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Why You Should Never Use Stripe To Process Your Recurring Subscriptions. (Stripe Responds To GLP)

 
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What?

Heterosexual?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Patriotic?
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Christian?
 Quoting: A Chosen


Unapologetic whites? drama
 Quoting: Merit


That's seems to be a big one now. Completely unapologetic and don't loose any sleep over it.
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Hey I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong, just that it is an odd business model which could raise concerns with the processing companies.

Lots of gray area is all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


Well I can't imagine why a site as controversial as this would exist in such a grey area...

Can you?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think the issue with the processing companies with your site is about the business model more than the content IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I hear ya. I hope whatever processing company you end up with works out.

The less government regulation the better.

But it is a symbiotic relationship GLP and its processing company. So yes, content could be of concern.
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Stripe or not, this monstruosity needs to go down, the sooner the better.
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Kevyn?
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Uh... What? I have business that gets a lot of income from central and south America. That business isn't South American because it accepts pesos. It's still an American company.
 Quoting: Merit


AC 6926 clearly never made a purchase outside the US.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
 Quoting: Merit


No. It's the banks. When US banks hold and process US Dollars without US jurisdiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

One of my businesses I am a partner in sells cell phone minutes. In South America they still predominantly do that for cell phone usage. We get paid in pesos from those countries customers, even though it's an American company.

Our bank just converts them into dollars, and that's that. You dont need special permission to accept foreign coin.

Conversely, if we pay out to someone down there and they want pesos we just have the bank pay them in pesos. We don't ask permission to do so or need any kind of special designation from that country to do so.


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So the laws of the United States do not apply. Is there free speech in Jersey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


They don't have any laws on the matter. They are not in the business of telling their companies what they can and can't do.

It boils down to personal jurisdiction (where are you) and corporate jurisdiction (where is the company based).

So if you are in the United States your personal jurisdiction grants you the right to freedom of speech.

The website itself (based in Jersey) isn't actually making any comments at all.

The website itself if simply providing a communications platform, like a telephone company.

Can you hold the telephone company liable for the private conversations of its customers?

Are you starting too understand?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


The dollars. It all sounds reasonable until the site collects US dollars.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


You can accept USD for a transaction anywhere in the world. Using a particular currency doesn't subject one to the laws of the country under which that currency is issued.

That argument makes no sense.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



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Depends on who the transaction is coming from
where it's going
and who is the transfer agent.
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Hey I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong, just that it is an odd business model which could raise concerns with the processing companies.

Lots of gray area is all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


Well I can't imagine why a site as controversial as this would exist in such a grey area...

Can you?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think the issue with the processing companies with your site is about the business model more than the content IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Jesus is that true??
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Uh... What? I have business that gets a lot of income from central and south America. That business isn't South American because it accepts pesos. It's still an American company.
 Quoting: Merit


AC 6926 clearly never made a purchase outside the US.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
 Quoting: Merit


Or never traveled overseas. AC would know if he stuck his US bank ATM card in a bank in Germany, it will give you marks but you will pay a conversion fee unless it's waived. I would just go to the nearest Airbase when I lived there and hit up the bank on base to make the currency exchange. I wasn't charged the conversion fee when I did it this way.
 Quoting: A Chosen



It will give you Euros! Forgive me I am a Brexit sort of person.

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They don't have any laws on the matter. They are not in the business of telling their companies what they can and can't do.

It boils down to personal jurisdiction (where are you) and corporate jurisdiction (where is the company based).

So if you are in the United States your personal jurisdiction grants you the right to freedom of speech.

The website itself (based in Jersey) isn't actually making any comments at all.

The website itself if simply providing a communications platform, like a telephone company.

Can you hold the telephone company liable for the private conversations of its customers?

Are you starting too understand?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


The dollars. It all sounds reasonable until the site collects US dollars.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


You can accept USD for a transaction anywhere in the world. Using a particular currency doesn't subject one to the laws of the country under which that currency is issued.

That argument makes no sense.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



[link to www.finra.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Depends on who the transaction is coming from
where it's going
and who is the transfer agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76677680


yea but we're not a financial institution

believe me guys I'm very well schooled on these issues and my lawyers much more so
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Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
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AC 6926 clearly never made a purchase outside the US.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
 Quoting: Merit


No. It's the banks. When US banks hold and process US Dollars without US jurisdiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

One of my businesses I am a partner in sells cell phone minutes. In South America they still predominantly do that for cell phone usage. We get paid in pesos from those countries customers, even though it's an American company.

Our bank just converts them into dollars, and that's that. You dont need special permission to accept foreign coin.

Conversely, if we pay out to someone down there and they want pesos we just have the bank pay them in pesos. We don't ask permission to do so or need any kind of special designation from that country to do so.
 Quoting: Merit



oh, man.

dude, you get run through KYC and AML when you open your bank account. So does whoever sends in money.

This isn't that hard to understand. Stripe has some
bank agent they're accountable to. Somebody got pissed
off and organized a callin campaign, it got Stripe's
attention, they glanced at the site and decided
they don't want any risk, they don't want their
bank license canceled for any reason because
they're a 1000 person company worth $20 billion.

do the numbers.
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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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Spelling his name Kevyn makes that a true statement.
 Quoting: Caraudiotekk


I was going to say the exact same thing. Spelling Kevyn with a Y, screams liberal snowflake.

I would love to see his birth certificate because I can almost guarantee there is no Y in his name.
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Well I can't imagine why a site as controversial as this would exist in such a grey area...

Can you?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think the issue with the processing companies with your site is about the business model more than the content IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Jesus is that true??
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Yep, they even got GAB banned from its hosting company. They found one that really doesn't give a shit because they want to make money which is what companies should be doing.

Even individual YT publishers have been targeted. Channel whacked, demonetized, or patreon/paypal accounts frozen.

I would say there have been many laws broken here. I wish those who have been affected would get together and file class action lawsuits against everyone of them. Just like they're suing everyone over the Catholic/American Indian fiasco.
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Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
 Quoting: Merit


No. It's the banks. When US banks hold and process US Dollars without US jurisdiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

One of my businesses I am a partner in sells cell phone minutes. In South America they still predominantly do that for cell phone usage. We get paid in pesos from those countries customers, even though it's an American company.

Our bank just converts them into dollars, and that's that. You dont need special permission to accept foreign coin.

Conversely, if we pay out to someone down there and they want pesos we just have the bank pay them in pesos. We don't ask permission to do so or need any kind of special designation from that country to do so.
 Quoting: Merit



oh, man.

dude, you get run through KYC and AML when you open your bank account. So does whoever sends in money.

This isn't that hard to understand. Stripe has some
bank agent they're accountable to. Somebody got pissed
off and organized a callin campaign, it got Stripe's
attention, they glanced at the site and decided
they don't want any risk, they don't want their
bank license canceled for any reason because
they're a 1000 person company worth $20 billion.

do the numbers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76677680



yea I'd say that's pretty much it

but the rest of these retarded arguments are... well... retarded
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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Well I can't imagine why a site as controversial as this would exist in such a grey area...

Can you?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I think the issue with the processing companies with your site is about the business model more than the content IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Jesus is that true??
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


It's always been true.
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I have a 25 year old recurring billing company. I would be happy to help if possible.
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I think the issue with the processing companies with your site is about the business model more than the content IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Jesus is that true??
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Yep, they even got GAB banned from its hosting company. They found one that really doesn't give a shit because they want to make money which is what companies should be doing.

Even individual YT publishers have been targeted. Channel whacked, demonetized, or patreon/paypal accounts frozen.

I would say there have been many laws broken here. I wish those who have been affected would get together and file class action lawsuits against everyone of them. Just like they're suing everyone over the Catholic/American Indian fiasco.
 Quoting: A Chosen


well the people organizing and participating in the campaigns to get hosting, payment processing, etc canceled are committing tortious interference and could be held accountable if someone were pissed off enough to take one of these service providers to court and get the complaint records in discovery

damned

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Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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The whole world is going to hell in a hand basket very quickly now...everything is fucked up..

Customer service with most all businesses is rude, ignorant, uncaring, unsupportive, and does not give a shit if they have your business or not..

Why? Because, one way or another, they already have your business..it is all big business now..A handful of companies own everything..

They laugh at us..go ahead and leave your current provider because they next one you choose is also owned by them.

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AC 6926 clearly never made a purchase outside the US.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
 Quoting: Merit


Or never traveled overseas. AC would know if he stuck his US bank ATM card in a bank in Germany, it will give you marks but you will pay a conversion fee unless it's waived. I would just go to the nearest Airbase when I lived there and hit up the bank on base to make the currency exchange. I wasn't charged the conversion fee when I did it this way.
 Quoting: A Chosen



It will give you Euros! Forgive me I am a Brexit sort of person.

ohno uk
 Quoting: MySoul


I still have a lot of currency from all the Euro states before the Euro came along. Some I can still exchange while some is no more.

I still have a lot of pounds (coin & paper) that I kept. I did work there for a while and stayed in a hotel on the Strand. Very pricey since it was downtown but I didn't pay for it. lol
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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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Patreon is also run by Leftists as well. They're lying hypocrites. It seems to me as though literally everything in the human world is collapsing faster and faster into a centered black hole of doom.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


They are ALL afraid of the fascist Left, and what they have already been shown to do to companies that refuse to comply with the Soros/Podesta current truths.

It is far cheaper for them to dump a few customers, than deal with the costs of being boycotted, or the bad press received from just one customer, let alone the what the San Jose investors will do.
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You guys can’t be fucking serious, the mods encourage the racist crap no company would want to be part of, any payment service you choose in the future, the moment they see the content allowed on this site they will cease partnership with you guys, matter of fact ima lurk and report to any company you decide to do business with from now on.5a
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You guys can’t be fucking serious, the mods encourage the racist crap no company would want to be part of, any payment service you choose in the future, the moment they see the content allowed on this site they will cease partnership with you guys, matter of fact ima lurk and report to any company you decide to do business with from now on.5a
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omg

so we shouldn't have free speech because someone might consider it racist

ok snowflake I think you're on the wrong site

return to your main stream media safe zone
Few will listen,
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Understanding does not mean believe,
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The whole world is going to hell in a hand basket very quickly now...everything is fucked up..

Customer service with most all businesses is rude, ignorant, uncaring, unsupportive, and does not give a shit if they have your business or not..

Why? Because, one way or another, they already have your business..it is all big business now..A handful of companies own everything..

They laugh at us..go ahead and leave your current provider because they next one you choose is also owned by them.

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The dollars. It all sounds reasonable until the site collects US dollars.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


You can accept USD for a transaction anywhere in the world. Using a particular currency doesn't subject one to the laws of the country under which that currency is issued.

That argument makes no sense.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



[link to www.finra.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Depends on who the transaction is coming from
where it's going
and who is the transfer agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76677680


yea but we're not a financial institution

believe me guys I'm very well schooled on these issues and my lawyers much more so
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


No doubt that you are. It is a very complex model requiring barristers.
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You guys can’t be fucking serious, the mods encourage the racist crap no company would want to be part of, any payment service you choose in the future, the moment they see the content allowed on this site they will cease partnership with you guys, matter of fact ima lurk and report to any company you decide to do business with from now on.5a
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no man

it's the content for sure

come on

If it were the business model we wouldn't have been with PayPal for like 15 years, prior to stripe and stripe wouldn't have initially approved it and let it go for 7 months and thousands of transactions

no doubt it's the content

there is an active group of left wing nut jobs that are attacking sites like GLP, GAB, info wars, etc...

They literally compile a file on every shitty post they can find then send it to the processors OVER AND OVER until they processor finally says fuck this it's not worth the risk to our "brand", which were literally the words PayPal used.

you're off on the wrong track here for sure

nothing is wrong with the business model

it works
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Jesus is that true??
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


Yep, they even got GAB banned from its hosting company. They found one that really doesn't give a shit because they want to make money which is what companies should be doing.

Even individual YT publishers have been targeted. Channel whacked, demonetized, or patreon/paypal accounts frozen.

I would say there have been many laws broken here. I wish those who have been affected would get together and file class action lawsuits against everyone of them. Just like they're suing everyone over the Catholic/American Indian fiasco.
 Quoting: A Chosen


well the people organizing and participating in the campaigns to get hosting, payment processing, etc canceled are committing tortious interference and could be held accountable if someone were pissed off enough to take one of these service providers to court and get the complaint records in discovery

damned
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I think they would settle before ever letting it go into discover because I think we both know they would find all kinds of illegal shit. If someone does do it, I hope they don't settle but rather expose it all. I can only hope for it too happen and it may if it keeps up because it's becoming a major topic as of late.
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You can accept USD for a transaction anywhere in the world. Using a particular currency doesn't subject one to the laws of the country under which that currency is issued.

That argument makes no sense.
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[link to www.finra.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Depends on who the transaction is coming from
where it's going
and who is the transfer agent.
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yea but we're not a financial institution

believe me guys I'm very well schooled on these issues and my lawyers much more so
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No doubt that you are. It is a very complex model requiring barristers.
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which is also, by design

This aint my first rodeo....

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Define racism mother fucker



Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you ,including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!

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thx for the heads up just canceled my business with Stripe and switched to another one preventing the same problem like you... hah i tolled them also why... hope more people will do the same... im with you Trinity on all of this..

So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

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On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
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Yes apparently he believes there is a magical transference that makes you whatever nationality whose coin you happen to have in your pocket.

If he's right going through customs just got a lot easier.
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No. It's the banks. When US banks hold and process US Dollars without US jurisdiction.
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What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

One of my businesses I am a partner in sells cell phone minutes. In South America they still predominantly do that for cell phone usage. We get paid in pesos from those countries customers, even though it's an American company.

Our bank just converts them into dollars, and that's that. You dont need special permission to accept foreign coin.

Conversely, if we pay out to someone down there and they want pesos we just have the bank pay them in pesos. We don't ask permission to do so or need any kind of special designation from that country to do so.
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oh, man.

dude, you get run through KYC and AML when you open your bank account. So does whoever sends in money.

This isn't that hard to understand. Stripe has some
bank agent they're accountable to. Somebody got pissed
off and organized a callin campaign, it got Stripe's
attention, they glanced at the site and decided
they don't want any risk, they don't want their
bank license canceled for any reason because
they're a 1000 person company worth $20 billion.

do the numbers.
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You're just drooling on your keyboard at this point.

Stripe showed which area in their TOS they had a problem with in regards to GLP. while not specific it was clearly nothing to do with their finances in regards to the business model.

You're apparently just going to keep talking about something that 1.Has nothing to do with the reason for the termination of service as it was outlined by the provider and 2.Keep screwing up acting like you know about what you're talking about with ppl who do business internationally.


It's like you're trying to be right about something, anything, regardless of if it has anything do with what's going on.

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You guys can’t be fucking serious, the mods encourage the racist crap no company would want to be part of, any payment service you choose in the future, the moment they see the content allowed on this site they will cease partnership with you guys, matter of fact ima lurk and report to any company you decide to do business with from now on.5a
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omg

so we shouldn't have free speech because someone might consider it racist

ok snowflake I think you're on the wrong site

return to your main stream media safe zone
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lol ceo of stripe lashing out cuz someone gave him red