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I talked to an old timer the other day in a parking lot for 20 mins...

 
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He was absolutely right.
My ancestors go back to the 1700s at least,
and I do a lot of research into the 18th
and 19th centuries in America, and from reading
the newspapers from back then, you realize that
THIS America might as well be a different species
from a different planet.

There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.

Those people, on whose shoulders we stand,
would have sterilized themselves if they could
have seen the fruits of their blood sweat and
tears.


We passed the point of no return.
What a SHAME!
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He was absolutely right.
My ancestors go back to the 1700s at least,
and I do a lot of research into the 18th
and 19th centuries in America, and from reading
the newspapers from back then, you realize that
THIS America might as well be a different species
from a different planet.

There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.

Those people, on whose shoulders we stand,
would have sterilized themselves if they could
have seen the fruits of their blood sweat and
tears.


We passed the point of no return.
What a SHAME!

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That's nice, honey
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I'm no Freemason (just the opposite) but he's not wrong.
That which does not kill us makes us weirder
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Re: I talked to an old timer the other day in a parking lot for 20 mins...
Long story short he said his family had lived here since 1835 or some shit and that he's never seen anything like what's going on in this country today..

Was talking about all the interracial commercials on T.V. and how it's insane..

Was talking about all the homosexuals and how it's the fault of the women's movement back in the 60's and that these women are raising boys as single mothers without a male to identify with so they grow up to be fags... lol

Was saying how it wasn't the blacks fault and the government trapped them on the welfare slavery and keeps them dumb and down on purpose...

If it wasn't for the fact that this guy was in overalls and had a flip phone I would have sworn he must be a glper...

So eventually I asked him, "What can we do to get our country back?"

He said, "It's too far gone and isn't coming back."

He said his son asked him the same question one day and he answered, "I guess we'll just keep our heads down out here till they come and get us, and then we'll probably die on the porch with a rifle in our hands".

He was very matter of fact about it and not emotional at all.

As we were leaving he introduced himself properly and turns out the guys family owns thousands of acres here and has been selling it off making millions since the 1900's....

You know that guy is in every secret club there is around here...

It just struck me that if THIS is what these local freemason type guys think about the current situation, we are in a lot of trouble...

Idol1


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So you were talking to Captain Obvious?
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" making millions since the 1900's " from money his family left him ?

so essentially he doesn't really have anything to bitch about
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Nope, If anything, he has more to lose if his investments and bank account end up trapped in a shithole country.

I've long wondered what sane, humane people in countries like Mexico are forced to go through when dealing with the crappy nature of their native land. Constant embarrassment and a feeling of "get me the hell outta here!" must be their version of "national pride."



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America = South Africa/Rhodesia


Wait for it.
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All you need to know... 22 trillion in debt.. we are very close to the point where we must create more money to make a full interest payment on the debt. It's over folks... The societal breakdown is just icing on the debt cake... and no amount of preps are going to guarantee your safety. They might help a little, but 99% of stuff is going to be outside of your control. Enjoy the comfortable life you currently lead while you can and mentally prepare for the end... that's really about all you can do.
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We'll be on the road to recover when the president tells the Fed to get fucked, and they're not getting another penny. Let the US treasury perform it's constitutional job.
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Well that's all fine and good.. except our creditors are not just the Fed... also China and countless pension funds.. You can default but you cannot avoid the consequences of default. Millions of old people won't get there pensions, and you cannot borrow anymore to bail them out since you wrecked your credit in the default. China owns over a trillion of the debt.. you are betting that 12 aircraft carriers can hold a billion angry people at bay... they will probably embargo us like we have done to others many times... meanwhile total gridlock at home as the market crashes, jobs dry up and total panic sets in.. the government can't do anything without printing money, they couldn't even stand 30 days of a partial shutdown.
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He was absolutely right.
My ancestors go back to the 1700s at least,
and I do a lot of research into the 18th
and 19th centuries in America, and from reading
the newspapers from back then, you realize that
THIS America might as well be a different species
from a different planet.

There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.

Those people, on whose shoulders we stand,
would have sterilized themselves if they could
have seen the fruits of their blood sweat and
tears.


We passed the point of no return.
What a SHAME!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356142


That's nice, honey
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It will be for us, since you're scared shitless of death.

baby

Edit: 2/8/2019 Eat shit

Hey come back and tell us who you are, cuz I wanna give ya a green Karma and a blessing.

epiclol
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America = South Africa/Rhodesia


Wait for it.
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That would be optimistic. I'm thinking more like Stalingrad.
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Land is the ultimate source of wealth unless it is heavily taxed and regulated, which unfortunately is necessary in cities, where people do crazy things like build decks over manholes. True story.


Several years back I spoke to someone who followed his father into the navy and stayed, leaving only to become a contractor.

The navy paid for his psych. ph.d. and he became a statistician. Bright guy. In his sixties and now retired.

I asked him why the supreme court was favoring social decisions such as gay, etc., marriage and the bathroom thing, and he said it's a form of calvinism.

They believe that these people are already damned.
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Wow
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One last hurrah?


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There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.
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America is now going through its own version of the ruthless, inhumane leftism that rocked Russia during its Soviet-Union era, Germany during its Berlin-Wall era, Cuba during (and still today) its Castro era, and China during its Mao Cultural-Revolution era.

Germany has since morphed into its Orwellian-1984-EU-Merkel era and China has since morphed into its Orewellian-1984-Champagne-Socialist-Communist era.


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There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77356142


America is now going through its own version of the ruthless, inhumane leftism that rocked Russia during its Soviet-Union era, Germany during its Berlin-Wall era, Cuba during (and still today) its Castro era, and China during its Mao Cultural-Revolution era.

Germany has since morphed into its Orwellian-1984-EU-Merkel era and China has since morphed into its Orewellian-1984-Champagne-Socialist-Communist era.


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jay
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Was talking about all the homosexuals and how it's the fault of the women's movement back in the 60's and that these women are raising boys as single mothers without a male to identify with so they grow up to be fags... lol
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I've been telling folks this since the early 80's.

Now the agenda is in full blossom...

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To be honest?


That old guy seems like he's been living off of selling his family's land his whole life and now is an ignorant and unmotivated sonofabitch



Probably doesn't know what else to do



If all he can see is that he'll die with his rifle in his hand
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Bill Gates is giving away like.... 99.99 percent of his fortune to humanitarian causes....


He realizes that his children need to make their OWN way in life


That old guy sounds like a loser


There.

I said it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77094601


Let me explain.

Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation donates $500 million to X Foundation, like the Clinton foundation or one of the McCain family's foundations. That foundation in turn donates a like amount to the Gates Foundation. Each foundation places the owner of the other's foundation on the board of directors of his foundation and vice versa, for a salary plus expenses of $450,000. Even Steven. All the foundations donate to worthy causes in foreign countries with leaky banking regulations, like the Clinton Global Initiatives, now defunct.

Now do you understand?

Gates is not giving away his money, he is utilizing a global shell game to keep all his money safe.

verycool

It's all very cool and legal.
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Long story short he said his family had lived here since 1835 or some shit and that he's never seen anything like what's going on in this country today..

Was talking about all the interracial commercials on T.V. and how it's insane..

Was talking about all the homosexuals and how it's the fault of the women's movement back in the 60's and that these women are raising boys as single mothers without a male to identify with so they grow up to be fags... lol

Was saying how it wasn't the blacks fault and the government trapped them on the welfare slavery and keeps them dumb and down on purpose...

If it wasn't for the fact that this guy was in overalls and had a flip phone I would have sworn he must be a glper...

So eventually I asked him, "What can we do to get our country back?"

He said, "It's too far gone and isn't coming back."

He said his son asked him the same question one day and he answered, "I guess we'll just keep our heads down out here till they come and get us, and then we'll probably die on the porch with a rifle in our hands".

He was very matter of fact about it and not emotional at all.

As we were leaving he introduced himself properly and turns out the guys family owns thousands of acres here and has been selling it off making millions since the 1900's....

You know that guy is in every secret club there is around here...

It just struck me that if THIS is what these local freemason type guys think about the current situation, we are in a lot of trouble...

Idol1


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 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


He was a defeatist. The way to save our civilization is to encourage self responsibility at the individual level. Get the families back in order, start with yourself and your family. Then Society will fall back into place. Don't be afraidto speak up but make sure you have a good argument.
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Just because someone's old doesn't mean they know jack shit
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Doesn't mean he is wrong either, growing up in the 60's and 70's I could never have imagined the current degree of racial division in the US for example. There are so many things I couldn't imagine happening to my country. The social deterioration is stunning,
If I had a dollar for every time I got suspicious...

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You might be surprised how many of "us" there actually are out there.
The more you interact with "regular" people, the more you meet people like this.
I personally meet and talk to dozens, if not, hundreds of people every week. People in the trades, business owners, working stiffs, old timers, vets, just a general cross section of regular Joe type people. A few liberals and Trump haters in there too, however they are a minority, by far.
Most of us are amazed and not at all happy about not only the direction of so called modern day society in America, but how these nimrod left wing pyscho dumbass politicians keep getting elected.

The real problem is the not only the voting power concentration due to population, but the general media control of the major cities, most notably on the east and west coast.

NY and California are pretty much electing the POTUS along with a few choice other key states. You could win 40 states to 10 and STILL not win a general election. Doing away with the electoral college would make things even worse. Now Spreading some electors around to give lessor populated states more sway over a general election would help, but that isn't going happen, not easily anyway.

The universities and society in general of the east and west coast, with few exceptions, are ruling the entire country, as well as the media, which still has very powerful influence over the masses.

The old dude was likely right, we aren't going back to the "way it was", gone like a '59 Cadillac, and lots of good things, that ain't ever comin' back.

Right now we are in the fight of our lives to keep things from really going over the edge into the deep crazy end, as if things aren't in the deep end already, believe it or not things can and could get way worse.

We need to keep on nudging the pendulum back toward sanity or it's going to be AOC City USA.

Don't ever stop making sense, especially to the people who make no sense. Talking to the like minded is all well and good, it makes us realize we are not alone and bolsters our resolve, but the real people we need to take it to are the useful idiots who believe in the progressive "agenda" and are deluded enough to think it's good for them and this country of ours.

Change minds, we change direction. Kudos for bringing back AC posting, it vastly opens the sphere of influence.
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I should note that in the course of the conversation we both agreed civil war wasn't the answer,

"that it would be bad for the country, and would only open the door for attack from foreign powers"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That and the Balkanisation of the US.
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I have no doubt it will play out like he said.

They wouldn't be demonizing white people if they didn't plan on eliminating them by force.
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Rodger that.
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Line was crossed a long time ago and just kept getting worse.
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You might be surprised how many of "us" there actually are out there.
The more you interact with "regular" people, the more you meet people like this.
I personally meet and talk to dozens, if not, hundreds of people every week. People in the trades, business owners, working stiffs, old timers, vets, just a general cross section of regular Joe type people. A few liberals and Trump haters in there too, however they are a minority, by far.
Most of us are amazed and not at all happy about not only the direction of so called modern day society in America, but how these nimrod left wing pyscho dumbass politicians keep getting elected.

The real problem is the not only the voting power concentration due to population, but the general media control of the major cities, most notably on the east and west coast.

NY and California are pretty much electing the POTUS along with a few choice other key states. You could win 40 states to 10 and STILL not win a general election. Doing away with the electoral college would make things even worse. Now Spreading some electors around to give lessor populated states more sway over a general election would help, but that isn't going happen, not easily anyway.

The universities and society in general of the east and west coast, with few exceptions, are ruling the entire country, as well as the media, which still has very powerful influence over the masses.

The old dude was likely right, we aren't going back to the "way it was", gone like a '59 Cadillac, and lots of good things, that ain't ever comin' back.

Right now we are in the fight of our lives to keep things from really going over the edge into the deep crazy end, as if things aren't in the deep end already, believe it or not things can and could get way worse.

We need to keep on nudging the pendulum back toward sanity or it's going to be AOC City USA.

Don't ever stop making sense, especially to the people who make no sense. Talking to the like minded is all well and good, it makes us realize we are not alone and bolsters our resolve, but the real people we need to take it to are the useful idiots who believe in the progressive "agenda" and are deluded enough to think it's good for them and this country of ours.

Change minds, we change direction. Kudos for bringing back AC posting, it vastly opens the sphere of influence.
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well said

thank you
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Understanding does not mean believe,
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Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
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Need not listen to you anymore.
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There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.
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America is now going through its own version of the ruthless, inhumane leftism that rocked Russia during its Soviet-Union era, Germany during its Berlin-Wall era, Cuba during (and still today) its Castro era, and China during its Mao Cultural-Revolution era.

Germany has since morphed into its Orwellian-1984-EU-Merkel era and China has since morphed into its Orewellian-1984-Champagne-Socialist-Communist era.


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Well, we don't have the gulags or the RTL camps, so it's not quite so ruthless. Hope we can short circuit the development before it is. If the leftists arent prevented from taking full power, it looks pretty grim.
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There has ALWAYS been evil, but NEVER in America
has evil been celebrated and embraced.
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America is now going through its own version of the ruthless, inhumane leftism that rocked Russia during its Soviet-Union era, Germany during its Berlin-Wall era, Cuba during (and still today) its Castro era, and China during its Mao Cultural-Revolution era.

Germany has since morphed into its Orwellian-1984-EU-Merkel era and China has since morphed into its Orewellian-1984-Champagne-Socialist-Communist era.


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well put

and god bless that old farmer sob.

and god bless our great moderator, trin, for keeping us on track at glp
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" making millions since the 1900's " from money his family left him ?

so essentially he doesn't really have anything to bitch about
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Really??

You think as long as there are $, here could not possiby be any concerns in life.

That's not how reality works.
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You’d be surprised. I talk to a lot of people and many tell similar things. There are more of us out there than he realizes.
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This is why the way voting turned out suprised me so much.
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Long story short he said his family had lived here since 1835 or some shit and that he's never seen anything like what's going on in this country today..

Was talking about all the interracial commercials on T.V. and how it's insane..

Was talking about all the homosexuals and how it's the fault of the women's movement back in the 60's and that these women are raising boys as single mothers without a male to identify with so they grow up to be fags... lol

Was saying how it wasn't the blacks fault and the government trapped them on the welfare slavery and keeps them dumb and down on purpose...

If it wasn't for the fact that this guy was in overalls and had a flip phone I would have sworn he must be a glper...

So eventually I asked him, "What can we do to get our country back?"

He said, "It's too far gone and isn't coming back."

He said his son asked him the same question one day and he answered, "I guess we'll just keep our heads down out here till they come and get us, and then we'll probably die on the porch with a rifle in our hands".

He was very matter of fact about it and not emotional at all.

As we were leaving he introduced himself properly and turns out the guys family owns thousands of acres here and has been selling it off making millions since the 1900's....

You know that guy is in every secret club there is around here...

It just struck me that if THIS is what these local freemason type guys think about the current situation, we are in a lot of trouble...

Idol1


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Or we are in good company for when the war does come. It's all perspective.

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Yeah, that's how he saw it for sure.

He was telling me as we were leaving how good it was to talk to someone like me and how few of us there are out there...

I told him there are more of us than he thinks...

;)

It was a refreshing but sobering conversation for both of us I would imagine.

lol

I should note that in the course of the conversation we both agreed civil war wasn't the answer, that it would be bad for the country, and would only open the door for attack from foreign powers...
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Very sobering conversation indeed. I also agree on the point regarding civil war.
Just a number in the eyes of the PTTB wondering why I picked Earth as a destination for this visit. Perhaps I chose to witness the end of a planet.

P.s. I think Trump is awesome. #MAGA and the world will follow, potentially into the void lol.

FTL.
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Just because someone's old doesn't mean they know jack shit
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Why don't you enlighten us, princess.
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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

Killer Bunny