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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64121930 United States 02/11/2019 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i suppose you could say that , but its the embodiment of the 1st amendment so by trying to stifle anothers opinions we are actually behaving in an unconstitutional manner It's because the art of conversation and discourse are dead. Now we just have a bunch of talking heads and parrots that repeat what they have heard. It's a tough one. No one wants to hear someone drone on about something they know is wrong, but they should have the right to. And we should also have the right to tell that person to shut the fuck up. It's only freedom of speech when people do their own thinking about what they are saying anyway. The internet and world wide connectedness changed the way that game is played. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont know about that it seems there are some whites that are the biggest totalitarians when it comes to censorship period . but people not understanding what the foundational principles of the nation are really about i think is the root of much of the problem . but in order to do that youd have to study the ideas the enlightenment philosophers espoused , and doing so might cause your peers to accuse of you of being in the 'illuminati' , so no wonder people just retreat their isolated echo chamber bubbles. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i suppose you could say that , but its the embodiment of the 1st amendment so by trying to stifle anothers opinions we are actually behaving in an unconstitutional manner It's because the art of conversation and discourse are dead. Now we just have a bunch of talking heads and parrots that repeat what they have heard. It's a tough one. No one wants to hear someone drone on about something they know is wrong, but they should have the right to. And we should also have the right to tell that person to shut the fuck up. It's only freedom of speech when people do their own thinking about what they are saying anyway. The internet and world wide connectedness changed the way that game is played. thats true to an extent i think . and the characteristics upon which a good discourse can be undertaken such as patience , sympathy , logical and rhetorical abilities , vocabulary , sense of humor , and above all a sense of decency are all being rapidly eroded . its getting so bad that violence may be the only way of resolving conflicts soon. the banning of and marginalizing inconvenient voices is not a good sign of where things are headed . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also it seems the internet is surely eroding the level and ability of expressive ability of the vast majority , putting aside what you think of trump as a president or even person he definitely seems to be contributing to this slide in expression. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64121930 United States 02/11/2019 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i suppose you could say that , but its the embodiment of the 1st amendment so by trying to stifle anothers opinions we are actually behaving in an unconstitutional manner It's because the art of conversation and discourse are dead. Now we just have a bunch of talking heads and parrots that repeat what they have heard. It's a tough one. No one wants to hear someone drone on about something they know is wrong, but they should have the right to. And we should also have the right to tell that person to shut the fuck up. It's only freedom of speech when people do their own thinking about what they are saying anyway. The internet and world wide connectedness changed the way that game is played. thats true to an extent i think . and the characteristics upon which a good discourse can be undertaken such as patience , sympathy , logical and rhetorical abilities , vocabulary , sense of humor , and above all a sense of decency are all being rapidly eroded . its getting so bad that violence may be the only way of resolving conflicts soon. the banning of and marginalizing inconvenient voices is not a good sign of where things are headed . Don't worry. I will defend to the death your right to say it. As long as there is still one of us left that will, there is still hope. ;) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72177819 i suppose you could say that , but its the embodiment of the 1st amendment so by trying to stifle anothers opinions we are actually behaving in an unconstitutional manner It's because the art of conversation and discourse are dead. Now we just have a bunch of talking heads and parrots that repeat what they have heard. It's a tough one. No one wants to hear someone drone on about something they know is wrong, but they should have the right to. And we should also have the right to tell that person to shut the fuck up. It's only freedom of speech when people do their own thinking about what they are saying anyway. The internet and world wide connectedness changed the way that game is played. thats true to an extent i think . and the characteristics upon which a good discourse can be undertaken such as patience , sympathy , logical and rhetorical abilities , vocabulary , sense of humor , and above all a sense of decency are all being rapidly eroded . its getting so bad that violence may be the only way of resolving conflicts soon. the banning of and marginalizing inconvenient voices is not a good sign of where things are headed . Don't worry. I will defend to the death your right to say it. As long as there is still one of us left that will, there is still hope. ;) i appreciate the sentiment but when the number of people is in the vast minority theres not a lot they can do on a mass level scale , all other things being equal . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77311748 United States 02/11/2019 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Evelyn Beatrice Hall Quoting: clear eyed pragmatist 72177819 its like we're living in a completely different country now eh I was thinking about this quote a couple days ago when Trinity announced they were dropped by another payment processor. Thanks for posting it. It's the "defend to the death" part that pussies have a problem with. Vets in my time knew what they were fighting for and why. We were all patriots. I was raised in a country I loved. I was raised to understand that the right to free speech is even more important than the right to bear arms, and both rights are sacred beyond measure. |
Spelurker User ID: 26617007 United States 02/11/2019 03:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Social media, the internet, and technology have given everyone a soap box. They have made people think their opinion matters to anyone else besides themselves. They have made the discussion level between a 12-year-old and a 34-year-old seem equal. And social media and the internet and technology have contributed to the dumbing down of people and a loss of social skills and perspective. So now people are melting snowflakes on a soapbox. They can't handle criticism. And being that they lack social skills, they have to attack anyone who disagrees (and I mean attack, not rational debate) and try to purge anyone who disagrees. I also think growing up with divorced, messed-up parents and few to no siblings has stunted at least a generation or so. People just don't know how to deal anymore. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Social media, the internet, and technology have given everyone a soap box. They have made people think their opinion matters to anyone else besides themselves. They have made the discussion level between a 12-year-old and a 34-year-old seem equal. And social media and the internet and technology have contributed to the dumbing down of people and a loss of social skills and perspective. Quoting: Spelurker So now people are melting snowflakes on a soapbox. They can't handle criticism. And being that they lack social skills, they have to attack anyone who disagrees (and I mean attack, not rational debate) and try to purge anyone who disagrees. I also think growing up with divorced, messed-up parents and few to no siblings has stunted at least a generation or so. People just don't know how to deal anymore. so whats the solution ....is there a way to remedy these problems without fundamentally reforming society ? perhaps internet discourse should be eliminated altogether until individuals learn to engage with one another in a more civil manner ? it seems that the nature of web interaction has always consisted of a large share of 'trolling' , and its culture , if you may call it that , in fact encourages it . so the notion of censorship online , especially when it is relatively harmless seem schizophrenic at best . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Evelyn Beatrice Hall Quoting: clear eyed pragmatist 72177819 its like we're living in a completely different country now eh I was thinking about this quote a couple days ago when Trinity announced they were dropped by another payment processor. Thanks for posting it. It's the "defend to the death" part that pussies have a problem with. Vets in my time knew what they were fighting for and why. We were all patriots. I was raised in a country I loved. I was raised to understand that the right to free speech is even more important than the right to bear arms, and both rights are sacred beyond measure. putting the "to death" portion aside , the minimum of defending a persons right to speech when it contradicts their own seems to be sorely lacking in these times a large degree. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13039040 United States 02/11/2019 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps internet discourse should be eliminated altogether until individuals learn to engage with one another in a more civil manner ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72177819 it seems that the nature of web interaction has always consisted of a large share of 'trolling' , and its culture , if you may call it that , in fact encourages it . so the notion of censorship online , especially when it is relatively harmless seem schizophrenic at best . What the fuck? Dude. This is what passes as reasoning for you? That's analogous to saying: "Life is hard. Perhaps we should just all kill ourselves?" |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps internet discourse should be eliminated altogether until individuals learn to engage with one another in a more civil manner ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72177819 it seems that the nature of web interaction has always consisted of a large share of 'trolling' , and its culture , if you may call it that , in fact encourages it . so the notion of censorship online , especially when it is relatively harmless seem schizophrenic at best . What the fuck? Dude. This is what passes as reasoning for you? That's analogous to saying: "Life is hard. Perhaps we should just all kill ourselves?" haha , i knew that would elicit an outraged response , but what im looking for is some ideas on how to remedy or at least improve the situation we currently find ourselves in so far as discussion goes on the internet as well as off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77064257 United States 02/11/2019 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also it seems the internet is surely eroding the level and ability of expressive ability of the vast majority , putting aside what you think of trump as a president or even person he definitely seems to be contributing to this slide in expression. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72177819 Yes, I got it, we want people to get off the internet and get back to work and make babies. But after you have just talked to old guy after old guy who lost their wives in childbirth or to post postpartum complications back when the goal was four kids All you see is those lines of female graves where they were buried with their newborns. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also it seems the internet is surely eroding the level and ability of expressive ability of the vast majority , putting aside what you think of trump as a president or even person he definitely seems to be contributing to this slide in expression. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72177819 Yes, I got it, we want people to get off the internet and get back to work and make babies. But after you have just talked to old guy after old guy who lost their wives in childbirth or to post postpartum complications back when the goal was four kids All you see is those lines of female graves where they were buried with their newborns. ah the good ol' days |
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EnD BLM User ID: 73805232 United States 02/11/2019 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i suppose you could say that , but its the embodiment of the 1st amendment so by trying to stifle anothers opinions we are actually behaving in an unconstitutional manner It's because the art of conversation and discourse are dead. Now we just have a bunch of talking heads and parrots that repeat what they have heard. It's a tough one. No one wants to hear someone drone on about something they know is wrong, but they should have the right to. And we should also have the right to tell that person to shut the fuck up. It's only freedom of speech when people do their own thinking about what they are saying anyway. The internet and world wide connectedness changed the way that game is played. Yin and yang is never ending because if it did so would everything..... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72177819 United States 02/11/2019 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Mussolini |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75307792 United States 02/11/2019 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Evelyn Beatrice Hall Quoting: clear eyed pragmatist 72177819 its like we're living in a completely different country now eh My opinion, American is not a country anymore. TPTB just haven't made the official announcement. So, as long as people stand up at football games when they sing the national anthem, shit will just keep rolling on. Here's another quote you don't hear anymore. "I'll be the judge of that!" |