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This is why I hate unions. A union works to sabotage their employer.
 Quoting: BRIEF
Agree!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76640758
Corporations tend to promote people to their level of inability.
Unions are the natural reaction to corporations.
The customers are the ones getting sabotaged.

The currency needs to be returned to the people.
Working for foreign-owned debt notes is killing us all.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 02/09/2019 08:06 PM
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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..
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i really hesitated to watch that because I don't mix well with rap. but...

I watched it. It's the first 'rap type' song I've ever listened to in it's entirety.

Well done. Lyrics are great. Interesting to see Michelle Pfeiffer in it. I guess it comes from a movie.

It looks like it was done over 20 yrs ago and yet, it does paint the modern scenario more now than ever.
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The Boomers are the greediest generation that graced this Earth.

They have enriched themselves, while indebted their children, their grand children, and great grandchildren..while our infrastructure crumbles, and the 'American Dream' become little more than debt/slavery.

Just like the Chinese communist slaves and illegal immigrants they used, to rich from.

Let's not forget their sex and drug fueled, divorce accepted life styles, that gave us AIDS, and bailed out the Banks.


Now their obese, bloated, insulin dependent, cancer ridden bodies are gonna become more of 'our problems' while they damn the very youth they created.

It's a perfect storm..
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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I owe nobody any loyalty they haven't earned, either as an employee or employer. As an employee, I'm selling my skills and labor. I do the best job I possibly can because I'm self driven. The quality of my work and productivity are excellent. If you want more from me you can fuck off.
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It's already too late. The abject greed has forced the Millennials to stop breeding.

We have already reached Negative Population Growth.

It's over...barring some miracle of compassion for our youth..
 Quoting: Seer777



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 Quoting: Seer777


i really hesitated to watch that because I don't mix well with rap. but...

I watched it. It's the first 'rap type' song I've ever listened to in it's entirety.

Well done. Lyrics are great. Interesting to see Michelle Pfeiffer in it. I guess it comes from a movie.

It looks like it was done over 20 yrs ago and yet, it does paint the modern scenario more now than ever.
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It's from the 90's. I can't recall which movie.

Here it is..

1995. The year I graduated high school.


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I've worked with employers who treat their employees like dirt.

There's no reason to honor such people.
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Find a new job or be self employed. If not, take it up the ass at the dead end gig!

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I've worked with employers who treat their employees like dirt.

There's no reason to honor such people.
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Find a new job or be self employed. If not, take it up the ass at the dead end gig!
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No. :p

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You agreed to work for what your employer offered when you took the job. You didn't have a job so try to make the company some money! You might find that making them more money trickles down like Reagan said!

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As a tail-end Boomer, I can only point to the Ponzi scheme.
We were the first generation that it collapsed on.
Camelot died with Kennedy.
No more silver coins after '64.
No more copper pennies after '82.
End the Fed!

Last Edited by hillbilly on 02/09/2019 08:15 PM
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The Boomers are the greediest generation that graced this Earth.

They have enriched themselves, while indebted their children, their grand children, and great grandchildren..while our infrastructure crumbles, and the 'American Dream' become little more than debt/slavery.

Just like the Chinese communist slaves and illegal immigrants they used, to rich from.

Let's not forget their sex and drug fueled, divorce accepted life styles, that gave us AIDS, and bailed out the Banks.


Now their obese, bloated, insulin dependent, cancer ridden bodies are gonna become more of 'our problems' while they damn the very youth they created.

It's a perfect storm..
 Quoting: Seer777


lol. I don't see singling out a particular age group as the culprit to be a sound observation.

The major problems did occur during that time period, but my experience with baby boomers on a personal/business level does not evidence your conclusion.

what killed the nation is more fundamental. It started by figuring out a way to make both parents work with a combined income of what the single provider was previously making.

second was the destruction of the family unit which provided the youth with a strong foundation and support.

third was the idea of 'look out for number one'. SELF above all.

Fourth was the destruction of gender and identity. Take the roots right out of culture and send everyone into a secure state of mind of not knowing what the hell they are.

Fifth was to polarize the nation politically in order to cause division of people. To turn everyone against each other instead of against those that created the problem.
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As a boss, I felt I owed that to the great people on the crew.
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typo: insecure instead of 'secure'.

the boomers didn't create the problem, it was a slow degeneration of children over time which gave credence and support to those 5 tenants.

the true culprits are grinning because they are winning.

divide a people and they are easily conquered.
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
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No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


I retired at 37. Went back to work at 43 out of boredom. How are you doing? I could probably retire you too.

I hear and see young guys fretting all the time. If only they realize there boss NEEDS them.
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You say the BOSS NEEDS THE EMPLOYEE here, but I'm the OP, you say the BOSS DOESN'T OWE THE EMPLOYEE ANYTHING, and the BOSS CAN PICK SOME OTHER EMPLOYEE.

So which is it?? Makes sense to me that if the BOSS NEEDS THE EMPLOYEE, then in actual fact, the boss DOES owe the employee something.

If bosses would refrain from approaching the work environment as if it were an arena of conflict and confrontation, and instead look at the workplace they create as an arena of COOPERATION, then employees will cooperate in return.
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The Boomers are the greediest generation that graced this Earth.

They have enriched themselves, while indebted their children, their grand children, and great grandchildren..while our infrastructure crumbles, and the 'American Dream' become little more than debt/slavery.

Just like the Chinese communist slaves and illegal immigrants they used, to rich from.

Let's not forget their sex and drug fueled, divorce accepted life styles, that gave us AIDS, and bailed out the Banks.


Now their obese, bloated, insulin dependent, cancer ridden bodies are gonna become more of 'our problems' while they damn the very youth they created.

It's a perfect storm..
 Quoting: Seer777


lol. I don't see singling out a particular age group as the culprit to be a sound observation.

The major problems did occur during that time period, but my experience with baby boomers on a personal/business level does not evidence your conclusion.

what killed the nation is more fundamental. It started by figuring out a way to make both parents work with a combined income of what the single provider was previously making.

second was the destruction of the family unit which provided the youth with a strong foundation and support.

third was the idea of 'look out for number one'. SELF above all.

Fourth was the destruction of gender and identity. Take the roots right out of culture and send everyone into a secure state of mind of not knowing what the hell they are.

Fifth was to polarize the nation politically in order to cause division of people. To turn everyone against each other instead of against those that created the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


The Boomers parents and grandparents are spinning in their graves.. They who built this country and the Boomers in 1 generation, has nearly..destroyed it.

How many houses does the average Boomer you know have?

4? 5? 6?


I agree with all your points. It started in the 60s with the introduction of birth control.. Was it a plan for the eventual take over of communism?

With that AOC female...it is certainly looking like it. I know why she is gaining traction and it is terrifying to me.

There is nothing more dangerous than creating a generation with nothing to lose.

And I mean ALL Boomers..worldwide. Not just here.
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If you are not happy with the money offered then why did you take the fucking job in the first place? Quit wasting our fucking time!
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They pay you to do a job and you agreed. Do it without the crying or clean your fucking locker out and go!
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This is why I hate unions. A union works to sabotage their employer.
 Quoting: BRIEF
Agree!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76640758
Corporations tend to promote people to their level of inability.
Unions are the natural reaction to corporations.
The customers are the ones getting sabotaged.

The currency needs to be returned to the people.
Working for foreign-owned debt notes is killing us all.
 Quoting: hillbilly


Never liked Unions until I had a corrupt employer. Had worked for him for nearly 9 years and accrued hundreds of hours of sick and annual leave. Done the right thing and hardly had a sick day. Broke my ankle and needed to take some personal time and he refused to pay it out. Long story short, the Union supported me through it all and in the end I got a huge pay out because he was in the wrong. Could never had got through it without their support. Now happily pay my union fees each month because as I learnt - everything is skewed to the employer.
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Seer777,

sorry for the 'lol', I was laughing at your vivid descriptions of the 'boomer'.

yah, the older generation wouldn't even understand today.

It's just a very long term plan here, it didn't really 'start' with one generation. It's been in slo-mo for decades.

with a millions of 30+ old children living with parents, what happened? Is it the fault of just their parents? I think not. Sure good parenting is the root, but with kids growing up with the MSM teaching them that hard work is bad and that they deserve to live for free, it's tough to keep kids motivated.

Everyone has their choice to build something or freeload. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head.

It seems that everyone is sort of shrugging off reality here. Living in a numb state while blaming someone else for their misery.

Then the tards just say "hey dude, chill and smoke another bowl. It's all good." while inwardly they HATE what they have become. It still comes down to personal choice for everyone. Get up or stay down.
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Went back to work at 43 out of boredom.
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No hobby? Volunteer? Politics? Breed?

But go back to punching a clock?

norespect

Absurd story, what even is your point? Do many job roles and remain underpaid? (per industry averages)

As for moving on, that's true but most jobs are like other jobs... it's a job.
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I've worked with employers who treat their employees like dirt.

There's no reason to honor such people.
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Yeah the "profits far exceed the extra costs" factory places like japs do.
Thats why bezo the bozo has a story come out about every month, about his stressed out, brow beat, slave driven employees and how they fk up what they're doing, because people are as much or more the person they don't really notice, but will be, as the person they consciously intend to be. You crank around on 'em without regard and the number of all negatives rises. Talk means little to the practical subconcious mind, which in most has esteem and dignity that will become conflicted to the level of frustration. I don't want to perpetually fix sh*t and compensate for losses and call that normal, I want them to fix stuff and actively prevent losses because they mean to.

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What a fucking dumbass company man.
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What a dumb ass unemployable shithead!
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Yes, I am unemployable. Made my $6+ million on Wall Street. 31 years old and now investing in all kinds of shit. I prefer to not work for anyone else.

Thanks!!
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Seer777,

sorry for the 'lol', I was laughing at your vivid descriptions of the 'boomer'.

yah, the older generation wouldn't even understand today.

It's just a very long term plan here, it didn't really 'start' with one generation. It's been in slo-mo for decades.

with a millions of 30+ old children living with parents, what happened? Is it the fault of just their parents? I think not. Sure good parenting is the root, but with kids growing up with the MSM teaching them that hard work is bad and that they deserve to live for free, it's tough to keep kids motivated.

Everyone has their choice to build something or freeload. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head.

It seems that everyone is sort of shrugging off reality here. Living in a numb state while blaming someone else for their misery.

Then the tards just say "hey dude, chill and smoke another bowl. It's all good." while inwardly they HATE what they have become. It still comes down to personal choice for everyone. Get up or stay down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


I get passionate. Especially over this issue. And I don't blame all Boomers. Many are great people. Hard workers.

But many aren't. And served themselves endlessly. Cronyism, lying, and absolute theft.


It's because everything is sooooo expensive.

$100,000/yr is a bare minimum to live without constant financial worry for a family of 4 in todays USA.

Both parents working, without job loss, medical issue, accident, for any reason..can keep that up for..how long before something or someone breaks?

They live with their parents, because their parents took their future away..when they started asking $350,000 for a house they bought for $27,000 in 1977 and put them $100,000 in college debt to buy a job.

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What a fucking dumbass company man.
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What a dumb ass unemployable shithead!
 Quoting: Truth Reaper


Yes, I am unemployable. Made my $6+ million on Wall Street. 31 years old and now investing in all kinds of shit. I prefer to not work for anyone else.

Thanks!!
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You're lying.
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The rich don't waste time posting as AC's!
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What a fucking dumbass company man.
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What a dumb ass unemployable shithead!
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Made my $6+ million on Wall Street. 31 years old and now investing in all kinds of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77098490


laugh1
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Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else...

My dad's oldest brother and his..wife.

She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll. She was short, fat, and ugly and..rude. I could never understand what my uncle saw in her.

Other than maybe her constant disability payments. Recently she had knee surgery and lo and behold..ended up with MRSA.. She has been in a hospital unit for 40 straight days..costing us..God knows how much while she waits for the infection to subside so they can replace said knee. Why they didn't cut her damn leg off..months ago is beyond my understanding.

But here is the real kicker..my dad's other brother went to speak to her a couple weeks back to tell her, her husband, my fat, racist uncle, was never in Vietnam as the decorated tank commander he told everyone he was..and instead in prison for statutory rape on a 15 year old girl, he and 2 of his buddies assaulted back in the 60s..


He is currently on the waiting list for a new heart..being a fat, fuck for 40 years..will do that.
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Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else...

My dad's oldest brother and his..wife.

She has been on disability since the 90s for some knee issue.. From the first time I met her in my teens, I thought she resembled a bridge troll.
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rofl5
"Do you believe in an afterlife?" the gunslinger asked him as Brown dropped three ears of hot corn onto his plate.

Brown nodded. "I think this is it."
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Seer777,

sorry for the 'lol', I was laughing at your vivid descriptions of the 'boomer'.

yah, the older generation wouldn't even understand today.

It's just a very long term plan here, it didn't really 'start' with one generation. It's been in slo-mo for decades.

with a millions of 30+ old children living with parents, what happened? Is it the fault of just their parents? I think not. Sure good parenting is the root, but with kids growing up with the MSM teaching them that hard work is bad and that they deserve to live for free, it's tough to keep kids motivated.

Everyone has their choice to build something or freeload. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head.

It seems that everyone is sort of shrugging off reality here. Living in a numb state while blaming someone else for their misery.

Then the tards just say "hey dude, chill and smoke another bowl. It's all good." while inwardly they HATE what they have become. It still comes down to personal choice for everyone. Get up or stay down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


I get passionate. Especially over this issue. And I don't blame all Boomers. Many are great people. Hard workers.

But many aren't. And served themselves endlessly. Cronyism, lying, and absolute theft.


It's because everything is sooooo expensive.

$100,000/yr is a bare minimum to live without constant financial worry for a family of 4 in todays USA.

Both parents working, without job loss, medical issue, accident, for any reason..can keep that up for..how long before something or someone breaks?

They live with their parents, because their parents took their future away..when they started asking $350,000 for a house they bought for $27,000 in 1977 and put them $100,000 in college debt to buy a job.

The pot is a pacifier.
 Quoting: Seer777


the effects of printing money is the current culprit that has exponentially increased the curve of descent into hell.

we are seeing inflation and cost of living rise beyond what can be afforded.

when the cost of living becomes higher than what can be afforded by the masses, we will have , here in the U.S., what is now happening in France and Italy. Those people are not complaining just about gas taxes, they can't live on their incomes. Those people are working and then protesting on the weekends ...because they are workers, not freeloaders.

it's speeding up. The quantitative easing (free money) bubble is about to pop.

when the same rioting in France spreads to Italy and other nations and begins to burn hot, we can count the months before it happens in the U.S. . ... but me thinks that a FF will hit the U.S. before it reaches here. TPTB can't permit a war against the govt. It has to happen between people.
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Here's the thing that bugs me on top of everything else...

My dad's oldest brother and his..wife.

 Quoting: Seer777


yah, when this shit hits you at home, it gets real. Real ugly.

I guess that's one reason that I learned early on to have 'arms lengths' relationships with everyone except my wife/children. The outside world has gone to hell...for the most part anyways.