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Why You Should Never Use Stripe To Process Your Recurring Subscriptions. (Stripe Responds To GLP)

 
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Basically they're saying: "I'll do -


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Your post would only make sense if therev wasnt liberal sites doing exactly what you're Accusing glp of doing towards the right that are protected in their right to do so, and there's many of them.

So your long winded diatribe doesn't hold water.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72438261



Such as? I’d like to compare glp to one of the sites you refer to
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77365134


Let's start with Twitter. How about weather underground? Facebook? There is literal death threats towards ppl on the right daily and the ppl who do so keep their accounts and in the case of Twitter keep their prestige as being a verified member of the platform. While right wing ppl are banned for the exact same behavior and worse.

The fact you even had to ask who when it's the biggest platforms on the planet doing it shows you are not capable of being as reasonable as you pretend to be. It's just intellectually dishonest rambling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72438261


Ironic because Facebook and Twitter has an equal amount of conservatives saying horrendous shit as liberals saying horrendous shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77365134



This is me logged in

Yet look at who is banned for what behavior and who isnt?

That was a pathetic attempt to try and change the subject. There is so many conservatives because they out number the liberals, even with the constant banning.

So, your argument holds no water like I said originally. You're just mad you're talking to someone capable of calling you out on your bullshit

None of your nonsense explains why Stripe can't specifically say what rule was broken either.

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Something tells me "Kevyn" will do anything to keep his cushy job. He couldn't lift a sack of flour and is scared of the outside world.
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who does own stripe?
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AOC's sugar daddy owns Stripe.

AOC gets badmouthed and threatened with violence or sexual harassment (or worse) on GLP.

Is it any wonder Stripe drops GLP?
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blah blah blah blah fast talking to avoid responsibility
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut


What part of the MODS pin the threads do YOU not understand?

Go ahead, keep banning those of us who correct your trying to worm your way out of taking responsibility.

We all see how the MODS are responsible for getting Trinity kicked off payment processors. The next one will be no different.

By the way, you guys also ban people for reporting threads and posts you happen to like. That is also on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77280785


Astro tard keeps saying glp doesn’t publish. I’d argue it does. Just like an op ed, the writers voice and opinion are their own, but the host grants not only the right to post but also a platform for discussion to take place on (published)

When moderators on a heavily censored platform like glp pin threads and encourage discussion that quickly escalates into celebrations of fantastical violence, well you should start to see where the decision stripe made come to play.

Ever thought they looked into some of the magic words that are instantly banned here and what that might mean for them doing business with glp?
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Re: Why You Should Never Use Stripe To Process Your Recurring Subscriptions. (Stripe Responds To GLP)
So you spend years building up a subscriber base and then your payment processor decides to destroy your business overnight and you're left with no recourse?

YES!

Stripe can and will terminate your account without notice and without reason.

For the original communications regarding this issue see this thread:
Thread: Stripe Just Canceled Payment Processing For GLP...

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On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Stripe Support <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello xxxxxxx,

Kevyn with Stripe, stepping in to assist here.I appreciate your reply.

To clarify, Stripe is legally required to complete what's called a KYC (Know Your Customer) Survey for every user that signs up, regardless of how many transactions they've processed. We may conduct further reviews over the life of the account as well, and you can see more on this here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

With this in mind, I do understand your frustration and wish I could give you better news. You're welcome to take whatever steps you deem necessary to protect yourself and your business, however, I do encourage you to review our Service Agreement as your business does fall under our list of Restricted Businesses and Activities: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Additionally, per our Service Agreement, we can terminate an account at any time and for any reason. You can see more on this under Section A here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

Should you wish to proceed via legal channels, your legal team can reach out to us here: [link to stripe.com (secure)]

That said, we do have to impose strict limits on the types of businesses we can and can't support. We're unable to work with any business that we believe poses elevated financial risk, or violates our own policies; in this case, after a thorough review of your account, we have determined that your business falls within these guidelines.

I can assure you that we have done a thorough review of your account, and we will be unable to reverse our decision. We are unable to provide any further details regarding the reason for your account's closure.

I understand this is not what you were hoping for. If you need an alternative payment processor, we recommend considering PaymentCloud, who are able to work with many businesses we're not able to support: [link to paymentcloudinc.com (secure)]

Please feel free to reach out with any other questions you may have.

Best,
Kevyn

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On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:51 AM, xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx <[email protected]> wrote:

Kevyn,

What is your position with Stripe?

I demand this situation be escalated to the highest level.

Basically, you refuse to show me exactly how we violated your terms of service and instead are telling me you have the right to terminate an account for no reason at all?

lol

Do you really think people would use your service to build up recurring subscription revenue if they knew this?

We both know this is an issue of free speech.

You won’t specify how we violated your terms of service because you know we did not.

A third party post on our website is not content published by us. It is published by the user. Further, there is a reporting and removal system on our website for questionable posts.

Would you terminate twitter, facebook, or youtube because someone posted something you didn’t like on there?

It’s outrageous and the world will know where you stand.

You’re on the wrong side of history here.

XXXXXXXX
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Great retort Trinity!
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Sounds like setting up a payment processor could be a business opportunity.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I talked to CCBILL this morning.

We are good to go with them.

Also trying to get ahold of second amendment processing but cannot get a response.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I'd go that path, they violated, just like the gay wedding cake....

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We run $12m through our processor.

I'll make sure we never, ever use Stripe.
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It won't matter - the banks are all in collusion doing this. They will squish any processor they do not like. They REALLY don't like people able to speak freely.
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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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Spelling his name Kevyn makes that a true statement.
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^^ This ^^

'Kevyn' is 100% tranny with spelling like that.
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blah blah blah blah fast talking to avoid responsibility
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What part of the MODS pin the threads do YOU not understand?

Go ahead, keep banning those of us who correct your trying to worm your way out of taking responsibility.

We all see how the MODS are responsible for getting Trinity kicked off payment processors. The next one will be no different.

By the way, you guys also ban people for reporting threads and posts you happen to like. That is also on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77280785


Astro tard keeps saying glp doesn’t publish. I’d argue it does. Just like an op ed, the writers voice and opinion are their own, but the host grants not only the right to post but also a platform for discussion to take place on (published)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77365134

Then you are in fundamental disagreement with the disclaimer of this site, and strangely holding GLP to a different standard than all other websites which act in the same manner and routinely inadvertently host threats without consequence. If you have a problem with ANY post then you can easily report it and it will be dealt with. I see a far more rapid and effective response to threat reports on this site than I ever see on places like YouTube where I have personally reported threats against myself only for nothing to happen and no action to be taken against said threats. If you have a problem with a post, report it, otherwise shut the hell up about it because you have no room to complain.
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Great retort Trinity!


• You understand and agree that your membership to this private establishment can be revoked by this website's staff at any time for any reason whatsoever or no reason at all.
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Let me guess: Stripe's cancellation (real or imagined) will be blamed on the mysteriously-timed AC switch flip, and the whole thing used as a final justification to pull the plug GLP's AC glory once and for all?

That darned awful Stripe company.
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What gets me is didn't they look at this forum BEFORE they approved your account setup? Why did they wait well over a month or so before doing so? Something fishy in that.
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read the original thread...

they spent EXTRA time in reviewing the site before it was approved

then more than SIX MONTHS later and THOUSANDS of transactions they terminate for no reason

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What gets me is didn't they look at this forum BEFORE they approved your account setup? Why did they wait well over a month or so before doing so? Something fishy in that.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


read the original thread...

they spent EXTRA time in reviewing the site before it was approved

then more than SIX MONTHS later they terminate for no reason
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


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Guess STRIPE is ran by snowflakes
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yup.
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For the record we have not had one single chargeback since we've been using Stripe.

NOT ONE
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


and I read the agreement there is not a single thing on there that we are in violation of..
 Quoting: Jake



Check it again.
In the agreement under "Restricted Businesses":


"any business or organization that a. engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence or physical harm to persons or property, or b. engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence toward any group based on race, religion, disability, gender, sexual orientation, national origin, or any other immutable characteristic"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70812861


that doesn't apply to us AT ALL

are you kidding me?

do you think this site promotes violence against anyone?

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The reason by the way they won't point to a specific post or group of posts for the reason they dropped you is because it leaves you the recourse of going to another site they process payments for and finding that same behavior that they are allowing. This would give you a means to appeal and fight back.


It's the same reason Twitter and Facebook don't give a reason. They don't want you going to the nearest leftwing loudmouths page that did worse than whatever youre in trouble for and having you demand that they either unban you or ban that person too.

Because it's not about what was said and never was. It's about whose narrative what was said is supporting.

Which is just blatant discrimination based on dumbass political beliefs and illegal.


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Write your opinion on Google's listing here....

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Great idea, but after reading all the reviews they're doing great at pissing off and losing CLIENTS on their own.

I'm willing to bet that the customers who left the reviews with reports of freezing or closing accounts (for no apparent reason), along with not paying the remaining balance back (some in the 10's of thousands)... are conservatives.

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Apollo Currency has partnered with and effectively created their own payment processing system/organization.

Might be an option down the line. You're connected so I'm sure you wouldnt require help
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You only need to use the words "CGI" and "Dr Astro" in the same sentence to risk getting banned on GLP, so how's that for free speech?
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For the record we have not had one single chargeback since we've been using Stripe.

NOT ONE
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and I read the agreement there is not a single thing on there that we are in violation of..
 Quoting: Jake



Check it again.
In the agreement under "Restricted Businesses":


"any business or organization that a. engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence or physical harm to persons or property, or b. engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence toward any group based on race, religion, disability, gender, sexual orientation, national origin, or any other immutable characteristic"
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that doesn't apply to us AT ALL

are you kidding me?

do you think this site promotes violence against anyone?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Violent threats were allowed on a nearly daily-basis while everyone's "favorite" 'Comedian' was here.

Not to mention bans for no reason with no explanation.
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KYC is a legal thing with credit, fraud, etc laws and regs.

Just Google KYC and it comes right up.
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It's called know your CLIENT not "customer" as the stripe tard said and they did that before we were ever approved in the first place.
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Trin, here is the Wiki page on this "regulation". From what I can tell it has absolutely nothing to do with this website...unless you are trying to launder money lol

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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What gets me is didn't they look at this forum BEFORE they approved your account setup? Why did they wait well over a month or so before doing so? Something fishy in that.
 Quoting: OnTheFence


read the original thread...

they spent EXTRA time in reviewing the site before it was approved

then more than SIX MONTHS later and THOUSANDS of transactions they terminate for no reason
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



this is why they terminated you.

[link to fortune.com]

"Stripe Valuation Doubles to $20 Billion With No IPO in Sight"

they're sitting on a huge potential IPO and all they want is to cash out, so they have zero risk tolerance.
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Write your opinion on Google's listing here....

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Zhivago7


Great idea, but after reading all the reviews they're doing great at pissing off and losing CLIENTS on their own.

I'm willing to bet that the customers who left the reviews with reports of freezing or closing accounts (for no apparent reason), along with not paying the remaining balance back (some in the 10's of thousands)... are conseratives.
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That was my thought when I read through them. They should all make contact and see if this holds any water. If so, they have a valid case. No different than the IRS targeting conservatives.
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Just being honest.

I can't recount the amount of times I was banned for using free speech here.

But then this isn't a public forum, is it?

Just like Stripe isn't a publicly-owned company and therefore they can set whatever parameters they want for who they conduct business with.

Just stating the facts, karma is a bitch and what goes around comes around.

Acting as if GLP has always been the pilar of 'Free Speech' is a joke.
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Funny how you chose an avatar that’s going down in flames...
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Did you ignore my entire post? Yes you did. Read it. This site does not encourage or promote violence. Any posts that promote or encourage violence are removed when they are reported. Read the disclaimer and use the report tool, we are not responsible for the content of user posts and threats are removed when they are reported. By the same token, Facebook, YouTube, and other social media platforms are never liable for threats made on those platforms by users, even when those threats directly preceded major mass murders as so often happens.

If you refuse to use the report abusive post feature then you are in no position to complain about any posts on this site. I do not currently see any reported posts that encourage violence against Hillary Clinton or any other politician.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut



Did you ignore mine (and stripes TOS)? Yes you did. Read the part that says celebrating violence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77365134

This site does not encourage violence. You seem to think this is up for debate. It is not. You seem to think you can hold the site responsible for posts that you yourself refuse to report. You cannot. I addressed any posts encouraging violence. Report them and they will be removed.
I guess I’ll dig through the John mccain, pedesta, and Clinton threads to find countless examples of celebrating violence.
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If you refuse to submit them as abusive post reports, then you are in no position to complain about them. The terms of service of this site are clear, but the site will not be held accountable for posts that you refuse to report so that you can complain about them. If you attempt to hold the site accountable for such posts in order to undermine its association with other companies, you will be shown the door. Such activity is tortious interference with contractual relations and it will not be tolerated.
 Quoting: Dr. Deplorable Astromut



Once again, I’m not talking and haven’t been talking about encouraging violence. I’m talking about all of the celebrations of violence that are posted here. You still haven’t addressed the fact that violence is very clearly and regularly celebrated here.

In fact, could I even report a post as a non member here when AC was banned? And it’s been mentioned how people have been banned for reporting threads, threads are mysteriously deleted, some discussions just not allowed in the first place (that aren’t listed on GLPs tos) and you somehow to expect Stripe to take your guys word for it?

Glp might not directly encourage violence but violence towards others and property are celebrated here daily. That isn’t up for debate. Whether you delete them or not is almost irrelevant, as the nature of the topics of discussion is reoccurring on a multi daily basis and you continue to host them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77365134


The Left doesn't only encourage violence on a daily basis, they LIVE by that standard and show it with the thousands of murders they commit each year and threats of violence they make in REAL LIFE against people on the Right, or anyone who isn't "them."

That's also just objective truth right there.

A lot of what happens at GLP is simply a a reaction to the Leftist extremism, and they would probably claim the same about "us."

This place took a hit when it let Comedian run roughshod over everyone who wasn't a moderator or contributing member.

When we don't police our own enough, others come to do it for us.
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Just being honest.

I can't recount the amount of times I was banned for using free speech here.

But then this isn't a public forum, is it?

Just like Stripe isn't a publicly-owned company and therefore they can set whatever parameters they want for who they conduct business with.

Just stating the facts, karma is a bitch and what goes around comes around.

Acting as if GLP has always been the pilar of 'Free Speech' is a joke.
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you clearly didnt follow all the rules and got caught up in the banning algorithm
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Did this happen because you let the AC free and now the controllers are mad at you?