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mikerock User ID: 2314202 United States 02/09/2019 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't agree at all. You get hired, you do the work, you get paid. That's the end of the story. Quoting: speedychef If some other company offers you more, you leave and work for them. Selling your time and labor is about taking care of your family and yourself. It is never, ever about loyalty to a company. Loser Not only no but HELL NO! you don't owe them anything other than to do the the best you can at the task you were hired to perform for an agreed upon amount of $ and X amount of hours. Quoting: janedoenut Loyalty is earned and you are blessed if you have an employer/employee that is worthy of your loyalty. Loser How is he a loser for those quotes? As an executive in the corporate world if I mentioned loyalty in a management meeting in any of the companies I had worked for I would get laughed at for being a fool. Those quotes above would be repeated and I have heard them repeated. In theory I agree loyalty, particularly for family businesses. Corporate America however laughs at your loyalty. I wish I had known this when I was younger. I gave loyalty to people and companies that did not deserve it. You have to look out for yourself since no one else will. Especially those you give loyalty to who spit upon your loyalty and work ethic due to whatever insecurities, emotional or mental issues some people have. More often some will considering selling or merging the company resulting in laying offs to make a buck for themselves without a second thought about your loyalty. Last Edited by mikerock on 02/10/2019 12:27 AM |
Guy Aitcox User ID: 76435624 United States 02/10/2019 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out. Quoting: Xeven This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands. They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust. This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy. This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before. Feel free to thank me with your next promotion. Things are never so simple. I am withholding information that can save lives. Ask me a question |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73112757 United States 02/10/2019 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad the people who do the hiring have no loyalty at all to you. You are a number and a burden. If you are no longer needed you will be dismissed with nary a thought towards loyalty. I just realized this is a fishing clik bait post ahh bitch you got me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73511827 United States 02/10/2019 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You owe only if you have ownership in the company. Other than that you owe them shit because you are shit in their minds. Start something that has value or figure out how the company you work for values you enough to give you a part of it or go elsewhere. You have nothing if you do not have a percentage in the company. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76869839 United States 02/10/2019 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have said for a long time, in regards to trials and tribulations, you have two choices. Choose to over come it and for it to make you stronger or allow it to pull you deeper into the void. I wish you luck and hope the best for you and your family. No one in the world deserves this..less than her. And it challenges my faith..and my anger..every day. Thank you. I hope to. My only wish..is for a cure. I wish nor want, for anything else more.. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Don't go the way of Dolores. Going dark doesn't hurt God, it only hurts you. Destroying yourself accomplishes nothing and it only makes you feel like shit. you already know that the path is within. the light is within. This place is not what most think it is. Shake it off and walk on. btw. I love that tv series. lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68684351 United States 02/10/2019 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " I hate the American worker. The 'most competetive price is the best option. Skilled labor is a total myth." Good luck with that house framed up by 'The Donald' personally, *With* the 'most competetively priced labor 'he' can find. |
Crimea River User ID: 77001786 United States 02/10/2019 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out. Quoting: Xeven This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands. They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust. This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy. This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before. Feel free to thank me with your next promotion. Eat shit and die. Inalways work formmyself, no matter what the job is. |
The Ghost of Comedian User ID: 49838646 United States 02/10/2019 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No you don't. Loyalty is earned, not bought. The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself. wrong. when you accept the position, it is on THEIR terms, not your snowflake judgement. you have the right to quit at any time if you disagree. You are one of those that have trouble following. The best leaders are the best followers. yah, i realize you don't understand a fkn thing that I am saying, but it's true. Time to grow up. I bet you use the word 'should' and 'shouldn't' in your daily intercourse with others. You always look at your world as a victim. You are describing a slave-master relationship, not a employee-employer relationship. As a former employer I know what I'm talking about. The employees dont need the employer .... the employer needs the employees. Without a happy work environment, happy employee morale, your company turns to shit real fast. Companies with poor leadership who abuse and take advantage of employees learn real fast that the employees are the ones who are the driving force and stability of company. I'm a lot older than you son. And you have much to learn in life. You are correct. My grandfather had the largest Chrysler dealership in the country back in the 1960's. His secret? He paid his employees more than anyone else and he expected the best in the business in return. No demands for "loyalty," just 8 hours of busting your ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49838646 United States 02/10/2019 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 No you don't. Loyalty is earned, not bought. The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 No you don't. Loyalty is earned, not bought. The only person you need to be loyal to is yourself. You're fired. And I will add I own a HVAC Company. My two top employees received a total of $24,000 + yearly Bonuses. I can cancel bonuses at anytime, loyalty to me is just looking out for my company. Period. your two top employees earn 24k? Jesus Christ, you're a stingy fuck. Not when they're from Honduras and here illegally. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74728734 United States 02/10/2019 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree. Quoting: Wharf Rat Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years. It's still "just around the corner" The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage. So.... no, fuck that. In some instances, fuck that. You sir, need to move on. I suggest finding a minimum wage job and then tell your boss you need a $20 hour raise and 15k per year bonus for last 3 years or you must move on. Keep it clean and professional not emotional. Is this a joke? |
The_Smiling User ID: 75590612 Canada 02/10/2019 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, if my Boss is promoted Godfather of all Godfathers in New York without having to kill anyone, I'd be proud of my job. Because after all, he gave birth to a God and he is a "spiritual" father of some sort. Even though I am not from his world and neither he isn't from mine, we share the same Underworld and we shall both rule as Lord and Emperor within our own reach. Hence, a Covenant is Born. The_Smiling |
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Violetag User ID: 77139758 Netherlands 02/10/2019 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out. Quoting: Xeven This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands. They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust. This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy. This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before. Feel free to thank me with your next promotion. that's right slave, they are your God because they have money. Christ God only matters one hour a week, the other 50 hours of the week you belong to your paymaster and he is your owner. just because you don't sleep on the hay in his barn and eat oats from a bag he fastens around your neck doesn't change anything, in fact, it's even worse, because he needs to do absolutely NOTHING to care for you other than hand you little pieces of paper Yeah that .. If a boss treats you well and is your friend sure then he can earn your loyalty. giving automatic loyalty because someone writes your checks is bullshit. Last Edited by Violetag on 02/10/2019 05:07 AM Kryten |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72947885 United States 02/10/2019 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally agree. Quoting: Wharf Rat Except I've worked my way up from PT dishwasher to FT head of kitchen prep, and I haven't gotten a raise since in four years. It's still "just around the corner" The owner is a multi-millonaire, and now I make 25 cents more than minimim wage. So.... no, fuck that. In some instances, fuck that. ^^^^^ this I have a highly technical job and work for a multi-billion dollar worldwide corporation. I dont make minimum wage, but in three years, I have only gotten a total of 1.4% raise. As well, my company recently raised their new hire wage to what I currently make. So, all new hires, with no expierence in the industry, now make what I make. I have worked in this industry for 23 years, 3 years at my current position, I have a recent and relevant college degree, and after three years at this place, i now make what they hire a new inexperienced employee at. There are people in my department who do nothing until overtime is activated. These people also have no personal life. They would live at work if they could. I have children and a family, and do not want some no life ass holes at my work setting the standard for overtime expectations. I bust my ass and get far more done in eight hours than these jerks get done in 12 hours, and it goes un-noticed because my spineless boss is afraid to tell these slackers to get more done on straight time. There are people in my department who have worked there longer than the department manager (my boss), so they are untouchable and my boss let's them do what they want, because hes a pussy, and then all the real responsibility fall on me. Fuck my pussy spineless boss. I owe him nothing, and he owes me a higher wage. |
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BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 02/10/2019 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money is just pieces of paper, worth nothing. work is actual toil, sweat, blood. you owe the person paying you money nothing Quoting: ChiChiChis your employer owes you for exploiting you with satan's gimmick and con game. that money was issued by satan himself, to other satanists and it eventually trickled down to an evil person they knew, who eventually got to use it to fuck you in the ass every minute of your life Money is simply your work turned into a usable means of universally accepted currency for trade and barter. Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/10/2019 05:30 AM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76335367 Canada 02/10/2019 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get moved to other bosses, but ultimately, who ever is your direct manager or direct report has hired you or accepted you as part of their team. If there is weirdness there or his policy is not to your liking then YOU should move on if you cannot work it out. Quoting: Xeven This person accepted you to their team, they have put their own success partially, maybe wholeheartedly in your hands. They owe you nothing, they could chose thousands of other people, yet they chose or choose you every day. Ultimately you should mold your own work ethics, style and performance to their expectation. You two are a team, like it or not. He/she will take the pain and sometimes the heat from your failure or NOT. The not times come when you have disrupted the trust. This is how you move ahead. Make your boss believe you are essential to their success and get THEM promoted. They will almost always bring you along. They were likely there where you are at some point, and they likely have a boss too. Help your boss make his boss happy. This rant is n case no body ever opened your eyes before. Feel free to thank me with your next promotion. You never mold your ethics to anyone moron. Yur ethics are personal and sometimes it means having to do something that even harms yourself to get things revealed. You need to take ethics as you don't understand it. |
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IO User ID: 77121933 United States 02/10/2019 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owe is also we O or ow e like a bruise. When someone reaches across the cosmos to save your ass and nurture you into a better person and build up your skills, get on your fucking knees and volunteer and do what is asked of you until the next opportunity comes forward. To do otherwise is to look a gift horse in the mouth - to bite the hand that feeds you - to rebel for the sake of rebellion is simply not an option. Loyalty is mutual self interest through and implied unwritten contract - aka, ones word. I don’t give a flying fuck but fighting is not an option. Blind obedience is not an option. Loyalty to the cause and goal is the only option. Being in the moment and hitting numbers is the only option. Learning through serving is the only option... for all of us. Anyone without that mindset is dead in the water. If I am wrong, then take me out... I owe the people that are and have made me a better, smarter, and savvier person. Break me down and build me up... whatever it takes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68025210 Canada 02/10/2019 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owe is also we O or ow e like a bruise. When someone reaches across the cosmos to save your ass and nurture you into a better person and build up your skills, get on your fucking knees and volunteer and do what is asked of you until the next opportunity comes forward. To do otherwise is to look a gift horse in the mouth - to bite the hand that feeds you - to rebel for the sake of rebellion is simply not an option. Loyalty is mutual self interest through and implied unwritten contract - aka, ones word. Quoting: IO 77121933 I don’t give a flying fuck but fighting is not an option. Blind obedience is not an option. Loyalty to the cause and goal is the only option. Being in the moment and hitting numbers is the only option. Learning through serving is the only option... for all of us. Anyone without that mindset is dead in the water. If I am wrong, then take me out... I owe the people that are and have made me a better, smarter, and savvier person. Break me down and build me up... whatever it takes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77215396 United States 02/10/2019 06:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work=money for upper management you mean. Lots of it. Meanwhile the people that bust their asses the hardest continue to barely get by. You seem to think a lot like the Rothchilds/Rockerfellers, and other self styled elitists. You've got the sociopathic 'let them eat cake' mentality. You've got plenty of wealth,so when others struggle daily it's not your problem right? Yeah how did that kind of mindset work out for the elitist class in evolutionary France? We'll have the same result here eventually if the elitists continue ton gut the poor and middle class,while reaping increasingly obscene profits for themselves. Get over your God complex fellas. You're NOTHING without the working class,that keeps your businesses running. |