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In this history of rock n roll, who do you most wish wouldn't have died?

 
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That's an interesting perspective on Old Hank, OP. I like it.

For me, I'd have to say Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy. He was so underrated and Thin Lizzy had a lot of awesome songs other than the two hits you hear on the radio.
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Phil Lynott......one thousand percent

He was like a totally exposed filament, burned so brightly that there was no way it could last...

But if he had sobered up-- a bit more, I mean--- yes, I totally see him reinvigorating the stagnant 80s and early 90s scene, because Phil was really, really special... he could have done anything. He could have worked with early rap artists, for example.

Also, another 6 or 7 Thin Lizzy albums wouldn't have been too much to ask. I think he would have done a lot, had he lived longer.

Great call, bud.
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Terry Kath
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At first I was like, Toby Keith???
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listen to the guitar in this song and tell me this isnt the greatest musical loss ever that we know of ....

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Brian Jones
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That's an interesting perspective on Old Hank, OP. I like it.

For me, I'd have to say Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy. He was so underrated and Thin Lizzy had a lot of awesome songs other than the two hits you hear on the radio.
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Phil Lynott......one thousand percent

He was like a totally exposed filament, burned so brightly that there was no way it could last...

But if he had sobered up-- a bit more, I mean--- yes, I totally see him reinvigorating the stagnant 80s and early 90s scene, because Phil was really, really special... he could have done anything. He could have worked with early rap artists, for example.

Also, another 6 or 7 Thin Lizzy albums wouldn't have been too much to ask. I think he would have done a lot, had he lived longer.

Great call, bud.
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Someone posted a song on here a couple months ago, it was a collaboration of him and someone else... I can't find it at the moment, I had never heard it before, it was about war and it was totally 80s and a bit "80s cheesy", I don't know how else to describe it lol. But Phil made it cool, his voice is one of a kind and stands out.
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Brian Jones
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I think of him every time I hear Hendrix's (version of) "All Along the Watchtower"

Brian Jones came in to play bass----- then piano---- and winded up simply playing a 'Vibrothwack' on the intro, because he was too drunk to play in key, on piano, or bass.

But he's there, on the official Hendrix version, in the beginning... VERY beginning...right after

Du-du DO-DO-DO-DO *thwack!!* du-du dudududu... that's Brian Jones!

And yes, he did also found the Stones, and was largely and unfairly written off, despite his crucial role.
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That's an interesting perspective on Old Hank, OP. I like it.

For me, I'd have to say Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy. He was so underrated and Thin Lizzy had a lot of awesome songs other than the two hits you hear on the radio.
 Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq.


Phil Lynott......one thousand percent

He was like a totally exposed filament, burned so brightly that there was no way it could last...

But if he had sobered up-- a bit more, I mean--- yes, I totally see him reinvigorating the stagnant 80s and early 90s scene, because Phil was really, really special... he could have done anything. He could have worked with early rap artists, for example.

Also, another 6 or 7 Thin Lizzy albums wouldn't have been too much to ask. I think he would have done a lot, had he lived longer.

Great call, bud.
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Someone posted a song on here a couple months ago, it was a collaboration of him and someone else... I can't find it at the moment, I had never heard it before, it was about war and it was totally 80s and a bit "80s cheesy", I don't know how else to describe it lol. But Phil made it cool, his voice is one of a kind and stands out.

^^^ This
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Patsy Cline.

Guess I’m dating myself with that one, eh?
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Love her.
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Found it. Can't embed from my phone though. Gary Moore and Phil Lynott - "Out in the Fields".
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Found it. Can't embed from my phone though. Gary Moore and Phil Lynott - "Out in the Fields".
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Cool! I will definitely check that out! Thanks Zorro
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As in, died waaaayyy too young.


Lots of choices, sadly.


I think about this a lot. And out of everybody, from Jimi to John Lennon, and too many mention in between...

for me, honestly?

Hank Williams.

I think he would have really gotten pissed off at crappy 50's/60's pop, and would have single-handedly invented some form of rock and roll we can only imagine....

Except I *try* to imagine, but I can't hear it.

So I keep thinking about it.

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My second choice, would actually be Hendrix, because he was SO DAMN GOOD he would definitely have played with everybody in the 70s and 80s (and 90s) had he lived, and I am 1000% sure he would have left his mark on metal, punk, 70s soul, country, prolly would have made a great record with Bob Marley.... oh yeah, can't you see it?

Can't you smell it?
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It would have to be Jerry . There was nothing that could compare ever!
And I’ve seen tons of bands from metal to shitty Cyprus hill.
Pink Floyd was even a let down compared to what jgb and dead and reconstruction and the rest of it put out.
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jerry based his whole repetoire on this one song by the elevators (stacy sutherland was the guitarist) the elevators stole the show at the avalon quick silver grace slick etc. opened for the elevators janis got her scream from the elevators lead singer roky erikson

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Karen Carpenter.

Only because she was so talented and a great cross-over artist.

And she was a nice person.
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Okay, cool. Thanks for that, I'll check into her!
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I agree, Karen Carpenter. Even though as a prog rock fan, I think KC had the best female voice I ever heard.

Check out the YT on The Carpenters doing a cover of "Ticket to Ride" by The Beatles. This was recorded at Lake Tahoe the year before their first album was released. I think she as only 18 at the time.
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As in, died waaaayyy too young.


Lots of choices, sadly.


I think about this a lot. And out of everybody, from Jimi to John Lennon, and too many mention in between...

for me, honestly?

Hank Williams.

I think he would have really gotten pissed off at crappy 50's/60's pop, and would have single-handedly invented some form of rock and roll we can only imagine....

Except I *try* to imagine, but I can't hear it.

So I keep thinking about it.

1dunno1

My second choice, would actually be Hendrix, because he was SO DAMN GOOD he would definitely have played with everybody in the 70s and 80s (and 90s) had he lived, and I am 1000% sure he would have left his mark on metal, punk, 70s soul, country, prolly would have made a great record with Bob Marley.... oh yeah, can't you see it?

Can't you smell it?
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


It would have to be Jerry . There was nothing that could compare ever!
And I’ve seen tons of bands from metal to shitty Cyprus hill.
Pink Floyd was even a let down compared to what jgb and dead and reconstruction and the rest of it put out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53785155


jerry based his whole repetoire on this one song by the elevators (stacy sutherland was the guitarist) the elevators stole the show at the avalon quick silver grace slick etc. opened for the elevators janis got her scream from the elevators lead singer roky erikson

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jimi hendrix

John Bonham


who SHOULD be dead?

Steve Miller

Elton John

bruce springstien

paul simon

paul mccartney (for committing musical fellony with Wings)

Bono

Sting
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As in, died waaaayyy too young.


Lots of choices, sadly.


I think about this a lot. And out of everybody, from Jimi to John Lennon, and too many mention in between...

for me, honestly?

Hank Williams.

I think he would have really gotten pissed off at crappy 50's/60's pop, and would have single-handedly invented some form of rock and roll we can only imagine....

Except I *try* to imagine, but I can't hear it.

So I keep thinking about it.

1dunno1

My second choice, would actually be Hendrix, because he was SO DAMN GOOD he would definitely have played with everybody in the 70s and 80s (and 90s) had he lived, and I am 1000% sure he would have left his mark on metal, punk, 70s soul, country, prolly would have made a great record with Bob Marley.... oh yeah, can't you see it?

Can't you smell it?
 Quoting: Wharf Rat


It would have to be Jerry . There was nothing that could compare ever!
And I’ve seen tons of bands from metal to shitty Cyprus hill.
Pink Floyd was even a let down compared to what jgb and dead and reconstruction and the rest of it put out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53785155


jerry based his whole repetoire on this one song by the elevators (stacy sutherland was the guitarist) the elevators stole the show at the avalon quick silver grace slick etc. opened for the elevators janis got her scream from the elevators lead singer roky erikson

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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your gonna miss me [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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another master piece from the 13th floor elevators


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Layne Staley of Alice In Chains, Cliff Burton of Metallica and Chuck Schuldiner of Deathrockon
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considering what metallica has become, cliff probably would have killed himself by now... or at least all of the other members
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Terry Kath
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I gotta go with Buddy Holly. Most people today are not familiar with his body of work which was impressive at 21 years old, when he died.

He was the inspiration for just about all of the early 60s bands, particularly the "British Invasion" bands like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, because he was super popular there. Many artists in the US as well picked up on his singing.

He was the first rock and roll artist to use orchestral instruments in his music, he dubbed over his own songs to layer them with depth, and he was experimental with sounds and beats.

Listen to the following beat on "Peggy Sue". This became the surfer beat in the mid 60s.



Now listen to his copycat Tommy Roe (whom I do like), complete with the same beat and even the skip in the voice.



The classic song "American Pie" was about Buddy's death, the day the music died. Well, it didn't die, but it got a hell of a push from Buddy.



Tribute long after:

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Terry Kath
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and some of the best guitarist in the world list that solo from tanglewood as the best solo of all time.
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Terry Kath
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and some of the best guitarist in the world list that solo from tanglewood as the best solo of all time.
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And I would add,one of the best concerts of all time!
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Karen Carpenter.

Only because she was so talented and a great cross-over artist.

And she was a nice person.
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Okay, cool. Thanks for that, I'll check into her!
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I agree, Karen Carpenter. Even though as a prog rock fan, I think KC had the best female voice I ever heard.

Check out the YT on The Carpenters doing a cover of "Ticket to Ride" by The Beatles. This was recorded at Lake Tahoe the year before their first album was released. I think she as only 18 at the time.
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Check this out:
Karen Carpenter/Ella Fitzgerald - "This Masquerade" -Written by Leon Russell


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She thought of herself as a drummer...go to YouTube and watch her drum. She’s amazing. I read she sang a lot of her songs in one take.
God is good.
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Terry Kath
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and some of the best guitarist in the world list that solo from tanglewood as the best solo of all time.
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And I would add,one of the best concerts of all time!
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I was suckered into going to see Chicago by a girlfriend but when I gave them a chance it was fucking great! I became a fan that day.
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That's an interesting perspective on Old Hank, OP. I like it.

For me, I'd have to say Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy. He was so underrated and Thin Lizzy had a lot of awesome songs other than the two hits you hear on the radio.
 Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq.


Here's a mashup I made of Phil with Tom Petty....


Not perfect, but worth a chuckle


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That's an interesting perspective on Old Hank, OP. I like it.

For me, I'd have to say Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy. He was so underrated and Thin Lizzy had a lot of awesome songs other than the two hits you hear on the radio.
 Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq.


Here's a mashup I made of Phil with Tom Petty....


Not perfect, but worth a chuckle



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Haha! I like Krusty at the beginning!

I wanted to post last night but I fell asleep about your perspective on Old Hank. I could actually really see that happening with Hank and Rock and Roll. I just saw Hank Jr. last July, he opened for Skynyrd, and he told a story about when he was really young, when his dad was still alive. More or less, Old Hank was always hanging out with and always having over some of the original Rock and Roll guys over to their house, guys like the Big Bopper and Jerry Lee Lewis, etc. and Hank Jr. was always around, always watching, fetching beer and drinks for his dad and his friends while they sat around and played music and had a good time. Well one day apparently Miss Audrey caught Hank Jr. dancing and carrying on and singing, so she grabbed him by the arm and drug him in to the living room to Old Hank and his friends and proceeded to ask them "where he learned this behavior" and scold them for showing Hank Jr. how to act like them.

We wouldn't have bands like Skynyrd, Molly Hatchet, The Outlaws, etc. without him. I couldn't imagine what he would have done WITH them.
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I don't remember him saying The Big Bopper and Jerry Lee Lewis exactly lol (I was pretty drunk) I just member him saying "...Early Rock and Roll guys" and playing "Chantilly Lace" on the piano lol.
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Buddy Holly
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I came here to say Buddy Holly, but you got here first.

Buddy Holly.
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