will die first when the shtf



The 3rd Stage of the cycle takes place when the dust starts to settle between 3 to 8 years after the event. During this time groups of survivors live a tribal type of existence, where farming and hunting skills help to keep the group alive.

:farmsk::huntskil:

At this time of the cycle groups will still keep contact with other groups to a minimum with some trade.
Other survivors with skill sets such as medical training,
blacksmiths, will start to rebuild the tools necessary for towns to begin to develop.

:trayskil::hamrstik:



those with some engineering knowledge could salvage some of what was left behind, and with some work repair things to get basic utilities running a simple methane digester could provide fuel or a generator for electricity and cooking/ heating. Teachers could begin to teach children the 3R's that is essential for the 4th stage.


:metdome::medig:


The 4th stage takes place after the 3rd stage is well established between 8 and 20 years after the event. trade between towns and settlements, rules that are understood between leaders sometimes this takes longer but will eventually become common practice in regions and the rebirth of City States were people refer to themselves as Roman, or Spartan ect.


I realize that this is just my basic plan and there are tons of specific things to add to the plan. my goal is to set the framework up for people just getting started.
 Quoting: storm2come


bsmeter2
No one knows what will happen and different areas will suffer in different ways. There is no "one size fits all", teotwawki scenario.
Area with bigger Muslim, Black or Mexican populations will have different problems than other areas.
Desert regions will be different than, the Pacific Northwest or Florida.
Cities will be different than the Country areas.

Also don't expect the Government to do anything after the initial event but run and take care of themselves and their families. That includes the Military and the Police.
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all I can say is be in an area where you can hunt deer, trap rabbits, fish, plant food and cut wood and not be in a state
with 26 million people

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Good luck with your recovery:
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Good luck with your recovery:
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that first picture is awesome
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all I can say is be in an area where you can hunt deer, trap rabbits, fish, plant food and cut wood and not be in a state
with 26 million people
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I am Jake and set up well, like many around me. The people who have already given up don't stand a chance.
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Howdy neighbor, Oklahoma here...

Good Post, I've been prepping for awhile now. I have experience living off grid for 9 months. If the SHTF and you need to move to another bug out location, I wouldn't mind if you stopped by.
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Thanks, OP.
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Just want people to see that there will be a light at the end of the tunnel, if you have kids you don't get to give up period.
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Re: After the TEOTWAWKI event/ the 4 stages of recovery.
Howdy neighbor, Oklahoma here...

Good Post, I've been prepping for awhile now. I have experience living off grid for 9 months. If the SHTF and you need to move to another bug out location, I wouldn't mind if you stopped by.
 Quoting: DuckNCover


Thanks DuckNCover same here, swing on by. I am working on getting a hamm radio to set up a weather network if things go south.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble, It's what you know that just ain't so. -Mark Twain

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