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Body of Missing Milwaukee Teacher Found in Burning Car :(

 
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This is awful - Kathleen Ryan, a teacher at St. Augustine Prep in Milwaukee who had been reported missing, has been ID'd as the person found deceased in a burning car on Saturday.

[link to www.jsonline.com (secure)]

What on earth is going on here??

She was reportedly on her way to a basketball game at Carmel High School in Mundelein, IL, and never showed. A car fire was reported around 9:50 p.m. in a private driveway in the 36500 block of North Route 41 in Warren Township in Lake County, IL.

The body has been identified as Kathleen's.

She is reported as 56 years old (her birthday was to be Feb 4th - is that significant? Not sure if she was turning 56 or 57).

This is so awful and bizarre.
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If you have access to RadioReference archives, the fire audio begins several minutes into the Feb 2, 9:52 p.m. feed.
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Actual address reported in 911 call is 36551 North Route 41 in Warren Township - having a hard time finding it on a map.

This story from a few weeks ago is probably not related, but it's in the same general location:

"Lake County detectives were conducting an investigation in the 36300 block of North Route 41 in Warren Township on Dec. 12."

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I think that address may show on maps as 36551 North Skokie Highway, Gurnee, IL 60031
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I think that address may show on maps as 36551 North Skokie Highway, Gurnee, IL 60031
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Yes that's it - the fire dispatch said it was across from Stearns School Rd.
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I am going to forward this case to Marissa from The Vanished Podcast and see if she will cover it.
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I think that address may show on maps as 36551 North Skokie Highway, Gurnee, IL 60031
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Yes that's it - the fire dispatch said it was across from Stearns School Rd.
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It's a very, very long private drive that leads into the County Forest Preserve.
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I am going to forward this case to Marissa from The Vanished Podcast and see if she will cover it.
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That's a good idea - this is so sad, and so odd.
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Fwiw:

"There were several locations in the film but a few outside shots were taken in Gurnee, Illinois (that's outside Chicago) at The River Trail Gardens and Inn located at 36355 Route 41, Gurnee, IL, 60031. It's a motel they used in (I think) that scene where Steve Martin and John Candy have to share a bed? The building doesn't really look the same anymore but you can go see it!"

Just down the road from the private drive, but it doesn't look open acc to the July 2018 Google cam.
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Fwiw:

"There were several locations in the film but a few outside shots were taken in Gurnee, Illinois (that's outside Chicago) at The River Trail Gardens and Inn located at 36355 Route 41, Gurnee, IL, 60031. It's a motel they used in (I think) that scene where Steve Martin and John Candy have to share a bed? The building doesn't really look the same anymore but you can go see it!"

Just down the road from the private drive, but it doesn't look open acc to the July 2018 Google cam.
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I do wonder whether the out-of-state man arrested for the other incident ( [link to patch.com (secure)] was crashing at that motel, possibly, and if that means that weird things go on there. At first glance that seems like one of the few (or only) residential properties in that block.
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Yeah - that hotel is now a monthly room rental place.

Not good.

I guess she could have gotten off if I-94 onto 41 early, maybe to hit the Shell Station/Gurnee Truck Stop. That is literally a stone's throw from where her body was found.

That truck stop is listed as 36725 US-41, Skokie, IL.

Maybe a guy who lives at the hotel was hanging out at the truck stop and grabbed her?
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The son Sam Ryan said, however "It was off the path she would have taken to get to Mundelein. She's done this trip thousands of times."

Game time wasn't until 4:30 p.m.; Saturday in this part of the region was super warm, in the 40s, and after the polar vortex had everyone locked inside for days; just brainstorming of course, but maybe she decided to take a walk in Lake County Forest Preserve on the way?
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Just curious; why are you so interested in this case? Im from near there.

These are really big cities,busy roads, with tons of visitors. Gurnee is where Six Flags is and the largest mall in the US (previously).

Gurnee is fairly expensive, but, hosts so many people- it could be anyone.
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There's a traffic camera at that intersection... Hopefully there's evidence on that cam they can use to find the monster(s) that did this.

Definitely check the cameras at the gas stations on her route from home to destination.

I used to live less than a mile, as the crow flies, from this intersection.

I moved 3 hrs. North in 2007 because violent crime and heroin use seemed to be on the rise in that general area and I didn't want my kid living there.
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With all the illegals being let in get used to it -- we'll have violence like Brazil in the near future
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Just curious; why are you so interested in this case? Im from near there.

These are really big cities,busy roads, with tons of visitors. Gurnee is where Six Flags is and the largest mall in the US (previously).

Gurnee is fairly expensive, but, hosts so many people- it could be anyone.
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Just read it in the news this a.m. and find the circumstances so puzzling.

Looking at the destination, and location of the body, might start to piece together some possibilities. The body being so near a very iffy hotel (which shows recent criminal activity) is something to keep an eye on, I think.

I have to review the audio again but I believe it was the residents at 36551 who called in the car fire - at first glance it seems like someone might have just spotted a long "road" (really a driveway) that leads into the woods and decided to panic-burn the car there (otherwise why do it so close to the highway--why not take more time)?

But if in fact some desperate person took her there (at gunpoint?) why didn't they steal the car?

I'm just trying to envision what crime involves setting the car and body on fire (destroying DNA?)
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There's a traffic camera at that intersection... Hopefully there's evidence on that cam they can use to find the monster(s) that did this.

Definitely check the cameras at the gas stations on her route from home to destination.

I used to live less than a mile, as the crow flies, from this intersection.

I moved 3 hrs. North in 2007 because violent crime and heroin use seemed to be on the rise in that general area and I didn't want my kid living there.
 Quoting: AstroBuzz


Definitely agree that heroin could be involved in some way--it's like the lifebood of crime lately.
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And then

The Country just fell


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Come to think of it, there's been a rash of driver-jacking lately; someone tries to talk a gullible good-hearted person into giving them a ride "just up the road" and then tries to make the driver go on some drug pickup or whatever. It literally happened to my friend's elderly mom several months ago; she ended up in a town three hours away, but managed to get help before things got too bad.

Kathy was so close to her destination (only 10 mi away from the high school) that I have to think she was abducted nearby, rather than abducted, say, at her start point in Milwaukee, with the jacker obligingly getting her almost all the way to Camden High in Illinois.

It would be interesting to see if either the interstate or highway gas stations have reported incidents in the past year.
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The game was at 4:30, so we can theorize that Kathy was in the general area at least by that time; the car wasn't found burning until 9:50 p.m. Awful to think about.
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:african: <-- This.
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:african: <-- This.
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Whoever it is is still on the loose, so we can't box ourselves in on presumptions.

It was a 30 year old white female who took my friend's mom - in fact it's a hell of a lot easier for a female criminal to get someone to give them a ride.
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:african: <-- This.
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Whoever it is is still on the loose, so we can't box ourselves in on presumptions.

It was a 30 year old white female who took my friend's mom - in fact it's a hell of a lot easier for a female criminal to get someone to give them a ride.
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And even easier for a female who's white.
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Anyone who starts yelling "blacks did it" or "Somalis did it" is literally putting victims in potential danger by getting people all cranked up on possibly the wrong description. If you want to blame black people for whatever, just go start a thread where you can do that.

This is about finding a killer who's on the loose. The minute that person is identified by race, race is appropriate to include in sounding the alarm. Up to the point, it accomplishes literally the opposite of helping.
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Btw I don't see any black people contracting military airlines to Afghanistan, hiring hundreds of Afghan poppy workers, importing a $25,000,000/year chemist, and exporting the refined product back in body bags to the states on more military airlines where it is finally sold to kill our kids.

No, last time I checked, those were white guys.
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Btw I don't see any black people contracting military airlines to Afghanistan, hiring hundreds of Afghan poppy workers, importing a $25,000,000/year chemist, and exporting the refined product back in body bags to the states on more military airlines where it is finally sold to kill our kids.

No, last time I checked, those were white guys.
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You're right because they're more likely to snatch/rape and kill a white lady and then torch her car.
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The article says she left her house around noon and the game was at 4:30 PM;it doesn't take 4.5 hrs. to get to that destination from her home in St. Francis...

She must've had plans to maybe do some shopping before arriving at the game?

I doubt she'd go hiking alone on any trails in that area so I'm guessing she probably planned on shopping somewhere... maybe Gurnee Mills shopping mall just down the road?

I would definitely check out who is ever staying at that motel because if it was just one person they'd have a long way to walk to get anywhere besides that motel, the bar nextdoor, or the gas station.
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Anyways, it's super sad.

The article says she was a kind religious woman and was once chosen by Oprah to bring her class on a trip to Kenya paid for by Oprah.

I can't imagine the horror she experienced that day.

Who ever the monster(s) is that did this should get the death penalty.
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Btw I don't see any black people contracting military airlines to Afghanistan, hiring hundreds of Afghan poppy workers, importing a $25,000,000/year chemist, and exporting the refined product back in body bags to the states on more military airlines where it is finally sold to kill our kids.

No, last time I checked, those were white guys.
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You're right because they're more likely to snatch/rape and kill a white lady and then torch her car.
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Actually the burning car thing probably points more to someone who knew her, imo.

(I'm the OP - on a different 'puter now)

Been thinking about it; who burns cars? Someone who wants to try and hide the original cause of death, possibly; someone who's thinking about DNA, possibly, and not necessarily because of a sex crime.

Could be someone trying to hide an accidental killing possibly--like car vs pedestrian?

At some point we have to look at other people known to her--burning a car also can smack of a more calculated crime, possibly.

And if you're some desperate heroin junkie--wouldn't you take the car, get whatever money you could from a chop shop?
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Btw I don't see any black people contracting military airlines to Afghanistan, hiring hundreds of Afghan poppy workers, importing a $25,000,000/year chemist, and exporting the refined product back in body bags to the states on more military airlines where it is finally sold to kill our kids.

No, last time I checked, those were white guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69950254


You're right because they're more likely to snatch/rape and kill a white lady and then torch her car.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61780440


Actually the burning car thing probably points more to someone who knew her, imo.

(I'm the OP - on a different 'puter now)

Been thinking about it; who burns cars? Someone who wants to try and hide the original cause of death, possibly; someone who's thinking about DNA, possibly, and not necessarily because of a sex crime.

Could be someone trying to hide an accidental killing possibly--like car vs pedestrian?

At some point we have to look at other people known to her--burning a car also can smack of a more calculated crime, possibly.

And if you're some desperate heroin junkie--wouldn't you take the car, get whatever money you could from a chop shop?
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Yes, but not always. The people closest to her will be the first suspects in any case, and the first investigated, unfortunately. Sometimes letting the real trail get cold. Its a disheartening story all around. Hopefully someone will have seen something and/or have a change of heart and do the right thing.
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Anyone who starts yelling "blacks did it" or "Somalis did it" is literally putting victims in potential danger by getting people all cranked up on possibly the wrong description. If you want to blame black people for whatever, just go start a thread where you can do that.

This is about finding a killer who's on the loose. The minute that person is identified by race, race is appropriate to include in sounding the alarm. Up to the point, it accomplishes literally the opposite of helping.
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You are WRONG Moron...

Statistical probability of a Knee-Grow, or Mix-a-can is like 80 percent.

Get-Some...
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