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Hitler: "No, no, I think I'll let it grow out... covers up the poop stains nicely"
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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.

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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.

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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.


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Dude what a wall of half-truths and outright propaganda you are spewing back at me here. This is exactly what people mean by "History is written by the winners".

"BuT HiTLEr InVAded PoLAnD!" Like yeah, OK, no kidding. And you blame Hitler for this? Or let me even rephrase that - You blame Hitler for this exclusively? Come on man. Don't be dumb.

As I stated before, I'm a libertarian. I believe in freedom. I believe in the sacrifices and accepting the potential pitfalls that come with libertarianism. Free speech and the bill of rights are central to the things I hold dear, politically. But what you are writing is just a bunch of angry, emotional, 2nd grade propaganda that every child is taught in public schools without being exposed to the other side of the story. Communism spreading throughout the world. Fucking Stalin was in power during Hitlers time, OK?

It is, in fact, entirely possible that had Adolf Hitler NOT fought World War 2 the entire world would have fallen to the same authoritarian communism that befall the Soviet Union and Mao's China. That is a fucking stunning and indisputable historical fact, and nobody nobody ever gives Hitler the due credit for that.

He fought authoritarianism with authoritarianism. There does come a point where that is necessary. Even as a libertarian, I understand that. I mean the fact is that if you are given the choice between living under Soviet Authoritarianism or Nazi Germany authoritarianism, you'd choose Nazi Germany authoritarianism 100% of the time, every day of the week, unless you're insane or jewish. There is no question it was the lesser of two evils in the war. And that was the whole point. Hitler decided "enough was enough" and it was time to respond to the authoritarianism of communism with a sort of right-wing authoritarianism of his own. That's why it is historically labelled a "reactionary" ideology. The question of morality always comes down to whether or not the "reactionary" nature is justified or not. You can feel however you want about the situation in Germany when Hitler came to power, but you also weren't there so it's really hard to look back and make those moral absolute distinctions in the way that people do about Adolf Hitler.

Also LMAO @ your wholly unironic supposition that "there was only one communist in Germany when Hitler took power" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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And like, I have zero in terms of wanting to be apologetic about anything I say. If you're #Triggered and you wanna freak out just cuz someone is saying "obviously Nazi Germany was not the pure sociopathic evil it is presented as by the media" then that's on you. You're a moron.

I'm not a Nazi at all. Political-wise, I've only ever advocated for more freedom and more libertarianism, EVEN in the US today with all of its problems I still believe that extreme radical freedom is the answer and not any kind of reactionary authoritarianism in almost all instances (except maybe on the border with building the wall, but that's a little different too since you're not even really imposing the authoritarianism on your own people but rather invaders and walls dont cause any physical harm to anyone).

But at the same time it's kind of fucking retarded the way people look back at a guy and label him "so evil" without even having the faintest clue of the dark forces he was genuinely trying to fight back against and resist (and by all accounts he was a genuine ideologue, not just some guy trying to get his name into the history books).

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The video is not defending Hitler
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Yeah well IDK, mods can remove the post if they want to. You can't even say "Hmmmmm, 6 million sounds like a big number, can you show me the evidence of it being that many people?" in many parts of the world (And we are talking parts of the western world too) without going to prison. I mean what the hell does that tell you? The entirety of rational conversation about WW2 has been totally shut down, and yet still you're looked down on when you point out there is obvious wartime propaganda at work here?

I mean it's insane. I'm not a Nazi. Sorry. I'm just a guy talking about history. Why the fuck can't you even TALK about world war 2 without simply reiterating the tired old script of "ADOLF HITLER WAS EVIL AND THE SOVIET UNION WAS GOOD!"

REALLY? THE SOVIET UNION WAS GOOD? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPECTED TO SAY HERE?

Sorry. No. Soviet Union was not good. Of the two belligerents Hitler was the better, and objectively the far less authoritarian, sorry. That doesn't exonerate nazism or say that we should all be skinheads today in 2019. That's just an objective and true assessment of the historical facts. And you know it's true because when you say it all people can do is act belligerent and offended and try to censor you.

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He's a lying jue.
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No man has been more maligned in history than Adolph Hitler, the Greatest Patriot of the 20th century. They fear him most because he was right and exposed them.
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Also LMAO @ your wholly unironic supposition that "there was only one communist in Germany when Hitler took power" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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And one more thing about all of this, for anyone who wants to know what Hitler was dealing with in Germany, and what the world was dealing with (and still is dealing with).

Read Marcuse, Horkheimer and Adorno. These guys were Jews that emigrated to the US before the war. They got here and they were SO offended and upset that Americans were happy and had a positive economic situation that they started hatching some of the most outright insidious, manipulative and sociopathic plots to bring the US to its knees and draw it into communism that you can possibly conceive of.

Here is a passage from Marcuse "An Essay on Liberation" in 1969:

This society is obscene in producing and indecently exposing a stifling abundance of wares while depriving its victims abroad of the necessities of life; obscene in stuffing itself and its garbage cans while poisoning and burning the scarce foodstuffs in the fields of its aggression; obscene in the words and smiles of its politicians and entertainers; in its prayers, in its ignorance, and in the wisdom of its kept intellectuals.

Think long and hard about that. That is the sort of sociopathic evil that communism is. He wraps that rhetoric up in all sorts of moralistic, high handed pretentiousness, but all he is really doing is outright calling it "obscene" that you have food.

Let me just say it one more time for the stupid:
He thinks it is "obscene" that you have food and expressly wants you to have less access to food, and he thinks this is what is "moral". He believes that "morality" is restricting your access to food and ensuring that you have less of it.

That is the sociopathic evil of communism that we are dealing with here. It's no joke. It's real. This was the mentality that existed in the Soviet Union too and it is still the mentality among many communists and leftists.

The plans that he and the others who came with him laid out involve using political correctness, drugs, music, pop culture, homosexuality, feminism, wealth inequality and economic turmoil and all of the other awful shit we have to deal with in order to destroy western society and turn it into "such a miserable place" that it will willfully accept communism.

These plans involved getting yourself active in the community. Weaseling your way into positions of power and influence (like academia, being a teacher, or assuming elected office) and then subtly pushing your sociopathic anti-food plan in any way small you can.

To put it simply in one word, subversiveness.

So basically you have this situation where these people who only want to absolutely destroy you come along and smile to you, and weasel their way into public offices, and then once they get there just do everything they can to try to fuck your shit right up and literally take your fucking food from you and your family and your god damn children. And that is what Hitler was dealing with in WW2 and that is why he ended up being so authoritarian and trying to weed these people out of his society. I am not trying to tell you that he was right, I am only trying to share the mostly-unspoken-of information that motivated him to do what he did because he wasn't just someone who sociopathically "wanted to murder Jews and other people cuz he enjoyed it and had some sick bloodlust" or something dumb and comic-book-villain-tier like that. The dude was actually very close to a number of jews in his personal life, and went out of his way to aid them when he could, such as for example his family's doctor.

The works of these people have been extraordinarily influential. You can read the shit they wrote yourself. None of this is a "conspiracy theory" as it is often labelled. Their words exist in black and white in the publications that bear their names. Their works eventually went on to inspire the entire post structuralist movement in academia, which itself later came to define academia, and in turn has had tremendous influence on the supposed "education" (or more realistically put "miseducation" of our young people).

These guys were all communists, and they were all living in Germany when Hitler came to power, and they were all pushing their agenda back then too. So it's kind of insane to sit there and say something like "there was only one communist in Germany! Hitler was totally making all of that up!"

No. You can disagree with Hitler. I am not telling everyone to believe that Hitler made the right decisions. I am simply trying to show that there is another side to this entire story which we never hear about because of the fucking wartime propaganda, and of that side of the story crap like this and all of these Frankfurt School writers is just a small portion.

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Hitler was right.

There so you don't have to commit to any single position and still weasel your way out of taking a position for ethical reasons. Morality isn't in the Bible, and it doesn't belong in the modern era. Virtue and ethics are the core of logos, which is what Jesus was teaching.
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Basically anybody that can't say Hitler was right, is a little baby. I have heard teenage girls say Hitler was right in public.

Go cry in your pillow, because reality doesn't care if you can handle the truth. Hitler was right, and you're a little baby.
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Most maligned man???? LOL!!!!

You mean the man who destroyed Germany, was responsible for the deaths of 30-60 million people and destroyed countless others???? That Adolph Hitler???????????
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Most maligned man???? LOL!!!!

You mean the man who destroyed Germany, was responsible for the deaths of 30-60 million people and destroyed countless others???? That Adolph Hitler???????????
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What, There was only 6 million that died from Hitler.....I've never heard of the 30-60 million figure from historians.
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I really thibk what happened in WW2 was Hitler attemptibg to destroy the deep state banking cabal. I think I nailed it.
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Most maligned man???? LOL!!!!

You mean the man who destroyed Germany, was responsible for the deaths of 30-60 million people and destroyed countless others???? That Adolph Hitler???????????
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Yes, that was your fault for getting in his way. He only tried to help his people and nation after what you inflicted on them in the treaty of Versailles. Greatest hypocrites.
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And he was spot on on who controls things and who the puppets are. They just found another host in you.
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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.


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Yeap!
Where do you get such wonderful fairy tales?
History is a lie fabricated to hide our true history and further a ruthless agenda.I think we have sword for that it starts with P and sound like anaconda.
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The Brits only went to war with him because he was a threat to their power and control. As did America.
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The Brits only went to war with him because he was a threat to their power and control. As did America.
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No man has been more maligned in history than Adolph Hitler, the Greatest Patriot of the 20th century. They fear him most because he was right and exposed them.
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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.


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Dude what a wall of half-truths and outright propaganda you are spewing back at me here. This is exactly what people mean by "History is written by the winners".
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So that's all you've got? History is written by the winners? Let me guess, you don't know anything about history?

Lame.



"BuT HiTLEr InVAded PoLAnD!" Like yeah, OK, no kidding. And you blame Hitler for this? Or let me even rephrase that - You blame Hitler for this exclusively? Come on man. Don't be dumb.
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Well... YES. In September 1938 Hitler signed the Munich Agreement with Britain and France and Hitler assured them he had no more territorial ambitions in Europe. But then in the Spring of 1939 Germany invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia and in September 1939 Germany invaded Poland.

This told the world that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit. It is also why the blame falls squarely on Adolf Hitler.


As I stated before, I'm a libertarian. I believe in freedom. I believe in the sacrifices and accepting the potential pitfalls that come with libertarianism. Free speech and the bill of rights are central to the things I hold dear, politically. But what you are writing is just a bunch of angry, emotional, 2nd grade propaganda that every child is taught in public schools without being exposed to the other side of the story. Communism spreading throughout the world. Fucking Stalin was in power during Hitlers time, OK?
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Let me guess.... you don't know anything about history and often use that "history is written by the victors" rhetoric, yet you still want to talk about these events as if you have a clue.

So if you are a libertarian why is it you don't speak out against the police state of Nazi Germany? They were as oppressive a regime as you will ever see.

Stalin was in power before the Nazis seized power in Germany. And Stalin was in power after the little shit stain with the funny mustache was gone. Stalin was an evil bastard... but he wasn't an idiot like Hitler.

It is, in fact, entirely possible that had Adolf Hitler NOT fought World War 2 the entire world would have fallen to the same authoritarian communism that befall the Soviet Union and Mao's China. That is a fucking stunning and indisputable historical fact, and nobody nobody ever gives Hitler the due credit for that.
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Actually following the Russian Revolution the whole world feared the spread of communism. But Stalin wasn't big on invading his neighbors and starting large wars. Stalin knew the whole world would line up against him.

And really many thought a strong Germany would be a buffer between communism and western democracies. If Germany had an intelligent leader Germany could have had the support of the west. But Germany was stuck with that dummkopf Adolf Hitler who invaded all his democratic neighbors and instead of a fight against communism the rest of the world had to fight Hitler to liberate Europe.

And again just before Germany invaded Poland Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact ensuring peace with the communist Soviet Union so he could invade the democracies of Western Europe. WWII wasn't Hitler against communism because it started with an alliance between Nazi Germany and communist Soviet Union.

He fought authoritarianism with authoritarianism. There does come a point where that is necessary. Even as a libertarian, I understand that. I mean the fact is that if you are given the choice between living under Soviet Authoritarianism or Nazi Germany authoritarianism, you'd choose Nazi Germany authoritarianism 100% of the time, every day of the week, unless you're insane or jewish. There is no question it was the lesser of two evils in the war.
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Once again you show your complete ignorance of history. Germany became an authoritarian police state in 1933 which had nothing to do with WWII. Germany became a police state because only 33% of the German people voted for the Nazis and they knew they wouldn't survive another free election... so the Nazis ensured there were no more free elections.


And that was the whole point. Hitler decided "enough was enough" and it was time to respond to the authoritarianism of communism with a sort of right-wing authoritarianism of his own. That's why it is historically labelled a "reactionary" ideology. The question of morality always comes down to whether or not the "reactionary" nature is justified or not. You can feel however you want about the situation in Germany when Hitler came to power, but you also weren't there so it's really hard to look back and make those moral absolute distinctions in the way that people do about Adolf Hitler.


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You should really learn a little about history before embarrassing yourself like this. The freedom crushing police state of Nazi Germany was created at a time when Germany didn't even share a border with a communist nation. And Germany didn't share a border with a communist nation until Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1939 when Germany and the Soviet Union split Poland between themselves. And Germany was still working with Stalin and buying oil and raw materials from the Soviet Union when Germany invaded Western Europe country by country. Kinda hard to enlist the west in your struggle against communism when you are in an alliance with the communist Soviet Union and invading noncommunist European nations.

I realize that many neoNazi websites promote this Nazis fighting the good fight against communism while the rest of the world stupidly fought Germany... but only idiots with no knowledge of history believe that shit. Knowledge is the antidote to this foolishness. Learn so you aren't fooled by neoNazis and Holocaust deniers.
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Most maligned man???? LOL!!!!

You mean the man who destroyed Germany, was responsible for the deaths of 30-60 million people and destroyed countless others???? That Adolph Hitler???????????
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What, There was only 6 million that died from Hitler.....I've never heard of the 30-60 million figure from historians.
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The Holocaust was the killing of 6 million Jews... but that number jumps to 12-15 million when we include 2 million mostly Catholic Polish civilians, 3.5 million Soviet POWs, Gypsies, Serbs, etc.

But the war Hitler started resulted in the deaths of 60-75 million people which was about 3 % of the global population and destroyed Europe.
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Any comments on what he said in the video?

He said that he farted a lot
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fuckkkk I sound a lot like him lol
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Honestly IDK why everyone is so harsh on this guy. It's not like he was Stalin or Mao. And I am a major libertarian too. Nazism is not the kind of ideology I want to see enacted upon the world, but people forget that in Hitler's time he was acting in the context of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, and all of the atrocities that were happening and threatening to spread across the globe. When you really go back and look at the context of the time it is hard to really paint him as this "objectively evil demon", or at the very least not to recognize that Nazi Germany was indisputably, bare minimum, "the lesser of two evils" in terms of their war with the Soviet Union. I mean you would have to be legit straight up insane to try to dispute that.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.


 Quoting: Educated Redneck


Dude what a wall of half-truths and outright propaganda you are spewing back at me here. This is exactly what people mean by "History is written by the winners".
 Quoting: 88898625221


So that's all you've got? History is written by the winners? Let me guess, you don't know anything about history?

Lame.



"BuT HiTLEr InVAded PoLAnD!" Like yeah, OK, no kidding. And you blame Hitler for this? Or let me even rephrase that - You blame Hitler for this exclusively? Come on man. Don't be dumb.
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Well... YES. In September 1938 Hitler signed the Munich Agreement with Britain and France and Hitler assured them he had no more territorial ambitions in Europe. But then in the Spring of 1939 Germany invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia and in September 1939 Germany invaded Poland.

This told the world that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit. It is also why the blame falls squarely on Adolf Hitler.


As I stated before, I'm a libertarian. I believe in freedom. I believe in the sacrifices and accepting the potential pitfalls that come with libertarianism. Free speech and the bill of rights are central to the things I hold dear, politically. But what you are writing is just a bunch of angry, emotional, 2nd grade propaganda that every child is taught in public schools without being exposed to the other side of the story. Communism spreading throughout the world. Fucking Stalin was in power during Hitlers time, OK?
 Quoting: 88898625221


Let me guess.... you don't know anything about history and often use that "history is written by the victors" rhetoric, yet you still want to talk about these events as if you have a clue.

So if you are a libertarian why is it you don't speak out against the police state of Nazi Germany? They were as oppressive a regime as you will ever see.

Stalin was in power before the Nazis seized power in Germany. And Stalin was in power after the little shit stain with the funny mustache was gone. Stalin was an evil bastard... but he wasn't an idiot like Hitler.

It is, in fact, entirely possible that had Adolf Hitler NOT fought World War 2 the entire world would have fallen to the same authoritarian communism that befall the Soviet Union and Mao's China. That is a fucking stunning and indisputable historical fact, and nobody nobody ever gives Hitler the due credit for that.
 Quoting: 88898625221


Actually following the Russian Revolution the whole world feared the spread of communism. But Stalin wasn't big on invading his neighbors and starting large wars. Stalin knew the whole world would line up against him.

And really many thought a strong Germany would be a buffer between communism and western democracies. If Germany had an intelligent leader Germany could have had the support of the west. But Germany was stuck with that dummkopf Adolf Hitler who invaded all his democratic neighbors and instead of a fight against communism the rest of the world had to fight Hitler to liberate Europe.

And again just before Germany invaded Poland Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact ensuring peace with the communist Soviet Union so he could invade the democracies of Western Europe. WWII wasn't Hitler against communism because it started with an alliance between Nazi Germany and communist Soviet Union.

He fought authoritarianism with authoritarianism. There does come a point where that is necessary. Even as a libertarian, I understand that. I mean the fact is that if you are given the choice between living under Soviet Authoritarianism or Nazi Germany authoritarianism, you'd choose Nazi Germany authoritarianism 100% of the time, every day of the week, unless you're insane or jewish. There is no question it was the lesser of two evils in the war.
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Once again you show your complete ignorance of history. Germany became an authoritarian police state in 1933 which had nothing to do with WWII. Germany became a police state because only 33% of the German people voted for the Nazis and they knew they wouldn't survive another free election... so the Nazis ensured there were no more free elections.


And that was the whole point. Hitler decided "enough was enough" and it was time to respond to the authoritarianism of communism with a sort of right-wing authoritarianism of his own. That's why it is historically labelled a "reactionary" ideology. The question of morality always comes down to whether or not the "reactionary" nature is justified or not. You can feel however you want about the situation in Germany when Hitler came to power, but you also weren't there so it's really hard to look back and make those moral absolute distinctions in the way that people do about Adolf Hitler.


 Quoting: 88898625221



You should really learn a little about history before embarrassing yourself like this. The freedom crushing police state of Nazi Germany was created at a time when Germany didn't even share a border with a communist nation. And Germany didn't share a border with a communist nation until Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1939 when Germany and the Soviet Union split Poland between themselves. And Germany was still working with Stalin and buying oil and raw materials from the Soviet Union when Germany invaded Western Europe country by country. Kinda hard to enlist the west in your struggle against communism when you are in an alliance with the communist Soviet Union and invading noncommunist European nations.

I realize that many neoNazi websites promote this Nazis fighting the good fight against communism while the rest of the world stupidly fought Germany... but only idiots with no knowledge of history believe that shit. Knowledge is the antidote to this foolishness. Learn so you aren't fooled by neoNazis and Holocaust deniers.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


I say you're spreading one sided propaganda and rhetoric because you are. You're providing a great example of the "history is written by the winners" reality here, which you can try to discount all you want but it's still true.

Your entire argument boils down to "Hitler violated a treaty, therefore bad" and it just doesn't hold up even if I just concede that's true for argument sake only.

You're also just claiming outright insane things, like you literally claimed there was "only one communist in Germany" in your first post, lol, and now you're trying to claim that the spread of communism wasn't really a real threat when Hitler came to power? LMAO like that is just factually ahistorical and even the most left-wing history books wouldn't back you up on that one.

And I mean yeah, I have to discount the things you are saying with such broad strokes because so much of it is factually inaccurate, and you put so much gish-gallop in there that I obviously can't write a response to it all. That's just an argument tactic though.

Not only that, the stuff you're saying in terms of "Hitler violated a treaty tho!" really doesn't have anything to do with the morality question and which side is the "right" side. I mean the fact that you're resorting to "hitler violated a treaty tho!" just shows that you really aren't interested in even discussing the motivations or ideologies that were at war with one another in WW2. Instead you're just interested in blaming Hitler, which most of the time means you're just someone with communist sympathies, in practice.

I realize that many neoNazi websites promote this Nazis fighting the good fight against communism while the rest of the world stupidly fought Germany... but only idiots with no knowledge of history believe that shit. Knowledge is the antidote to this foolishness. Learn so you aren't fooled by neoNazis and Holocaust deniers.

Like what am I even supposed to say to stuff like this? Like really? Like that is literally the fundamental central motivation behind World War 2. And you just go "No" without any evidence or backing it up.

It's like you come into this thread and you post this long gish-gallop response, and you make it sound so authoritative, but you aren't even actually saying anything of consequence or value. Just "no that's not true" to things that are absolutely indisputable true. And then flat out stupid things like "there was only one communist in Germany" and "the spread of communism wasn't a real threat".

Like OK. You're just here writing provably huge-ass walls of lies and outright wartime propaganda.
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That isn't true at all. Nazi Germany invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands and France while they had a treaty with the Soviet Union. It was only after invading Central and Western Europe and being unable to cross the English Channel that Germany turned back East and invaded the Soviet Union. Much of the world thought that the Nazis were the lesser of 2 evils... at least until Hitler invaded all of his European neighbors. Just look at history and notice that the US and Britain were both strong against the Soviet Union before and after WWII. The Soviets and the West were only allies because Adolf Hitler was a fool who didn't respect any other nation.

And why is everyone so harsh on this guy? Well for starters he setup the police state of Nazi Germany, the type of police state that we should all fear. He did that by blaming the communists too... but it was just a lone Dutch communist that started the Reichstag fire in Hitler's first month as Chancellor. All citizens of Germany lost all civil liberties that had been granted by the German constitution and they never got them back until after Hitler was dead. He had to do this because his Nazi party only received 33% of the November 1932 general election... 2 million less votes that they received 6 months earlier. The Nazis wouldn't have survived another election so Hitler banned all the other political parties and there were no more free elections held in Germany.

And the German Gestapo and SA were ruthless to the German people murdering many and imprisoning many more. Massive concentration camps were setup and ended up holding millions who were suspecting of not supporting the Nazis. There were no trials, they didn't even file charges. They just picked up people and locked them away.

And then there is Hitler's invading all his European neighbors starting a war that killed 70-85 million people or about 3% of the total population of planet Earth. Europe was in ruins for many years because of that little shit stain.

As a head of state Hitler broke every treaty he ever agreed to which is what eventually started WWII. It became known that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit.

As far as the video... it is likely that the only person Adolf Hitler personally killed was his niece who was mentioned. She shot herself in the chest with her uncle Adolf's pistol in her uncle Adolf's apartment. And Hitler's flatulence due to his diet was well known.


 Quoting: Educated Redneck


Dude what a wall of half-truths and outright propaganda you are spewing back at me here. This is exactly what people mean by "History is written by the winners".
 Quoting: 88898625221


So that's all you've got? History is written by the winners? Let me guess, you don't know anything about history?

Lame.



"BuT HiTLEr InVAded PoLAnD!" Like yeah, OK, no kidding. And you blame Hitler for this? Or let me even rephrase that - You blame Hitler for this exclusively? Come on man. Don't be dumb.
 Quoting: 88898625221


Well... YES. In September 1938 Hitler signed the Munich Agreement with Britain and France and Hitler assured them he had no more territorial ambitions in Europe. But then in the Spring of 1939 Germany invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia and in September 1939 Germany invaded Poland.

This told the world that if Adolf Hitler gave you his word it didn't mean shit. It is also why the blame falls squarely on Adolf Hitler.


As I stated before, I'm a libertarian. I believe in freedom. I believe in the sacrifices and accepting the potential pitfalls that come with libertarianism. Free speech and the bill of rights are central to the things I hold dear, politically. But what you are writing is just a bunch of angry, emotional, 2nd grade propaganda that every child is taught in public schools without being exposed to the other side of the story. Communism spreading throughout the world. Fucking Stalin was in power during Hitlers time, OK?
 Quoting: 88898625221


Let me guess.... you don't know anything about history and often use that "history is written by the victors" rhetoric, yet you still want to talk about these events as if you have a clue.

So if you are a libertarian why is it you don't speak out against the police state of Nazi Germany? They were as oppressive a regime as you will ever see.

Stalin was in power before the Nazis seized power in Germany. And Stalin was in power after the little shit stain with the funny mustache was gone. Stalin was an evil bastard... but he wasn't an idiot like Hitler.

It is, in fact, entirely possible that had Adolf Hitler NOT fought World War 2 the entire world would have fallen to the same authoritarian communism that befall the Soviet Union and Mao's China. That is a fucking stunning and indisputable historical fact, and nobody nobody ever gives Hitler the due credit for that.
 Quoting: 88898625221


Actually following the Russian Revolution the whole world feared the spread of communism. But Stalin wasn't big on invading his neighbors and starting large wars. Stalin knew the whole world would line up against him.

And really many thought a strong Germany would be a buffer between communism and western democracies. If Germany had an intelligent leader Germany could have had the support of the west. But Germany was stuck with that dummkopf Adolf Hitler who invaded all his democratic neighbors and instead of a fight against communism the rest of the world had to fight Hitler to liberate Europe.

And again just before Germany invaded Poland Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact ensuring peace with the communist Soviet Union so he could invade the democracies of Western Europe. WWII wasn't Hitler against communism because it started with an alliance between Nazi Germany and communist Soviet Union.

He fought authoritarianism with authoritarianism. There does come a point where that is necessary. Even as a libertarian, I understand that. I mean the fact is that if you are given the choice between living under Soviet Authoritarianism or Nazi Germany authoritarianism, you'd choose Nazi Germany authoritarianism 100% of the time, every day of the week, unless you're insane or jewish. There is no question it was the lesser of two evils in the war.
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Once again you show your complete ignorance of history. Germany became an authoritarian police state in 1933 which had nothing to do with WWII. Germany became a police state because only 33% of the German people voted for the Nazis and they knew they wouldn't survive another free election... so the Nazis ensured there were no more free elections.


And that was the whole point. Hitler decided "enough was enough" and it was time to respond to the authoritarianism of communism with a sort of right-wing authoritarianism of his own. That's why it is historically labelled a "reactionary" ideology. The question of morality always comes down to whether or not the "reactionary" nature is justified or not. You can feel however you want about the situation in Germany when Hitler came to power, but you also weren't there so it's really hard to look back and make those moral absolute distinctions in the way that people do about Adolf Hitler.


 Quoting: 88898625221



You should really learn a little about history before embarrassing yourself like this. The freedom crushing police state of Nazi Germany was created at a time when Germany didn't even share a border with a communist nation. And Germany didn't share a border with a communist nation until Hitler signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1939 when Germany and the Soviet Union split Poland between themselves. And Germany was still working with Stalin and buying oil and raw materials from the Soviet Union when Germany invaded Western Europe country by country. Kinda hard to enlist the west in your struggle against communism when you are in an alliance with the communist Soviet Union and invading noncommunist European nations.

I realize that many neoNazi websites promote this Nazis fighting the good fight against communism while the rest of the world stupidly fought Germany... but only idiots with no knowledge of history believe that shit. Knowledge is the antidote to this foolishness. Learn so you aren't fooled by neoNazis and Holocaust deniers.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck


I say you're spreading one sided propaganda and rhetoric because you are. You're providing a great example of the "history is written by the winners" reality here, which you can try to discount all you want but it's still true.

Your entire argument boils down to "Hitler violated a treaty, therefore bad" and it just doesn't hold up even if I just concede that's true for argument sake only.

You're also just claiming outright insane things, like you literally claimed there was "only one communist in Germany" in your first post, lol, and now you're trying to claim that the spread of communism wasn't really a real threat when Hitler came to power? LMAO like that is just factually ahistorical and even the most left-wing history books wouldn't back you up on that one.

And I mean yeah, I have to discount the things you are saying with such broad strokes because so much of it is factually inaccurate, and you put so much gish-gallop in there that I obviously can't write a response to it all. That's just an argument tactic though.

Not only that, the stuff you're saying in terms of "Hitler violated a treaty tho!" really doesn't have anything to do with the morality question and which side is the "right" side. I mean the fact that you're resorting to "hitler violated a treaty tho!" just shows that you really aren't interested in even discussing the motivations or ideologies that were at war with one another in WW2. Instead you're just interested in blaming Hitler, which most of the time means you're just someone with communist sympathies, in practice.

I realize that many neoNazi websites promote this Nazis fighting the good fight against communism while the rest of the world stupidly fought Germany... but only idiots with no knowledge of history believe that shit. Knowledge is the antidote to this foolishness. Learn so you aren't fooled by neoNazis and Holocaust deniers.

Like what am I even supposed to say to stuff like this? Like really? Like that is literally the fundamental central motivation behind World War 2. And you just go "No" without any evidence or backing it up.

It's like you come into this thread and you post this long gish-gallop response, and you make it sound so authoritative, but you aren't even actually saying anything of consequence or value. Just "no that's not true" to things that are absolutely indisputable true. And then flat out stupid things like "there was only one communist in Germany" and "the spread of communism wasn't a real threat".

Like OK. You're just here writing provably huge-ass walls of lies and outright wartime propaganda.
 Quoting: 88898625221


Well, I just looked through your post history and now I see why you're doing what you're doing. You basically ONLY post on this website about the Holocaust and show up in every thread spreading the same debunked, factually untrue propaganda.

So I mean whatever your motivations are, whether you're a paid shill or just Jewish or a communist or whatever, it's obviously you're not arguing here from a place of unbiasedness or good faith.

I mean that much was pretty much straight obviously when you unironically tried to claim there was only one communist in all of Germany when Hitler was in power. That, among all of the other blatant untruths and propaganda, and this pointless "But Hitler violated a treaty once!" that you keep regurgitating, which isn't even true but doesn't even have anything to do with the discussion as far as I am concerned.
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Hitler did nothing wrong