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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.

 
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
once again I must register simply for one fact, to IGNORE this moron 'Truth Reaper"
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Loyalty is earned
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When you don't perform you can get the fuck out!
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


You're fired.
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And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


HAHAHAHA. you can't be serious. No HVAC guy works for that. If they do, then their IQ must be under 80. All the HVAC guys I know make at least 50k/yr. The top tier guys make 100k. Are you an okie from fanoke?
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Haha, slaves


Now speak of knowledge
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It would appear that your ability to communicate is limited to text blurbs. So goes the world.
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Totally agree.

Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years.

It's still "just around the corner"

The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage.

So.... no, fuck that.

In some instances, fuck that.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


this is why the corporate raiders got so many tricks up their sleeves, how to finagle control of the corporation, and once they get to decide what do with all the money, the heist of the corporation is complete, they can now legally steal EVERYTHING and DO steal everything.

they will move the company to mexico just to pump and dump the stock, they are absolute nihilists, they do not create wealth they DESTROY it, they destroy and steal everything people spent decades building and get away with, get away with billions.

why rob a bank when you can rob a corporation and the idiots think you are their boss.

it's exactly the same thing as a bank robber, walking into a bank with a suit on and a nametag and the idiots think they are the boss and hand them all the money
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i agree, if your boss built the company, and pays you a fair wage he's giving you life, he's saving your life in some cases.

i mean, if he expects you to just run yourself ragged to make himself a hefty profit, then he's exploiting you.

so whatever degree he's dealing fairly with y ou, he's a life saver and your master, you do owe him your life, your loyalty.

but that's hot really how most of these big corporations operate, and it's mostly big corporations.. your boss is just some faggot who got appointed by some other faggot in the bathroom and gets paid twice as much as you for doing 1/3 as much work and cares nothing about you.
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And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


HAHAHAHA. you can't be serious. No HVAC guy works for that. If they do, then their IQ must be under 80. All the HVAC guys I know make at least 50k/yr. The top tier guys make 100k. Are you an okie from fanoke?
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hesright


Perhaps the AC meant $124,000/yr plus bonus..

Now that would get some loyalty.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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02/09/2019 07:13 PM
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Loyalty is earned
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When you don't perform you can get the fuck out!
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Yep, same premise.
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


HAHAHAHA. you can't be serious. No HVAC guy works for that. If they do, then their IQ must be under 80. All the HVAC guys I know make at least 50k/yr. The top tier guys make 100k. Are you an okie from fanoke?
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hesright


Perhaps the AC meant $124,000/yr plus bonus..

Now that would get some loyalty.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yea... Full time burger flippers make more. Thats a wage to purposefully create the high turn over burn and turn business method. However this is the free market...

Thats a micro economy free market you couldnt get me to participate in if you held a gun to my head
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And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


HAHAHAHA. you can't be serious. No HVAC guy works for that. If they do, then their IQ must be under 80. All the HVAC guys I know make at least 50k/yr. The top tier guys make 100k. Are you an okie from fanoke?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


hesright


Perhaps the AC meant $124,000/yr plus bonus..

Now that would get some loyalty.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yea... Full time burger flippers make more. Thats a wage to purposefully create the high turn over burn and turn business method. However this is the free market...

Thats a micro economy free market you couldnt get me to participate in if you held a gun to my head
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He hired illegals!
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Totally agree.

Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years.

It's still "just around the corner"

The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage.

So.... no, fuck that.

In some instances, fuck that.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


You sir, need to move on. I suggest finding a minimum wage job and then tell your boss you need a $20 hour raise and 15k per year bonus for last 3 years or you must move on. Keep it clean and professional not emotional.
 Quoting: Xeven


Do people really think this is good money?
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And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


HAHAHAHA. you can't be serious. No HVAC guy works for that. If they do, then their IQ must be under 80. All the HVAC guys I know make at least 50k/yr. The top tier guys make 100k. Are you an okie from fanoke?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


hesright


Perhaps the AC meant $124,000/yr plus bonus..

Now that would get some loyalty.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yea... Full time burger flippers make more. Thats a wage to purposefully create the high turn over burn and turn business method. However this is the free market...

Thats a micro economy free market you couldnt get me to participate in if you held a gun to my head
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75618568


ohyeah

If true..it's criminal.

Rent is $1000/mo for a 1 bedroom. In what fantasy land does one live in to think that $24,000/year is not slave wage?


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02/09/2019 07:19 PM
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I owe my boss NOTHING you ear me! I work for a fair wage. Thats it.

Fu op
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02/09/2019 07:22 PM
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Nah. Maybe back when companies had some loyalty to their employees, but those days are long gone.

You're likely to do better salary wise by moving around a lot now (assuming you're actually good at what you do).
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02/09/2019 07:26 PM
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What a fucking dumbass company man.
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


I retired at 37. Went back to work at 43 out of boredom. How are you doing? I could probably retire you too.

I hear and see young guys fretting all the time. If only they realize there boss NEEDS them.
 Quoting: Xeven


Retire me bro 5a
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Nah. Maybe back when companies had some loyalty to their employees, but those days are long gone.

You're likely to do better salary wise by moving around a lot now (assuming you're actually good at what you do).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433839


corporate is ugly. I can't argue that. I've taken a few offers from big corporations to move from being an independent consultant/self employed to joining dark side and those periods of my life only lasted a few months each time.

the corporate ladder is entangled with vipers and monkeys with knives. If you can't be a 'yes man' that covers your bosses ass, then you CANNOT work in the big corporate world.

Small business is a different story. I'll stick with my conclusion that 80% of small businesses will abuse their employees as much as they can get away with. 20% are still run by real people that pay their employees a fair wage and reward good work.
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What a fucking dumbass company man.
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What a dumb ass unemployable shithead!
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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..

Last Edited by Seer777 on 02/09/2019 07:32 PM
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Hahahahaha. Fuck that, Ill never change who I am just so I can have a job.

All that matters is you do the work you are expected to do. Everything else is just bullshit.

Most large corporations dont give a flying fuck, they just want you to make them money.Your just a number to them. Never get personally attached to any of their shit thinking your gonna move up the corporate ladder.

At this point in my life I see hourly "work" as nothing but a waste of a life. Better off to do your own thing, sole owner/operator, no employees. If you can survive doing this, all those asshole "bosses" can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

Ive managed to keep from punching a damned time clock for over 20 years.
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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..
 Quoting: Seer777



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I have some dissent, but I have arrogant snobby standards.
Ok, I made a deal with someone and things are great.
Something happens and i say i need you to drive or do something else, even with someone else.
So.....it is i who have altered the deal some, even of I needed to.

I believe in due consideration of that. Bezo way is beneath my family's dignity. If the new thing sucks, I ought to be sensitive to the helper and accomodate as much as I can even if I have to add something I didn't plan. As the alterer, I acknowledge that some of the burden is on me.

Close help is like a sweden before islam. If you want loyalty, quality and care, you earn the respect and demomstrate the higher regard of your helpers and retainers. The best are regarded and you want the best you can obtain "indoors"

That's not the blue collar independents in the field or barns or factory, because it won't work there, it is still the same calories, by a diffetent formula that sucveeds in the environment.

But the small crew, that you depend on and is in-house, thier quality of esteem and contentment is directly relative to what you will get. If its not, you dismiss that and get a better settle-in long term that's stellar and worth what they get

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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..
 Quoting: Seer777


*sigh.

true. 'their' plan is in full swing. I've seen it evolve over the last 40 yrs and it just keeps getting uglier.

I'm not sure if the God of this planet will ever step in, but if not, there is no hope. Compassion for the youth? never happen except on an individual level. The modern mantra is 'kill the youth, destroy them mentally, emotionally, and physically'.

on another note, are you the same 'seer' that's been here for umpteen years? Always enjoyed your posts.
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I've worked with employers who treat their employees like dirt.

There's no reason to honor such people.
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Hahahahaha. Fuck that, Ill never change who I am just so I can have a job.

All that matters is you do the work you are expected to do. Everything else is just bullshit.

Most large corporations dont give a flying fuck, they just want you to make them money.Your just a number to them. Never get personally attached to any of their shit thinking your gonna move up the corporate ladder.

At this point in my life I see hourly "work" as nothing but a waste of a life. Better off to do your own thing, sole owner/operator, no employees. If you can survive doing this, all those asshole "bosses" can take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

Ive managed to keep from punching a damned time clock for over 20 years.
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ILYS-dude
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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..
 Quoting: Seer777


*sigh.

true. 'their' plan is in full swing. I've seen it evolve over the last 40 yrs and it just keeps getting uglier.

I'm not sure if the God of this planet will ever step in, but if not, there is no hope. Compassion for the youth? never happen except on an individual level. The modern mantra is 'kill the youth, destroy them mentally, emotionally, and physically'.

on another note, are you the same 'seer' that's been here for umpteen years? Always enjoyed your posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


Agree. Been trying to shine a light on it for years. And will keep doing it..because I do have compassion and nieces and nephews whose futures lives and those of their peers, matter to me and this great country I love.

Cheers. I've been here going on 8 years..

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You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out.

This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands.

They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day.

Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust.

This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy.

This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before.

Feel free to thank me with your next promotion.
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I don't owe a greedy selfish pc of shit company who lets pts die bc they cannot afford their medication s jack shit! They won't give us a raise, but they act like we owe them something all the time. Ill be so glad when this economic reset hits. I can't wait for these greedy fucks to be the first ones who put a gun in their mouths. They deserve it!
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until they lie to you. then you are off the hook
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You do not owe them any more than they owe you. Do you fuggin job and if others are not doing theirs or making it harder to do yours, move on to a different company. No one owes a company anything that they do not have ownership interest in. Remember, they can fire most people at will for whatever reason they want and you will not get two weeks, unless you are training your foreign replacement.
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


I retired at 37. Went back to work at 43 out of boredom. How are you doing? I could probably retire you too.

I hear and see young guys fretting all the time. If only they realize there boss NEEDS them.
 Quoting: Xeven


You have "fuck you money". Makes life much easier. I agree retiring early is difficult. We all need purpose though.