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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.

 
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What if you work for Harvey Weinstein???
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


Loser

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~Arthur C. Clarke

"He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda!" ~David Mills ~ Se7en


"THE PLANET IS FINE! THE PEOPLE ARE FUCKED" ~George Carlin
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Don't agree at all. You get hired, you do the work, you get paid. That's the end of the story.

If some other company offers you more, you leave and work for them.

Selling your time and labor is about taking care of your family and yourself. It is never, ever about loyalty to a company.
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Loser

"I don't give a tuppenny fuck about your moral conundrum, you meat-headed shit-sack." ~Bill the Butcher

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~Arthur C. Clarke

"He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda!" ~David Mills ~ Se7en


"THE PLANET IS FINE! THE PEOPLE ARE FUCKED" ~George Carlin
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Not only no but HELL NO! you don't owe them anything other than to do the the best you can at the task you were hired to perform for an agreed upon amount of $ and X amount of hours.

Loyalty is earned and you are blessed if you have an employer/employee that is worthy of your loyalty.
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Loser

"I don't give a tuppenny fuck about your moral conundrum, you meat-headed shit-sack." ~Bill the Butcher

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." ~Arthur C. Clarke

"He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda!" ~David Mills ~ Se7en


"THE PLANET IS FINE! THE PEOPLE ARE FUCKED" ~George Carlin
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02/09/2019 11:58 PM

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Don't agree at all. You get hired, you do the work, you get paid. That's the end of the story.

If some other company offers you more, you leave and work for them.

Selling your time and labor is about taking care of your family and yourself. It is never, ever about loyalty to a company.
 Quoting: speedychef


Loser
 Quoting: Chip


Not only no but HELL NO! you don't owe them anything other than to do the the best you can at the task you were hired to perform for an agreed upon amount of $ and X amount of hours.

Loyalty is earned and you are blessed if you have an employer/employee that is worthy of your loyalty.
 Quoting: janedoenut


Loser
 Quoting: Chip



How is he a loser for those quotes? As an executive in the corporate world if I mentioned loyalty in a management meeting in any of the companies I had worked for I would get laughed at for being a fool. Those quotes above would be repeated and I have heard them repeated.

In theory I agree loyalty, particularly for family businesses. Corporate America however laughs at your loyalty.

I wish I had known this when I was younger. I gave loyalty to people and companies that did not deserve it.

You have to look out for yourself since no one else will. Especially those you give loyalty to who spit upon your loyalty and work ethic due to whatever insecurities, emotional or mental issues some people have. More often some will considering selling or merging the company resulting in laying offs to make a buck for themselves without a second thought about your loyalty.

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02/10/2019 12:29 AM
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You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out.

This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands.

They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day.

Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust.

This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy.

This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before.

Feel free to thank me with your next promotion.
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02/10/2019 12:52 AM
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Too bad the people who do the hiring have no loyalty at all to you. You are a number and a burden. If you are no longer needed you will be dismissed with nary a thought towards loyalty.

I just realized this is a fishing clik bait post ahh bitch you got me.
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02/10/2019 12:58 AM
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No you don't. You have a skill. They have a need.
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


Loser
 Quoting: Chip


fuck you
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02/10/2019 01:01 AM
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You owe only if you have ownership in the company. Other than that you owe them shit because you are shit in their minds. Start something that has value or figure out how the company you work for values you enough to give you a part of it or go elsewhere. You have nothing if you do not have a percentage in the company.
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02/10/2019 01:57 AM
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...


Maybe God said fuck it to his children
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


It does feel like that.

I cry about it a lot.
 Quoting: Seer777


I have said for a long time, in regards to trials and tribulations, you have two choices. Choose to over come it and for it to make you stronger or allow it to pull you deeper into the void.

I wish you luck and hope the best for you and your family.
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


No one in the world deserves this..less than her.

And it challenges my faith..and my anger..every day.


Thank you. I hope to. My only wish..is for a cure.

I wish nor want, for anything else more..


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 Quoting: Seer777


Don't go the way of Dolores. Going dark doesn't hurt God, it only hurts you. Destroying yourself accomplishes nothing and it only makes you feel like shit.

you already know that the path is within. the light is within. This place is not what most think it is. Shake it off and walk on.

btw. I love that tv series. lol.
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02/10/2019 02:00 AM
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This is why I hate unions. A union works to sabotage their employer.
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" I hate the American worker. The 'most competetive price is the best option. Skilled labor is a total myth." Good luck with that house framed up by 'The Donald' personally, *With* the 'most competetively priced labor 'he' can find.
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out.

This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands.

They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day.

Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust.

This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy.

This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before.

Feel free to thank me with your next promotion.
 Quoting: Xeven


Eat shit and die. Inalways work formmyself, no matter what the job is.
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02/10/2019 02:21 AM
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You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
 Quoting: Xeven


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


wrong. when you accept the position, it is on THEIR terms, not your snowflake judgement.

you have the right to quit at any time if you disagree.

You are one of those that have trouble following. The best leaders are the best followers. yah, i realize you don't understand a fkn thing that I am saying, but it's true. Time to grow up.

I bet you use the word 'should' and 'shouldn't' in your daily intercourse with others. You always look at your world as a victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


You are describing a slave-master relationship, not a employee-employer relationship.

As a former employer I know what I'm talking about.


The employees dont need the employer .... the employer needs the employees. Without a happy work environment, happy employee morale, your company turns to shit real fast. Companies with poor leadership who abuse and take advantage of employees learn real fast that the employees are the ones who are the driving force and stability of company.




Time to grow up.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76869839


I'm a lot older than you son. And you have much to learn in life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


You are correct. My grandfather had the largest Chrysler dealership in the country back in the 1960's. His secret? He paid his employees more than anyone else and he expected the best in the business in return. No demands for "loyalty," just 8 hours of busting your ass.
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No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


...


No you don't.

Loyalty is earned, not bought.

The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659


You're fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses.
I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73744852


your two top employees earn 24k? Jesus Christ, you're a stingy fuck.
 Quoting: nimmerfall


Not when they're from Honduras and here illegally.
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02/10/2019 03:41 AM
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Totally agree.

Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years.

It's still "just around the corner"

The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage.

So.... no, fuck that.

In some instances, fuck that.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


You sir, need to move on. I suggest finding a minimum wage job and then tell your boss you need a $20 hour raise and 15k per year bonus for last 3 years or you must move on. Keep it clean and professional not emotional.
 Quoting: Xeven


Is this a joke?
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well, if my Boss is promoted Godfather of all Godfathers in New York without having to kill anyone, I'd be proud of my job. Because after all, he gave birth to a God and he is a "spiritual" father of some sort. Even though I am not from his world and neither he isn't from mine, we share the same Underworld and we shall both rule as Lord and Emperor within our own reach.

Hence, a Covenant is Born.
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Did someone say they had a job?

I'd love one been looking for gainful employment
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You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out.

This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands.

They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day.

Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust.

This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy.

This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before.

Feel free to thank me with your next promotion.
 Quoting: Xeven


that's right slave, they are your God because they have money. Christ God only matters one hour a week, the other 50 hours of the week you belong to your paymaster and he is your owner. just because you don't sleep on the hay in his barn and eat oats from a bag he fastens around your neck doesn't change anything, in fact, it's even worse, because he needs to do absolutely NOTHING to care for you other than hand you little pieces of paper
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77359162


Yeah that .. If a boss treats you well and is your friend sure then he can earn your loyalty. giving automatic loyalty because someone writes your checks is bullshit.

Last Edited by Violetag on 02/10/2019 05:07 AM
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Red lines exist so you can quit any time.
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Re: You owe the person who hired you, loyalty.
Totally agree.

Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years.

It's still "just around the corner"

The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage.

So.... no, fuck that.

In some instances, fuck that.
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


^^^^^ this

I have a highly technical job and work for a multi-billion dollar worldwide corporation.

I dont make minimum wage, but in three years, I have only gotten a total of 1.4% raise.

As well, my company recently raised their new hire wage to what I currently make. So, all new hires, with no expierence in the industry, now make what I make. I have worked in this industry for 23 years, 3 years at my current position, I have a recent and relevant college degree, and after three years at this place, i now make what they hire a new inexperienced employee at.

There are people in my department who do nothing until overtime is activated. These people also have no personal life. They would live at work if they could.

I have children and a family, and do not want some no life ass holes at my work setting the standard for overtime expectations. I bust my ass and get far more done in eight hours than these jerks get done in 12 hours, and it goes un-noticed because my spineless boss is afraid to tell these slackers to get more done on straight time. There are people in my department who have worked there longer than the department manager (my boss), so they are untouchable and my boss let's them do what they want, because hes a pussy, and then all the real responsibility fall on me.

Fuck my pussy spineless boss. I owe him nothing, and he owes me a higher wage.
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I've never gotten loyalty from any employer.
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You are the slave and he's the master, otherwise you would have your own business.
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I've never gotten loyalty from any employer.
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You are the slave and he's the master, otherwise you would have your own business.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Slavery, really? iamwith
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Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing

your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game.

that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life
 Quoting: ChiChiChis


Money is simply your work turned into a usable means of universally accepted currency for trade and barter.

Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/10/2019 05:30 AM
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If you never learned that WORK = Money then you will always be a victim.
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I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out.

This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands.

They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day.

Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust.

This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy.

This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before.

Feel free to thank me with your next promotion.


You never mold your ethics to anyone moron. Yur ethics are personal and sometimes it means having to do something that even harms yourself to get things revealed. You need to take ethics as you don't understand it.


 Quoting: Xeven
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You know BOSS is an acronym right?

It stands for Big Ole Sausage and Sack
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BULLSHIT....I provide a service others can not....that is why I would have been hired.....you keep pennies from me then you can go fuck yourself....you share the wealth and I'll be a loyal worker!
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I only owe the one person that aided me in adult life when no one else did. Period.