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Re:just taking care to take care. (Score:5, Insightful)
by DavidTC November 01 2007

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Have fun in your little made-up universe where the government comes to round you up and you manage to fight it off.

In the real world, fascism is when the corporations and governments work as a single entity, and you can wander around with your fucking gun all you want. In fact, you'll have to wander around, because the government/corporations took your house and your car, and no one will hire you.

At which point you'll be arrested, not as some big anti-government hero by jackboot thugs, but for stealing bread to live on, by a perfectly normal cop who's just doing his job, a job that absolutely no one except you disagrees with, so when you shoot and kill him you're getting the electric chair and no one thinks you're a hero at all.

There are different types of totalitarian governments, and assuming a fascist one operates like a communist one is faulty. Fascist governments don't put troops in the streets...they work with corporations to make sure 'the wrong sort of people' do not have any economic power, and do not have anywhere to peddle their ideas.

Modern fascist states don't even bother to kill those people, and pretending they're going to show up in some stormtrooper outfit and start a gun battle with you is insane. They'll show up with a court order to evict you from your home because you failed to pay your mortgage, because pressure came from the top at your company to let you go. Or they'll just sue you and ruin your finances.

America is not a bunch of tiny castles where, as long as you can hold off the invading armies, you will be fine. The idea that that is how the world works is astonishingly naive. Almost all the population of America lives in housing they do not fully own, they get food from places they do not control like the supermarket, they require operating in society for money to obtain said food and shelter, a society where economics are controlled by some very large players that can crush them like bugs.

And a fascist state isn't going to 'assume control', you asshat. There's not going to some insane coup, there's a going to be a slow change, which has, in fact, already happened, or have you not looked at the telecom immunity stuff? That's classic fascism. The government breaks the law, the government gets private companies to break the law, the government gives said companies huge amounts of cash, the government attempts to make such behavior legal retroactively. We've got government officials and AT&T officers leaping back and forth between each other in an incestuous loop. Your government spying on you, sponsored by AT&T. It's not 'totalitarian' yet, as evidenced by the fact Democrats managed to stop the immunity, but it is fascism, at least the start of it. (And the same thing's happened with Blackwater.)

Oh, and before you start ranting about gun control some more, be forewarned I'm against it. I'm just not stupid enough to think that the US government being slowly corrupted by business is something that can be fought off with gunpowder. Guns are useful to deter crime and to deter invasion. They aren't useful against a corrupt government in any meaningful way.

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What is not fascism for a $1000, Alex.
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It's much more effective to imprison people's minds than their bodies.
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It's much more effective to imprison people's minds than their bodies.
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It's much more effective to imprison people's minds than their bodies.
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^this
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It's much more effective to imprison people's minds than their bodies.
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^this
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Bet they do both!
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The future isn't corporations merging with government. These 'corporations' are owned by people, families, very rich and powerful families. They already have mostly taken over the government, we see that in the resistance to Trump. They do this through their non-government organizations (cfr, trilateral commission, bildeberg, etc), the media (which they own) and tax free foundations (which they use to fund organizations like splc, aclu, etc).

At the end of the day, at the top is a very small group of people. We need to focus on these people, who they are and how to get rid of them.
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You are annoyingly right. Fuck you.


I'm Not even surprised that commies have pulled off their "destroy freedom from within without firing a single shot" gameplan. I'm just surprised how easy it was and how they got the gullible masses of morons to beg to have their rights taken away.
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Written before the 2008 crash. Smart guy and he's right. I do own my home and cars outright and produce most of my own food. I'm still fucked though as I'm not young enough or healthy enough to keep what I've worked for.

The system is very bad and technology is enabling to a degree we never even imagined. A total climate disaster or nuclear war may be the only way to destroy the totalitarian state. Not looking good at all peeps. Pray for divine intervention.
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Wonder when they'll implement 'the mark of the beast'?
Sounds like they're saving that for the last remaining hold-outs.

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Unser Fuhrer was non-kommunist anti-fascist as the NSDAP's credo was the glory of the nation and destruction of the state.
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Written before the 2008 crash. Smart guy and he's right. I do own my home and cars outright and produce most of my own food. I'm still fucked though as I'm not young enough or healthy enough to keep what I've worked for.

The system is very bad and technology is enabling to a degree we never even imagined. A total climate disaster or nuclear war may be the only way to destroy the totalitarian state. Not looking good at all peeps. Pray for divine intervention.
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Industrial Society and Its Future:Ted Kaczynski.
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Well it is time for the Zionism to clean up all the mankind shit they had created and reset the world before they die and lose their soul.

Oh wait, that the great Anti-Christ jobs..
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My fear is that when the demonrats regain control of all three branches of gov't, they will use the meta-data to go after people whose electronic records show they are racist/xenophobic/sexist/etc. Imagine being jailed because "x" number of years ago you emailed someone a racist joke....or used the "N-word" in the privacy of your own home....or car.

Look at how much these people absolutely HATE us BEFORE you call me crazy please.


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And now you fools are all worshiping an orange.
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Re:just taking care to take care. (Score:5, Insightful)
by DavidTC November 01 2007

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Have fun in your little made-up universe where the government comes to round you up and you manage to fight it off.

In the real world, fascism is when the corporations and governments work as a single entity, and you can wander around with your fucking gun all you want. In fact, you'll have to wander around, because the government/corporations took your house and your car, and no one will hire you.

At which point you'll be arrested, not as some big anti-government hero by jackboot thugs, but for stealing bread to live on, by a perfectly normal cop who's just doing his job, a job that absolutely no one except you disagrees with, so when you shoot and kill him you're getting the electric chair and no one thinks you're a hero at all.

There are different types of totalitarian governments, and assuming a fascist one operates like a communist one is faulty. Fascist governments don't put troops in the streets...they work with corporations to make sure 'the wrong sort of people' do not have any economic power, and do not have anywhere to peddle their ideas.

Modern fascist states don't even bother to kill those people, and pretending they're going to show up in some stormtrooper outfit and start a gun battle with you is insane. They'll show up with a court order to evict you from your home because you failed to pay your mortgage, because pressure came from the top at your company to let you go. Or they'll just sue you and ruin your finances.

America is not a bunch of tiny castles where, as long as you can hold off the invading armies, you will be fine. The idea that that is how the world works is astonishingly naive. Almost all the population of America lives in housing they do not fully own, they get food from places they do not control like the supermarket, they require operating in society for money to obtain said food and shelter, a society where economics are controlled by some very large players that can crush them like bugs.

And a fascist state isn't going to 'assume control', you asshat. There's not going to some insane coup, there's a going to be a slow change, which has, in fact, already happened, or have you not looked at the telecom immunity stuff? That's classic fascism. The government breaks the law, the government gets private companies to break the law, the government gives said companies huge amounts of cash, the government attempts to make such behavior legal retroactively. We've got government officials and AT&T officers leaping back and forth between each other in an incestuous loop. Your government spying on you, sponsored by AT&T. It's not 'totalitarian' yet, as evidenced by the fact Democrats managed to stop the immunity, but it is fascism, at least the start of it. (And the same thing's happened with Blackwater.)

Oh, and before you start ranting about gun control some more, be forewarned I'm against it. I'm just not stupid enough to think that the US government being slowly corrupted by business is something that can be fought off with gunpowder. Guns are useful to deter crime and to deter invasion. They aren't useful against a corrupt government in any meaningful way.

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It's exactly what was portrayed in "They Live."
A perfectly able man like Roddy in a perpetual state of nomadism.

Modern Fascism is exploitation through regional statism and economic globalism. It happens when anti trust laws are not enforced locally and borders are dismantled.
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And now you fools are all worshiping an orange.
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And how far up Hillary or Obama's ass is your head? He caused all of this division and she was gonna finish it!
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And now you fools are all worshiping an orange.
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It's way better then a black faggot or crooked Hillary!



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And now you fools are all worshiping an orange.
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And how far up Hillary or Obama's ass is your head? He caused all of this division and she was gonna finish it!
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Never mind the NPC. He's sold his soul. Reprobate...

Even a troll who can actually think for himself won't touch this thread. Because it's the truth.
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My fear is that when the demonrats regain control of all three branches of gov't, they will use the meta-data to go after people whose electronic records show they are racist/xenophobic/sexist/etc. Imagine being jailed because "x" number of years ago you emailed someone a racist joke....or used the "N-word" in the privacy of your own home....or car.

Look at how much these people absolutely HATE us BEFORE you call me crazy please.


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This is an exceptionally real danger.

Especially when it comes to using Google or Gmail. They have full access to everything you've ever sent, and we all know what ideology Google is pushing forward.

Every text you've sent, everything is analyzed by the AI. All it takes is the Left getting in power and using an algorithm that goes through everything people have sent in search of 'Anti-PC' stances. Then it's off to the gulags.

This is a real danger. It's amazing how many people have forgotten (or never learned) that the same ideology(Leftism/Communism/Socialism/Collectivism) hell bent on seizing power today was responsible for well over 150 Million deaths of innocent people. That death toll is OUTSIDE of war casualties.

Go read Gulag Archipelago and recommend it to all of your friends.

If we don't manage to vote this shit out, or speak publicly about it, we're all done for. Anyone who's posted on a site like this will be added to the Algorithm.

Just look at the rhetoric the Left uses. Cory Booker had said recently "a cancer is spreading" referring to any of us who don't bow down to the PC Identity Politics Socialist agenda. That type of rhetoric leads to people wanting to cure the cancer. How do you get rid of cancer? You kill it. Don't hesitate for a second to think these people wouldn't round their perceived enemies up just like the hundreds of millions they got rid of last century.