Same-Sex Marriage Will Be Voted On At United Methodist Church Conference February.

Hilary Clinton is a Methodist, which should tell you all you need to know about the Methodist Church.

A totally apostate, watered down, false, McChurchan spiritual junk food restaurant for yuppies, infidels, hypocrites, and reprobates.

Do you get updates from the people at the Confessing Movement? They have pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that it's going either "One Church," the don't-ask-don't-tell route, or straight up recognizing gay marriage/clergy across the denomination, and they follow this very closely. That will be the end of the denomination as we know it as many lay members have been waiting these three years to decide whether to stay in the UMC. Once the Church makes a formal declaration that it is changing the Book of Discipline, these people will split, and it's about damn time. The UMC is too far gone.

I am learning more from this thread than anything or anyone in my Church or the internet. Thanks SO much for any info and discussion.

This topic is a BIG deal for many a family and many BIG decisions will be made over the next month.

Same-sex marriage and acceptance of LGBTQ clergy are issues that will be voted at a special sessions of the general conference of the United Methodist Church on February 23-26, 2019.

Prayer, We Need Prayer, in Jesus Name!


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Why do libtards want to engage in an REPRESSIVE, CONSERVATIVE institution such as marriage ???? I asked a lesbo i worked with this and she said, well I wanted to prove that she could trust me; I said why not just co-sign a car loan with her ?

Same-sex marriage and acceptance of LGBTQ clergy are issues that will be voted at a special sessions of the general conference of the United Methodist Church on February 23-26, 2019.

Prayer, We Need Prayer, in Jesus Name!


[link to wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu]

I don’t think they can hold it together much longer. They basically punted three years ago and their big problem is 80+% of their clergy is leftist while 60-70% of their membership is traditional. The bishops won’t be able to help themselves this time and anything less than formally affirming the traditional stance of the church will end in a schism. Traditional lay members won’t stand for a policy that leaves a traditional church on one side of town and one performing trans-weddings on the other.

I just hate that they didn’t bring this to a head three years ago because, in the interim, my family bailed and became Baptists.

This will rip apart both the Methodist & Presbyterian churches.

Who has time to go to church. Meditate in your home and Say your dam prayer and move on. Why do you rely on a human middleman? It's say cathedrals will be ignored by God. Those who reach out I'm privacy are the ones God hears.

A house divided cannot stand!!

Hilary Clinton is a Methodist, which should tell you all you need to know about the Methodist Church.

A totally apostate, watered down, false, McChurchan spiritual junk food restaurant for yuppies, infidels, hypocrites, and reprobates.

The fact it's even being discussed let alone voted on is cause to disown them and leave the "church".

Pagans!

My God does not any one read the holy book anymore, God don't change.. Voting.. Ha.. What a bunch of losers, nothing to, vote on.. Homo sex equals no part of God's kingdom.. Duhhhh...

Here's an example of what is going to happen at the local level: The UMC church I was raised in is pastored by a gay marriage-supporting preacher. The membership is 90% traditional. They all know his position, but they also know he's got too good a gig going to do a gay marriage and piss off the congregation. When the split happens, he is going to be forced to take an official stand and he's going to be replaced. He'll try to keep his church, but if he is somehow able to manage to keep the pastor parish committee in line, his entire congregation will leave and he will preside over a huge, empty church with a mountain of debt and no donating members.

Indeed not. That's why we will end up with two houses, one of which will prosper and the other which will fail.

Here's an example of what is going to happen at the local level: The UMC church I was raised in is pastored by a gay marriage-supporting preacher. The membership is 90% traditional. They all know his position, but they also know he's got too good a gig going to do a gay marriage and piss off the congregation. When the split happens, he is going to be forced to take an official stand and he's going to be replaced. He'll try to keep his church, but if he is somehow able to manage to keep the pastor parish committee in line, his entire congregation will leave and he will preside over a huge, empty church with a mountain of debt and no donating members.

Interesting...
I truly wonder what folks at my local Church will do. More and more people are embracing the change ( The agenda) I fear.... It truly gives me a headache.

The fact that they even allow it to come up to vote tells me all I need to know about their interpretation of scripture.

I know what I am going to need to do and man this is hard as my life is 100% based around my Church. I love my Church.

I feel we are truly in end times for this even to be a topic. God help us...

Marriage is really for the financial good of women and their children as well character/ spiritual development of children. It was never even intended for childless couples even.

It evolved into business and political partnerships later and then an upper class contract later on. So of coarse, to keep up with "The Jones," marriage was open to older couples too. After all you never knew when a women could conceive given the short life span of women back then.

I would straight up refuse to marry two men or two women no matter what the ramifications are. Don't fear what can kill you but fear what can destroy your soul. There is no middle ground as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, it’s happening sweetheart. Under the church’s Book of Discipline it would never happen because apparently the rest of the world is against homosexuality in general. Not sure why they feel that way. Oh wait, this is a religion based on the Bible!

What is being presented as a “path forward” is basically a don’t ask don’t tell where this new rule will only be applied to UMC in the United States. So basically this is splitting the church.

A committee of 32 lay members, clergy and church leaders came up with originally 2 plans. The don’t ask don’t tell approach where each church can decide whether it wants gays married or not. However, this plan doesn’t allow for a vote by the congregation because votes are divisive. 18 members of the committee VOTED in favor of this. The second option was make every church in the US flaming faccot marrying dens. Then a couple of days before the committee wrapped up its work, one member pushed forward a third option of leaving the issue alone and keeping the rules we already have in order. No gays. That option got very little support but is on the ballot for this conference as well.

I’m not sure how most churches will survive once this goes into effect. I’m a top ten donor in our church and I will go back to being a Lutheran. Many others will leave too. They won’t get new members because there are already gays that are members and are pushing this.

Church suicide.

I am learning more from this thread than anything or anyone in my Church or the internet. Thanks SO much for any info and discussion.

This topic is a BIG deal for many a family and many BIG decisions will be made over the next month.
Some folks change Churches every few months but for some, walking away from a Church is like loosing a family member...
I'm having a hard time with this...

The wheat and the weeds will be separated.

Who has time to go to church. Meditate in your home and Say your dam prayer and move on. Why do you rely on a human middleman? It's say cathedrals will be ignored by God. Those who reach out I'm privacy are the ones God hears.