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Why You Should Never Use Stripe To Process Your Recurring Subscriptions. (Stripe Responds To GLP)

 
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Bang! Yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


it doesnt matter if you're a financial institution, you're moving money through one.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4903106


Push comes to shove, the $ can go through the Caymans, or Grand Turk.
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that's true.

wish I could say more.
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You don't need to. We know.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

INTJ:
Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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Ok several people have said it (not just me) but the mods and "in crowd" have repeatedly ignored it, which I find interesting.

I find it intetesting because they know more of what's really going on than just about anyone. And by ingnoring it, are they acknowledging it?

So when a nobody like me sees as clear as day this all is all about who has the right to buy and sell, there's no doubt this viral mentality is the beginnings of the implementation for the mark of the beast.

Man, we are closer than I thought at a faster pace I had imagined possible.
 Quoting: Bright Side


Yes, we all see it, have been seeing it progress for years.

If GLP mods could single handedly stop what is happening, we would; however, we are not Marvel superheroes, as much as we might like to be.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

INTJ:
Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

Killer Bunny
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OH how those libs preach against discrimination.

Hilarious how those folks only know how to spew out of both sides of their mouth.

Smh...
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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Great response Trin. I’ll never use them for my business now.
 Quoting: Esoterica


Dittos
Every chance to not recommend or use them, i will from now on
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Curse of the ACs
Almost all of it doesn't matter. Its a distraction from what's important which is your soul. If tomorrow is the last day of your life what is important?
Therefore seek God Jesus and not the drama of the fallen world. It will not be important in the end, only you. If you can avert your priority and attention to your salvation then do that and let someone else be passionate about the cares of the world. Be selfish and serious about your eternal life. Its all a distraction from that.

If you want to forgive everyone and treat everyone equal with true love, despite how you feel, then verbalize this prayer:
Jesus Christ, I accept you as my Lord and my God, the only 1 God, and I put my trust in you to save me from my sins. Please forgive me for every wrong thing that I've ever done according to you. Give me the gift of your Holy Spirit and bless my body and atmosphere and presence. Help me stop all sins and unrighteousness. Thank you Jesus amen.

I might disagree with you but I still care about you deeply.

Jesus bless you! He is the living God!
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Ok several people have said it (not just me) but the mods and "in crowd" have repeatedly ignored it, which I find interesting.

I find it intetesting because they know more of what's really going on than just about anyone. And by ingnoring it, are they acknowledging it?

So when a nobody like me sees as clear as day this all is all about who has the right to buy and sell, there's no doubt this viral mentality is the beginnings of the implementation for the mark of the beast.

Man, we are closer than I thought at a faster pace I had imagined possible.
 Quoting: Bright Side


Yes, we all see it, have been seeing it progress for years.

If GLP mods could single handedly stop what is happening, we would; however, we are not Marvel superheroes, as much as we might like to be.
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Youre being modest. You can hypnotize ppl with your booby trap powers.


Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.

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Ok several people have said it (not just me) but the mods and "in crowd" have repeatedly ignored it, which I find interesting.

I find it intetesting because they know more of what's really going on than just about anyone. And by ingnoring it, are they acknowledging it?

So when a nobody like me sees as clear as day this all is all about who has the right to buy and sell, there's no doubt this viral mentality is the beginnings of the implementation for the mark of the beast.

Man, we are closer than I thought at a faster pace I had imagined possible.
 Quoting: Bright Side


Yes, we all see it, have been seeing it progress for years.

If GLP mods could single handedly stop what is happening, we would; however, we are not Marvel superheroes, as much as we might like to be.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Youre being modest. You can hypnotize ppl with your booby trap powers.
 Quoting: Merit


If only they knew .................
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

and the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

INTJ:
Independent, original, analytical, and determined. Have an exceptional ability to turn theories into solid plans of action. Highly value knowledge, competence, and structure. Driven to derive meaning from their visions. Long-range thinkers. Have very high standards for their performance, and the performance of others. Natural leaders, but will follow if they trust existing leaders.

Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

Follow. But! Follow only if ye be men of valor! For the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel, that no man yet has fought with it... and lived! BONES of full fifty men lie *strewn* about its lair! So! Brave knights! If you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

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Trin, here is my anonymous cowardly unsolicited advice.

If you did not sign a binding arbitration clause file a lawsuit and sue then in court (they likely have a clause saying which district the court litigation will be in etc) higher a local lawyer.

Serve subpoenas to Kevyn and the snowflake crew, set them up to depose everyone you ever spoke with. They for there part will have to get legal advice and representation to defend themselves and this is key ON THERE DIME

Drag it out while keeping it as inexpensive for you as possible if they request records or anything from you request everything and anything they request back and make them pay the big bucks to dig through storage and archives to get what you can likely find easily at your size. Be relentless all the way up to the court date then have them show up.

When they show up with there ten highly paid lawyers billing them $800 an hour each. Have your guy show up and then..... judge if confered with my client and we would like to withdraw the suit.

Just like that you cost them a couple hundred thou in legal fees and time plus triggered the hell out of all there people then took all the power away from them by dropoing the case leaving them to spin in there acid bath of legal fees.

Pry costs you around 2 grand or less total in costs and fees and some of your time. Asymmetrical proportional warfare within the existing legal framework.

Enjoy
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So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

--- My Response ----


On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

Amen in success to sue them for all they have
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So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

--- My Response ----


On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



But the home town bakery who wouldn't bake a cake for LBGT couples gets sued and lose their business for doing the same thing?

I smell bullshit.
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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"No reason at all", mean precisely that. They are not required to tell you shit. Oh, and you agreed to that when you signed on to use their service.

If you were smart, you'd force all subscribers to pay with crypto. No refunds, no recourse. No middle man. Fuck the banks.
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"No reason at all", mean precisely that. They are not required to tell you shit. Oh, and you agreed to that when you signed on to use their service.

If you were smart, you'd force all subscribers to pay with crypto. No refunds, no recourse. No middle man. Fuck the banks.
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Not all subscribers can use crypto... and under the Millennial Reign of Christ Jesus there will be NO crypto.. which is nothing more than a big rip off system.

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Mankind is on the march toward a new and unrevealed planetary destiny.


"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
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Thread: "‘Tuck Buddies’: Underwear to help boys as young as five hide their gender."

And companies like this disgusting thing above are having no problem with money changers!
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Welcome to the civil war, pussy style. It's all pink pillows and remote controlled soldiers. Welcome to the 22nd century.
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Thread: Why is it wrong to be gay?

In this thread one admin has posted a "hate speech" against gays based on his Christian beliefs.

Glp bring a public utility website is being discriminatory. So is obvious that business want to keep their distance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77364276


lol

1. This website is NOT a public utility.

2. There is no such thing as "hate speech" for a United States citizen.

3. If you don't like it why are you here reading it? This is a PASSIVE website. We do not advertise or broadcast it in any way. You have to SEEK IT OUT to be here.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Yes!

I don't know how someone like this even found the door!
 Quoting: Triteia


Because they were looking for it. A lot of hard truth here.
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Could the Stripe employees just identify yourselves and stop pretending youre AC members of this site? It would make this conversation more productive, and less cowardly on your part.

If you truly have nothing to hide and think you are in the right then show examples of what broke the TOS and define the rule it broke in detail. No fuzzy explanations or 'nuance' explanations.


If you're legitimately in the right we won't be able to find examples of the same defined behavior on other sites you process payments for. Simple enough right?
 Quoting: Merit



I'm not a Stripe employee, I'm an oblique competitor.
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That would just make you an agent provocateur, but on this site everyone is. So whatever 1dunno1.

That's like saying you're a white guy in Wisconsin.
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I have NDAs and I like my current job.
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bullshit01
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How can any site collect US dollars from US banks and not be under the laws of the United States?

Strange business model.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


It happens all of the time. It’s not strange.
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Read and learn:

Jersey is a self-governing parliamentary democracy under a constitutional monarchy, with its own financial, legal and judicial systems,[5] and the power of self-determination.[13] The Lieutenant Governor on the island is the personal representative of the Queen. It is the second closest of the Channel Islands to France, after Alderney.

Jersey is not part of the United Kingdom,[14] and has an international identity separate from that of the UK...

Jersey is a distinct jurisdiction for the purposes of conflict of laws, separate from the other Channel Islands

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Callin


So the laws of the United States do not apply. Is there free speech in Jersey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72636926


They don't have any laws on the matter. They are not in the business of telling their companies what they can and can't do.

It boils down to personal jurisdiction (where are you) and corporate jurisdiction (where is the company based).

So if you are in the United States your personal jurisdiction grants you the right to freedom of speech.

The website itself (based in Jersey) isn't actually making any comments at all.

The website itself if simply providing a communications platform, like a telephone company.

Can you hold the telephone company liable for the private conversations of its customers?

Are you starting too understand?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


The dollars. It all sounds reasonable until the site collects US dollars.
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Putin
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It could had been something that a Mod said

Maybe
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Maybe you should lick the puddle on your sheets.
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chuckle
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What part of the MODS pin the threads do YOU not understand?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77280785


What part of the original source is from controlled liberal media n all we do is discuss it that u dont get there Jethro? Why dont u take the wahhhhbulance bitchn to those corporate writers who ain't journalists imo, who're writing this shit? Where's ur outrage at Hollywood? NFL? TMZ, AOL, Yahoo news all social media, et al et-fkn-cetera?? If the articles are good enuff to post n discuss on their sites n shared n discussed all over social media they're good enuff here.

 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Way to not follow the conversation. What I said was that the mods are constantly pinning threats calling for violence or civil war and so on. As a mod, you represent the GLP business, and your (mods in general, not you specifically) actions are responsible for what happened with Paypal and Stripe. It has nothing to do with left/right censorship, and everything to do with the way you run your business.

1dunno1
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Since you keep ignoring everything I say, I'll just say it again. It's also worth mentioning that users can vote on what is pinned and unpinned, and at times we even deliberately pin threads we think are trash so that users can have a field day with a ridiculous premise or claim. These may or may not include a "pinata" tagged subject line, thus it cannot be said that any pin is an official GLP endorsement of any person, place, product, or idea. In short, read the disclaimer, use discernment and do not take things on here so seriously.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


Well said.
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Stripe knew it was time to cut the head off the snakes it could get at.

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Trin, here is my anonymous cowardly unsolicited advice.

If you did not sign a binding arbitration clause file a lawsuit and sue then in court (they likely have a clause saying which district the court litigation will be in etc) higher a local lawyer.

Serve subpoenas to Kevyn and the snowflake crew, set them up to depose everyone you ever spoke with. They for there part will have to get legal advice and representation to defend themselves and this is key ON THERE DIME

Drag it out while keeping it as inexpensive for you as possible if they request records or anything from you request everything and anything they request back and make them pay the big bucks to dig through storage and archives to get what you can likely find easily at your size. Be relentless all the way up to the court date then have them show up.

When they show up with there ten highly paid lawyers billing them $800 an hour each. Have your guy show up and then..... judge if confered with my client and we would like to withdraw the suit.

Just like that you cost them a couple hundred thou in legal fees and time plus triggered the hell out of all there people then took all the power away from them by dropoing the case leaving them to spin in there acid bath of legal fees.

Pry costs you around 2 grand or less total in costs and fees and some of your time. Asymmetrical proportional warfare within the existing legal framework.

Enjoy
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Good advice
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So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

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On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
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Fuck them.
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Fuck them.
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For the record we have not had one single chargeback since we've been using Stripe.

NOT ONE
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Maybe you should consider a $10 bill in a plain envelope in the mail (a PO box). Lots of ac's claim they would join, but they're paranoid about anonymity and this would help them.
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Would be a man hour pain the ass. Someone would have to go through thousands of envelopes then go on the computer and activate and deactivate accounts constantly trying to keep up with all the cash payments. It would be a full-time job.
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Not really, just make it so you have an anniversary date, like sept 1st. All accounts are due on Sept. 1st of each year. Payments will expire sept 1st of each yr. so you have no pro-rated fees either. Ten dollars is due 9/1 -period.
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Don't take this personally Trinity, but I could show you why any number of sites would refuse to work with this site.

It's not your fault man but let's just be honest here and admit to yourself there is a very definitive mindset of the people here and it has nothing to do with Trump.
Has to do with that other thing many Trump supporters on this site are.
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What?

Heterosexual?
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Patriotic?
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Winning?
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Highly Educated?

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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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Spelling his name Kevyn makes that a true statement.
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I was going to say the exact same thing. Spelling Kevyn with a Y, screams liberal snowflake.

I would love to see his birth certificate because I can almost guarantee there is no Y in his name.
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But a huge one in his jeans as he has just a camel toe in desperate need of a poultice.
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Stripe just joined the list...

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Fuck em the only way you can. Choke $$$$
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Lol. Good response to them Trin. The wrong side of history :)
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