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After the TEOTWAWKI event/ the 4 stages of recovery.

 
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Very well done.....But.

Threads like this always assumes America as a finite vacuum. That is to say, there are plenty of countries that would jump at the chance to occupy America, UNLESS you’re talking a global event here. If not and it’s locality is just America, China, Russia, Canada, Mexico, to name a few, would rush in to capture all that they could as fast as they could. Question is, would they allow survivors to live? Would we be carted off to concentration camps “for processing.”

The biggest reason people would die in a SHTF scenario is Foreign Invaders, in my opinion.
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Depends on what kind of collapse you expect.. I am sure China and Russia would be willing to send you some blankets and food in case of natural desaster.. would they try to take territory? No not really.. you got no meaningful resources (again) depending on the type of shtf.. they might be busy themselves or have no need for the kind of resources you still got (Oil) which they, at least the Russians.. have all a hundred times over.. so why would they want to take your land? Russia is the biggest country on earth with huge amounts of resources... lol.. that's why the US is pissed off they weren't able to break up Russia.. why your government is trying to take Venezuela (Oil, Gold, Coltan). China? They got all they wanted from you already (hi tech) and are capable of producing their own CPU's already.. so don't bank on getting rescued by any foreigners.. they may be busy too, in a global financial collapse for sure..
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Didn’t say “rescued.” I said killed or sent to concentration camps...which is the same thing.
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I dont know what is to come .
I do know just as trump said we were born free a d we will die
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It's fine the rails will still be there.

Step One: Fuckin tip the old useless electric shits off the rails. Not easy but do-able.

Step Two: Build steam loco, NEW AMERICAN RENNEISSANCE OF STEAM

Step Three: Chuff chuff chuff, shoot bandits from the train, shoot more bandits, get food to the town, feed the kids

Step Four: Hooray!
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Step one will be tough, that's megatonnage of blockage that will stall on the highways of food (the rails) due to purposeful mismanagement and greed, at that time, which is cascading at that time.

Greedy fucks right now in international rail business. Go to war with these before the collapse so that steam trains can come back. They are purposefuly stupid as the FAA cut out man during 9/11 was also stupid, I mean the man the milspecs had at the FAA, he was a bobblehead sheepdip candybar to deflect shit. In the future, steamheads like me, will know who is deflecting us. Steam will no trelent, not in nuke form, nor in wood or coal form, steam will blow.

Not as high as fuki, we know that those GE gen one reactors do not just detonate when deprived of battery power (derp) literally if that were true, power loss at Plymouth MA would cause a nuke detonation like fuku, that's just not true and all those GE engies know that.

So, multiple levels of bullshit that only cow catcher on the front of mega steam loco of the future, bringing food to the kids and oldsters of that future. Only that ghost ship from the past, blowing steam
*********PPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT*******
into the station, loaded with tonnage of food and meds, only Petticoat Junction and all that it did not have in it, can return America to Greatness. What did Petticoat Junction NOT HAVE IN IT?
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German poster on here is funny but good. Typical of Germans left over from the dialectic of Germany being split in half, Staliniszed, then recombimed. total hegelkreig, is what Germans underwent, being reforged into a new socialist tool for the Eastern fuckheads who rapes their way into Germany and France and which lousy communist shit government is still waiting to steal whats left over there, when shit hits the fan.

I wouldn't expect Germans to ever fight Russia again, how could they? The hebrews set them up, performed Anti-Germany Laws and Wars, at the Jehovah behest, and they crushed Germans using employee Hitler.

So, definitely it will be Russians in France, Stalinist govt in France, who would fight? Show me anyone left to resist in Europe after Israel is built, none, the Israel building WW2 event is done, now the world stands in the chaos of that new age.
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Even if you began to decouple the rail cars on eday one, you have to go one by one, first the engine, you have to decouple it, roll it forward, then tip it off the rails such that it doesn't just sit there like a sack of ten billion beans, it has to be gotten off the railway, entirely such that new steam trains can pass it. Said steam trains, should be constructed now, for emergency use (ohh that will be a fun job for some guys, he he)

Naturally you will need full on grow op, and anti-banditry battalions, etc, at the railheads, and of course, you can't have mogadishu style gangs shitheads, they have to all be killed.

Hooray! Imagine being able to openly hunt and kill (not murder they earned their deaths) pimps, and low lifes who threaten families. Can't wait.
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Do not be misled, I have a clear connection to spirit in this matter and they say to me clearly "The government has a shit ton of stuff in cold storage and they have planety for the re-takeup when SHTF globally. However they do not have A: Distro, B: defense for that A plan, and C: Good men to lead the trains from the warehouses out. Roads are a luxury they will be as broken as to be not useful. Rails will be set upon by termites-like humans, and must be fumigated. New metal buffalo will bring seed and food both, and knowledge, to the lkand, and to the people, who are good. The bad, will go to their next lives, or to their hells, accordingly."

Thus, the steam locos I mention would have old time rail laying attachments at first, to boldyl build out, laying track like 1857, to get to the mainlines. Fruthermore there iwll have to be more sidings and more railbosses with top flight coordination like the old days. Ha ha tho I hate her book maybe Ayn Rand's love of locomotives can be useful to us.

So many people understand, over the past decades as Democrats and Repubes alike have elected shitheads theat enrich themselves and their "Foundations" but erode the infrastructure of the USA, these are the guilty fuckers who did it to us. Here we all stand, nothing has happened yet, no penny has dropped yet, but do I wish bad upon Russian people or Chinese people? No, we have all been led dwon a road of lies, that made the 20th Century an absolute abbatoir, the bloodiest in the history of mankind and womankind. Can we top it? Yes we can.
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What I am explaining is that if and when this happens, the sheer tonnage of useless shit and useless old ideas, have to be weighed.

Literally, the rails will have hmm well estimate 10k railcars rolling at say 20 tons if loaded? Surely these, when tipped over, will before that have contents in them, stranded and packaged, that takes days to be gotten into locked railcars, etc. A week the thing could be standing there picked over while 100k refugees roll by.

So, it's like you and your employees and co members of the board, are building an Jenga puzzle. For me, I can easily see the blocks, and when they fall, rebuilding with the blocks you don't use anymore, will be not only fun, it will give people the hope, that you empower, rich, soulless motherfuckers, have vampirically sucked out America, for deacdes in power with your shitregimes, and lousy employee familiars sucking that paychecch off you.

In the future, employers and landlords will be better people, by law.
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It's fine the rails will still be there.

Step One: Fuckin tip the old useless electric shits off the rails. Not easy but do-able.

Step Two: Build steam loco, NEW AMERICAN RENNEISSANCE OF STEAM

Step Three: Chuff chuff chuff, shoot bandits from the train, shoot more bandits, get food to the town, feed the kids

Step Four: Hooray!
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I was going to add something along the same lines to this thread.

It would be useful to stockpile books on 1880's technology along with your prepping supplies. If you have to rebuild society, steam and other technologies from that era can be more easily reproduced and rapidly aid the reconstruction.
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It's fine the rails will still be there.

Step One: Fuckin tip the old useless electric shits off the rails. Not easy but do-able.

Step Two: Build steam loco, NEW AMERICAN RENNEISSANCE OF STEAM

Step Three: Chuff chuff chuff, shoot bandits from the train, shoot more bandits, get food to the town, feed the kids

Step Four: Hooray!
 Quoting: doc brown blackmsith 1885 69922113


I was going to add something along the same lines to this thread.

It would be useful to stockpile books on 1880's technology along with your prepping supplies. If you have to rebuild society, steam and other technologies from that era can be more easily reproduced and rapidly aid the reconstruction.
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That is very wise, also school books for children, books on medicinal herbs, DIY off grid power, ect.

Most of the comments I see here are still focused on the event and it's imeadeate after effects, I am focused on stage 3 once the dust settles 3 to 8 years after, when most of the people will be dead and marauders will have died fighting themselves, at this time I expect that there will be local warlords, but there will also be areas beyond their control, too far away from their base of operations.

This is when/where people will begin to rebuild.
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ISIS was created by your own government, just like Al Qaeda..

The USA is going to collapse like Soviet Russia did..

This might shock you.. but Socialist countries going broke is much less disturbing because people in these societies have higher morals, they don't have such a steep hierarchy, they fight next to each other, they put all people equal..

USA is the complete opposite model.. it's a place were everybody is very selfish, americans are not used to share, they don't care for equality.. even though your countries ideology pretends to do.. you need a lot of money to buy yourself a good lawer, if you are poor you are not "equal"... you lack solidarity.. you don't care for your next door neighbor much.. your friendlyness is only superficial.

Americans always laugh about socialist democracies.. like Finnland, Germany.. or even Venezuela.. but we believe in it and we like our health care system for everybody, our free education system.. we don't do so bad, even if our financial system would collapse, we don't go ape shit and expect total mayhem.. we would be very organized and orderly and do what needs to be done, we won't prepare to shoot each other... like you do.
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NC-ud0ntsay

1. there is no such thing as equality in nature, your ideals of everyone being the same is a man made concept, and use laws to try to level the playing field to benefit the weak, Normally against White males. Once there is no rule of law there will be many who have this illusionary bubble popped.

2. How orderly is Venezuela collapsing, sooner or later communist countries run out of other peoples money, and your free shit goes away. AS with the DDR where it sounds like your from.

3.The concept of the collective good is an illusion touted by the have not's. Self preservation is human nature, when resources get scarce, those who do the work will not share with those who don't.
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Consider this too OP.

When TSHTF, don't be surprised if certain individuals, those in power, decide to spray the populace with something or release viruses or illness to expedite the process.

The problem is, will it be something that will simply kill off people quicker, or will it be like something from Resident Evil, I am Legend or World War Z?

The reason I offer this scenario is that whereas one would be quicker to kill, it might also be more dangerous to those who are looking to survive the event, in D.U.M.B.s or similar, including the personnel they have working for them on the surface.

Either way, I always believed that the crisscross pattern they sprayed chemtrails in all of these years were constantly being recorded so as to track the behavior of the jet streams and where those chemtrails fell. Whether they, TPTB, have affected the jet streams the world over, or if this is truly a natural change, along with the shifting magnetic pole, monitoring and charting these changes with a grid makes A LOT of sense, as thermal would not suffice.
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The problem is that most of the military despise politicians and TPTB, I've talked to a lot of Officers that would take over the D.U.M.B.s they hate being treated like guard dogs by lesser men, and there is resentment at being disrespected by those who would call themselves our masters.
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ZzZzZz.

same tired shit...

this has to be about the 83083408 thread posted since
the internet came online with the world wide web

ya been watchin' too many doom movies kid
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PF-asknU
you didn't read the post, did you kid.

I have fought in wars and done others dirty work, and have no patience for the fools in charge to figure out how to stay in power, nor do I think a different group of fools would be better.
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It is right that you are trying to do something but you have a rather fanciful view of what is about to occur and it's aftermath.

Your Analogy reads like a Hollywood Film script however what is coming is on a scale that will return what Humans do survive back to the caves.

You have made great advances in your Technology but Humans have not in the same amount of time.

Right now your Atmosphere is changing, your Star is now emitting an energy form unknown to your Scientists. These two events will cause Transmutation in all living matter.

It will take 40 Solar Cycles for your Planet to adjust to it's new position.

You think that you will carry on as normal, you will not. At the end of each cycle almost all knowledge is lost and has to be re learnt.

Much of what exists know will be under your Oceans and once your supplies run out life will be extremely difficult.

The great minds that have come and gone that shaped your World will not be there.

All your present Technologies will be lost and will have to be re learnt. This will take very long periods of time as the basic needs will outweigh all other factors.

If you truly wish to survive you need to look to the past as the last cycle is recorded in your present History.

The Failure to pass on knowledge to your emerging generations will add to your downfall.
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Very well done.....But.

Threads like this always assumes America as a finite vacuum. That is to say, there are plenty of countries that would jump at the chance to occupy America, UNLESS you’re talking a global event here. If not and it’s locality is just America, China, Russia, Canada, Mexico, to name a few, would rush in to capture all that they could as fast as they could. Question is, would they allow survivors to live? Would we be carted off to concentration camps “for processing.”

The biggest reason people would die in a SHTF scenario is Foreign Invaders, in my opinion.
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behind every blade of grass, my friend. this is why they will wait for the dust to settle.



remember that if we fall the worlds food supply will take a severe hit, and if the dollar falls then markets around the world will collapse. many will have their own problems to deal with.
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It is right that you are trying to do something but you have a rather fanciful view of what is about to occur and it's aftermath.

Your Analogy reads like a Hollywood Film script however what is coming is on a scale that will return what Humans do survive back to the caves.

You have made great advances in your Technology but Humans have not in the same amount of time.

Right now your Atmosphere is changing, your Star is now emitting an energy form unknown to your Scientists. These two events will cause Transmutation in all living matter.

It will take 40 Solar Cycles for your Planet to adjust to it's new position.

You think that you will carry on as normal, you will not. At the end of each cycle almost all knowledge is lost and has to be re learnt.

Much of what exists know will be under your Oceans and once your supplies run out life will be extremely difficult.

The great minds that have come and gone that shaped your World will not be there.

All your present Technologies will be lost and will have to be re learnt. This will take very long periods of time as the basic needs will outweigh all other factors.

If you truly wish to survive you need to look to the past as the last cycle is recorded in your present History.

The Failure to pass on knowledge to your emerging generations will add to your downfall.
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speaking of GRAY men chuckle , this video is very informative about keeping a low profile pre/post SHTF.




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bump for discussion
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Thanks for the bump ARK, cheers

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A great video from Canadian Prepper discussing the pro's and con's to consider when choosing the best place to be in a SHTF scenario . I would also take Yellowstone, New Madrid and pandemics into consideration.



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for the night owls, and folks on the other side of this rock

bump

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Thx for this thread as follow-up to your other one, Storm!

Me personally, if it's gonna' be a scenario like William Forstchen's books then I honestly am hoping I'm taken out upon whatever hits/happens <sigh>. But if I'm a survivor then one of my prized possessions worth saving is my Foxfire book series....

....a country girl/boy can survive....
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Thx for this thread as follow-up to your other one, Storm!

Me personally, if it's gonna' be a scenario like William Forstchen's books then I honestly am hoping I'm taken out upon whatever hits/happens <sigh>. But if I'm a survivor then one of my prized possessions worth saving is my Foxfire book series....

....a country girl/boy can survive....
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Hey DZ, books will be like gold for the 3rd and 4th stages of recovery. As an old Sergeant I can tell you your best survival tool is between your ears. ohyeah
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better stock up on beef it's price will skyrocket soon after this gets out there. ohyeah


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As a supplement to your diet, micro greens add vitamins and minerals, and can be grown in a small area.




Something to start considering is being responsible for your own food supply.

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