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Why You Should Never Use Stripe To Process Your Recurring Subscriptions. (Stripe Responds To GLP)

 
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if it's your financial company,
and you don't do KYC/AML
and Feds find money laundering...

YOU go to jail.
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Everyone should send them a pair of racing stripe underware.
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I hope you find a payment processor I missed glp so much verysad
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So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

--- My Response ----


On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
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Great response! Thank you for sticking up for yourself and us!!
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Trinity, they're probably trying to tell you in an indirect way by mentioning KYC laws is that the Fed's are watching your finances and they no longer want to deal with you because of that.
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Don't take this personally Trinity, but I could show you why any number of sites would refuse to work with this site.

It's not your fault man but let's just be honest here and admit to yourself there is a very definitive mindset of the people here and it has nothing to do with Trump.
Has to do with that other thing many Trump supporters on this site are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70428285


Man, these are just people talking amongst themselves.

This website upsets you because here you can see how people REALLY FEEL.

What you see on Facebook, twitter, youtube, etc is so heavily censored that you're not getting a feel for the real PULSE of society.

You'd like to tell yourself that this place represents some fringe set of ideals but in reality it's this mindset that got Trump elected, so you've got a much bigger problem than some backwater forum on the internet.

It's out there...

People really DO think these things...

Why would you want to shut this place down?

Do you really view it as such a threat?

It's just people talking..

That's all it is.

Why can't you deal with that?

You CHOOSE to come here and read it.

Why can't you let the door be open to others?

It scares you..

Like a poison in the minds of society...

But to us, you are the poison.

ONLY through discourse or war can we resolve our issues.

I much prefer discourse.


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clappa

Been reading your responses.
Thank you for taking the time to educate people!
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Sounds like setting up a payment processor could be a business opportunity.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


^^^^True. But then your up against the Banks that are running the same Totalitarian Agenda.
This is why they have attacked crypto currencies, control of the money is of the upmost importance.
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It has come time for a grass roots effort....there is a void that can be filled by banks that will seek and support a customer base based on an ideology of anti globalization...it can be done.
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Just perusing, I don't see where you are what they call a Restricted Business. And there is no financial risk. It's their policies they use to obscure. However, I fail to see where you violate their policies. Is the Ef-Bee-Eye pressuring companies to do this...?
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Did you try skipjack yet?

[link to www.emerchant.com (secure)]

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--- My Response ----


On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Wow. I'm sorry to hear this! The attack on free speech is out of control. The corporations are selling out there own people.

So sad. Where is the loyalty to free speech?

GLP has all sorts of stuff on it. A good majority of the people aren't racist or hateful but independent thinkers. We look @ everything step, by step. We scratch the surface of any given story. We're curious.

As a consumer being effected by Stripe's poor decision, it is frustrating to hear about. It is insulting. They are insinuating that we, as a group, are hateful, stupid people with an axe to grind. That is wrong.

I'm not a racist or a bigot and I don't appreciate being grouped in that category, thank you.

Seems like it's just an excuse to kill the ideas shared on here; FREE SPEECH. GLP must be a threat to someone, somewhere.

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"You’re on the wrong side of history here."

Kudos, Boss. This has been my favorite phrase for months--every time I call some child-indoctrinating, hedonist school system, or freemason-infested sheriff's office, or Baphomet-worshipping US House representative. I love this line, because it is true.

God bless the people, and shine Your light of clarity on the black hearts of our oppressors. God protect President Trump with Your shield of righteousness.

Trump knows this shit is going on. He's mentioned it a couple times. I think he's keeping the issue on a back burner for some reason. Perhaps anti-trust action is already initiated? Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of history sees fascism plain as day. And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue.

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Simple people :- DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY.
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Absolutely.

Bumped to spread this message to the provinces...

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You could have some kind of backup donation-funding system to combat the payment processors if it causes large gaps in processing, or even for real doom.
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Dear trinity,

I have only read the first page with stripes respond and it is very concerning.

Hopefully you find an even better solution.

Free thinking and free speech is scaring tf out of a group of people who are in control.

People in Germany who dare to even mention doubts or a negative opinion on what's going on are put in the right corner.

It's sad to see how fast everything turns into a shithole.

I wish you best luck because your side has always been a source of new ideas/ crazy stuff and fun. ;)

Best regards

M
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Sounds like setting up a payment processor could be a business opportunity.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I talked to CCBILL this morning.

We are good to go with them.

Also trying to get ahold of second amendment processing but cannot get a response.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


CCporn, I mean bill probably won't have any problems with chip, but they did drop storm front iirc forever ago. So who knows.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72633222


Storm Front was a site centered around white supremacy.

GLP is NOT.

Really more than anything else GLP is centered around REALISM.

We allow open discussion on sensitive topics that other sites won't even allow you to mention.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Is there any way you could build a platform that could compete with twitter?
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why not build a different or several, on paypal, with no reference to anything?

just link it here and see how it rolls?
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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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Or, the "Snowflake" is the guy who uses "LOL" as a response to a business reply when he doesn't know how to handle their policies.
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"You’re on the wrong side of history here."

Kudos, Boss. This has been my favorite phrase for months--every time I call some child-indoctrinating, hedonist school system, or freemason-infested sheriff's office, or Baphomet-worshipping US House representative. I love this line, because it is true.

God bless the people, and shine Your light of clarity on the black hearts of our oppressors. God protect President Trump with Your shield of righteousness.

Trump knows this shit is going on. He's mentioned it a couple times. I think he's keeping the issue on a back burner for some reason. Perhaps anti-trust action is already initiated? Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of history sees fascism plain as day. And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue.

2 more payments on the truck, then I get muh star. Shoon.
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You guys are so lost it is absolutely dumbfounding.
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Fuck them

May they meet the same fate as other people with tyrant syndrome throughout the ages

The giant sleeping bear of Americanism is about to arise and destroy leftism soon enough
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All of you partisans are all on the same side and don't even realize it. You're the problem.
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Lol. Good response to them Trin. The wrong side of history :)
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Stripe also give a great response, terminate at any time for any reason, just the same like us being kicked and IP banned from GLP.

So, Trin, as you do unto others, expect the same being done unto you. Ban for any reason, then get terminated for any reason. Stripe has pretty much the same policy as GLP's.
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I've never really heard of them until recently. I don't remember ever seeing Stripe as a payment option when buying something online.
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And thanks to Stripe's policies, you probably never will. :D
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Keep this permanently pinned

GLP has millions of daily visitors and thousands of business owners.
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Agree. Good threads with important info come and go too fast and aren't seen as a result. This is a war on freedom of speech and everyone needs to be aware of how bad it is and who the enemies are.

Trinity, are you using the processor that Gab is now using? Sites like Gab and GLP need to create some formal corporate alignment until there are thousands of them under one umbrella.
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Lol. Good response to them Trin. The wrong side of history :)
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Stripe also give a great response, terminate at any time for any reason, just the same like us being kicked and IP banned from GLP.

So, Trin, as you do unto others, expect the same being done unto you. Ban for any reason, then get terminated for any reason. Stripe has pretty much the same policy as GLP's.
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You're not a paying customer/member of GLP whereas GLP was a paying customer of Stripe. There's no comparison.
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Just perusing, I don't see where you are what they call a Restricted Business. And there is no financial risk. It's their policies they use to obscure. However, I fail to see where you violate their policies. Is the Ef-Bee-Eye pressuring companies to do this...?
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I believe it's coming from the globalists, specifically the banksters.
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Stripe is named in a subpoenae issued by the New York attorney's office in an ongoing investigation into Trump's political fund-raising both before and after the 2016 election.

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Lol. Good response to them Trin. The wrong side of history :)
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Stripe also give a great response, terminate at any time for any reason, just the same like us being kicked and IP banned from GLP.

So, Trin, as you do unto others, expect the same being done unto you. Ban for any reason, then get terminated for any reason. Stripe has pretty much the same policy as GLP's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77266744


You're not a paying customer/member of GLP whereas GLP was a paying customer of Stripe. There's no comparison.
 Quoting: thinking...

I bet the policy of "terminated for any reason" applies for members too, supposedly with a payback of unused fee. It's a matter of convenient for a business to keep from legal hassle by adopting such policy. You don't like it, don't use their service.

Stripe is quite fair, they terminated the service to GLP, but the backlogs are kept being processed as usual. They just don't want to service GLP for any reason, that's all. It's pure capitalism. Isn't the idea of freedom as supported here means you're free to choose whom you want to service?
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Just perusing, I don't see where you are what they call a Restricted Business. And there is no financial risk. It's their policies they use to obscure. However, I fail to see where you violate their policies. Is the Ef-Bee-Eye pressuring companies to do this...?
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I believe it's coming from the globalists, specifically the banksters.
 Quoting: thinking...

Globalist, banksters, whatever the crap they are, they're just doing the same thing as trumptards and all other GLPers here, BOYCOTT anything they don't like or disagree.
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Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


As much as this sucks, you signed up for the service that says they may cancel you for any reason. Which it does in the user agreement I bet you didn't read or think they would cancel, like most people, myself included.

"We may terminate this Agreement or close your Stripe Account at any time for any reason (including, without limitation, for any activity that may create harm or loss to the goodwill of a Payment Method) by providing you Notice."

You throwing a fit and threating to sue makes you look childish. We all know you don't have a leg to stand you. You signed up for their service that clearly states what they can do.
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Just perusing, I don't see where you are what they call a Restricted Business. And there is no financial risk. It's their policies they use to obscure. However, I fail to see where you violate their policies. Is the Ef-Bee-Eye pressuring companies to do this...?
 Quoting: smeddly


I believe it's coming from the globalists, specifically the banksters.
 Quoting: thinking...

Globalist, banksters, whatever the crap they are, they're just doing the same thing as trumptards and all other GLPers here, BOYCOTT anything they don't like or disagree.
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nice generalistic bullshit retard....
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Trinity, they're probably trying to tell you in an indirect way by mentioning KYC laws is that the Fed's are watching your finances and they no longer want to deal with you because of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77355751


It's probably related to that crypto "private" board.