Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,982 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 982,941
Pageviews Today: 1,794,478Threads Today: 587Posts Today: 13,200
05:33 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Restored Moon Landing Apollo image

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74904616
United States
02/11/2019 09:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Extraterrestrial tinfoil.
LHP598

User ID: 77166529
United States
02/11/2019 09:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
This might have been answered but the flag has the exact same pattern in all photos?

Did they soak it in glue so it looked like it was blowing? WTF
 Quoting: Copious_Sedition


No, it had a support rod across the top to hold it out and the low gravity was not enough to pull out the wrinkles
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76809044
United States
02/11/2019 09:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Start deconstructing those images, start removing those layers.

Let’s see what we’ve really got.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77283817


a plywood floor.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4448622
United States
02/11/2019 09:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Has anyone explained how the flag is waving?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35354613


not waving, held out with a fold-out aluminum horizontal rod...wrinkled from being in the canister on the LM landing strut for very many weeks (was installed on the LM landing strut before the LM was attached to the SIVB 3rd stage, then the CSM and LES were installed).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76809044
United States
02/11/2019 10:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Has anyone explained how the flag is waving?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35354613


not waving, held out with a fold-out aluminum horizontal rod...wrinkled from being in the canister on the LM landing strut for very many weeks (was installed on the LM landing strut before the LM was attached to the SIVB 3rd stage, then the CSM and LES were installed).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622


a big floor fan off camera.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77064257
United States
02/11/2019 10:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
a plywood floor.
 Quoting: Low Earth Orbit


They gave you plywood? I had a mixture of salt and nitre
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77340082
United States
02/11/2019 10:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
So, how did they keep all the crinkled aluminum foil from blowing off that spaceship?

The damn thing literally has thin wrinkled aluminum foil all over and we're supposed to still believe that official story in 2019??

I had no idea moms baking sheets could survive space!alien11ufo56alienship
 Quoting: Peach Head


What would blow it off when it only ever operated in a vacuum?
 Quoting: LHP598


Wrong the moon is not a vacuum.wtf
Aladdin Spain

User ID: 77288833
United States
02/11/2019 10:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Fake as fuck...






Aladdin Spain

User ID: 77288833
United States
02/11/2019 10:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this underneath any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?





.

Last Edited by Aladdin Spain on 02/11/2019 10:34 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76809044
United States
02/11/2019 10:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this on any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?


.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain


the Laws of Physics say there has to be Ejecta when a Force
is applied directly on to it.
janedoenut

User ID: 77358746
United States
02/11/2019 10:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
This is a good shot of aldrin... I have refined the method for restoring so more detail now in a smaller size.
[link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432


that one is pretty cool
 Quoting: Jake


The Timex on is right wrist takes a licking and keeps on ticking but there's a huge rip in his moon glove.
“If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley


"Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4448622
United States
02/11/2019 10:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
a few points...

Half of the spacecraft in space is always in shadow. The sun side heats up while the shadow side loses heat....thus the "barbecue roll" to even out the temperatures.. It was SOP on all lunar missions. The temps of objects don't go from cold to hot and back instantly, takes some time for the surfaces to warm and cool in a vaccuum.

As for the "poke a finger through the skin of the craft"...I know they weren't talking about the LM crew cabin pressure vessel. Maybe some of the Mylar sheets on the outside....and nobody from assembly through flight was poking their fingers through that Mylar either.

On Apollo 13, they lost the SM power, so had to rely on batteries in the LM and CM.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4448622
United States
02/11/2019 10:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this on any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?





.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain


what thrust level were they at? Almost empty of fuel in the descent stage? Quite low considering the weight of the LM at that point. Add in the vacuum plume overexpansion of the DPS engine exhaust, and the result is a wide, strong wind, not concentrateded enough to create a crater.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4448622
United States
02/11/2019 10:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
This is a good shot of aldrin... I have refined the method for restoring so more detail now in a smaller size.
[link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432


that one is pretty cool
 Quoting: Jake


The Timex on is right wrist takes a licking and keeps on ticking but there's a huge rip in his moon glove.
 Quoting: janedoenut


it's an outer glove, not part of the pressure containment. Where is the "huge rip"?
Deplorable Trumpkin

User ID: 77366335
United States
02/11/2019 10:45 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
yea this method actually uses Topaz Gigapixel which i have a paid copy. but also Topaz AI jpg to Raw, which adds more sharp details and allows me better adjustment of the contrast and such then i save to jpeg and done

heres the next [link to cubeupload.com]

the ironic thing is CUBEUPLOAD limits file size to 5mb. so i have to turn the jpg compression up slightly until it fits.. Still it will be a better image than the one on flicker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432


Wow the flag is lit up in that shadow facing opposite the sun. Optics.
Aladdin Spain

User ID: 77288833
United States
02/11/2019 10:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this on any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?





.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain


what thrust level were they at? Almost empty of fuel in the descent stage? Quite low considering the weight of the LM at that point. Add in the vacuum plume overexpansion of the DPS engine exhaust, and the result is a wide, strong wind, not concentrateded enough to create a crater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622



No, they must have had enough fuel to launch from the lunar surface to get back into orbit, which must have been considerable and the nozzle on the rocket motor would quite clearly concentrate the thrust, why wouldn't you concentrate the thrust? Otherwise you would be expending and distributing energy unnecessarily.

The Rocket motor reportedly had a 10,000 pound thrust capacity. A Harrier jump jet has a 30,000 pound thrust capacity for comparison. Common sense tells me that there should be a considerable crater underneath those LEMS, especially with that loose and fine lunar dust and rock, if the lunar rover can kick up debris and dust from that lunar surface and the Astronauts boots can make deep imprints, don't you think a rocket motor with 10,000 pounds of thrust should at least show SOME disturbance?





.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 35827096
United States
02/11/2019 11:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
I'm a photographer and have a nice studio at home. There are still many film shooters around today. Lots of fine art photographers will use medium format film and have it wet drum scanned at hundreds of megapixels. The food photographers at Martha Stewart's magazine still use film I think. At least they did until recently. Film is still superior for image quality for the most part. The military or science labs may have something really awesome.
Base12

User ID: 71650040
United States
02/11/2019 11:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Looks like they fit through the hatch just fine...

[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

1dunno1
Visit my website...
[link to www.mostholyplace.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77217658
Canada
02/11/2019 11:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
$130,000,000,000.00 BILLION DOLLAR$ WORTH OF TIN FOIL, CURTAIN RODS & SCOTCH TAPE: [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]











banana2
DeniedTruths

User ID: 71081212
United States
02/11/2019 11:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
cmon now LOL

no one landed anywhere
 Quoting: 442



Heh heh heh
I study you all.

We are NOT FREE. We are FREE RANGE.

Master of Kentucky windage.

The more I SEE, the more I understand.
The more I UNDERSTAND, the more I see.

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure; one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller

"The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries... We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

If I post something and you are an asshole in your response I will delete you.
IF you are polite and offer information to the contrary.
THANK-YOU
LHP598

User ID: 77166529
United States
02/12/2019 12:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this underneath any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?





.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

There shouldn't be a crater and the surface is disturbed underneath.
[link to www.clavius.org]
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
LHP598

User ID: 77166529
United States
02/12/2019 12:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
This is a good shot of aldrin... I have refined the method for restoring so more detail now in a smaller size.
[link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432


that one is pretty cool
 Quoting: Jake


The Timex on is right wrist takes a licking and keeps on ticking but there's a huge rip in his moon glove.
 Quoting: janedoenut


There is no rip. That is the end of the velcro strap used to tighten it up. Even if a rip there are multiple layers and the pressure layer is quite a few layers down.
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
LHP598

User ID: 77166529
United States
02/12/2019 12:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The entire archive of moon photos is now up on fliker apparently. View them here [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

meanswhile they provide great source images that can be restored.

So if you pick one that looks interesting and you want to see in even more detail then link to it here and i will process it.

meanwhile heres one i just made [link to cubeupload.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44753432




What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM? You don't see this on any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?





.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain


what thrust level were they at? Almost empty of fuel in the descent stage? Quite low considering the weight of the LM at that point. Add in the vacuum plume overexpansion of the DPS engine exhaust, and the result is a wide, strong wind, not concentrateded enough to create a crater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622



No, they must have had enough fuel to launch from the lunar surface to get back into orbit, which must have been considerable and the nozzle on the rocket motor would quite clearly concentrate the thrust, why wouldn't you concentrate the thrust? Otherwise you would be expending and distributing energy unnecessarily.

The Rocket motor reportedly had a 10,000 pound thrust capacity. A Harrier jump jet has a 30,000 pound thrust capacity for comparison. Common sense tells me that there should be a considerable crater underneath those LEMS, especially with that loose and fine lunar dust and rock, if the lunar rover can kick up debris and dust from that lunar surface and the Astronauts boots can make deep imprints, don't you think a rocket motor with 10,000 pounds of thrust should at least show SOME disturbance?

.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

They were throttled down for landing. If they had landed at 10,000 pounds o thrust the LM would be going up.
And they left the descent stage on the Moon. The ascent stage separated and used a separate rocket with separate fuel tanks to return to orbit.
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
LHP598

User ID: 77166529
United States
02/12/2019 12:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
$130,000,000,000.00 BILLION DOLLAR$ WORTH OF TIN FOIL, CURTAIN RODS & SCOTCH TAPE: [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]











banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77217658


loose insulative covering over a sturdy shell
here's what it looked like before that insulative covering was put on.
[link to www.nordenretireesclub.org]
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
Halcyon Dayz, FCD

User ID: 76260827
Netherlands
02/12/2019 04:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
how did those retrograde rockets not blow a dust crater?
 Quoting: RacingGuy

Why should then when they were throttled down for landing and helicopters, harriers and the F-35 don't dig craters with far greater thrust?
 Quoting: LHP598


The reason F-35's and Harriers don't dig craters is because they take off from thick steel deck plates and concrete runways.
 Quoting: Drone#6

You're either enormously disinformed, or an obsessive-compulsive liar.
What's wrong with you?
book

The Soviets had an unmanned lander headed to the Moon the same time as Apollo 11, the intent was to land, scoop some dirt and get back to Earth before Apollo 11. It crashed on the surface.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4448622

That would be Luna 15.
The Soviets had a number of successful landers, including 2 sample-return missions.
They swapped a bit of their material with NASA for comparison studies, so some Apollo material is in Moscow, and some Luna samples are in Houston.
book


What always gets me, is why there isn't a blast crater underneath the rocket motor of the LEM?
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

Because the jet wasn't powerful enough to excavate one.
It's LM, BTW.

You don't see this underneath any of the modules, not even a disturbed surface, how can this be?
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

This is incorrect, you can clearly see that the top-layer of dust has been blown away.
[link to www.flickr.com (secure)]

No, they must have had enough fuel to launch from the lunar surface to get back into orbit, which must have been considerable and the nozzle on the rocket motor would quite clearly concentrate the thrust, why wouldn't you concentrate the thrust? Otherwise you would be expending and distributing energy unnecessarily.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

You're aware that the ascend uses a different engine?

The Rocket motor reportedly had a 10,000 pound thrust capacity.
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

AT FULL THROTTLE!

To hover it of course shouldn't produce more thrust than the craft weighs at that point (otherwise it would go up), with most of its landing fuel expended and in the lunar gravity field.
So a small fraction of that 10,000 lbf.

Common sense tells me that there should be a considerable crater underneath those LEMS
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain

In science we use the Laws of Physics, mathematics, and numbers.
Common sense is often wrong, particularly when not dealing with an Earth-normal environment.
book

"Common sense is actually nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind prior to the age of eighteen" -- Einstein
Reaching for the sky makes you taller.

Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76809044
United States
02/12/2019 04:42 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
$130,000,000,000.00 BILLION DOLLAR$ WORTH OF TIN FOIL, CURTAIN RODS & SCOTCH TAPE: [link to www.flickr.com (secure)]


banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77217658


back in those days they were using Gold foil.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 64355353
United States
02/12/2019 05:15 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
Fake as fuck
 Quoting: Presqu'ile


cruise
Drone#6

User ID: 27738044
United Kingdom
02/12/2019 06:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
1) If you think that Shadow Rock is covered in dust then that's just fine, but don't expect anyone else to LOL.

2) I'm assuming nothing, merely stating that if moonquakes shake off the dust it has to land on the ground and there is no evidence of that.

3) None of the dust free rocks show any signs of landing at any speed, there are no scars or craters in the dust.

4) No, I mean there is no logical solution except for earth weathering. You agree, because you can't explain it any other way either.

It's funny, you can see the 'garvity' of the dust free rocks but are resisting it because it completely destroys the Apollo stories and you know it. It's the evidence you hoped would never arrive: total proof of the fake.

Enjoy! Remember the truth is not good or bad, it's just the truth and it's not going to change however hard we wish it would. I too was once a believer just like you.
 Quoting: Drone#6

No, there may be other logical solutions that we don't know about. You've not proven the rocks are dust free. You've not proven they should have large amounts of dust.
 Quoting: LHP598


Other logical solutions? No, the dust had to go somewhere, it's not surrounding the rock, it's not on the rock but the rock is surrounded by a sea of dust. This is recent WEATHERING.

NASA's photos themselves prove the rocks are dust free. Here's a dust free rock: Shadow Rock from Apollo 16, embedded in the ground dust but with no crater or marks to show how it go there:

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

With Astronaut checking out the shadow
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

With stick and then also an astronaut leaning up against it (note: dust free!)
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]
[link to www.hq.nasa.gov (secure)]

It is IMPOSSIBLE for that rock to have been photographed on the moon as it would be covered with millions of years worth of dust.

There are these
but they've been ignored before




 Quoting: LHP598


They haven't been ignored, they are simply irrelevant. Here are the inclination and heading angles of take off by NASA:
[link to history.nasa.gov (secure)]

They take the Apollo mission right into the worst parts of the Van Allen belts for hours and even if it was a 90 degree polar orbit they would still smash into the sides of the Van Allen doughnut as they orbited out.

For an agency to claim they put three adults in a small bremsstrahling enhancing tin can through the Van Allen radiation belts for nearly 12 hours, left them in open space for 8 days and spent 2 of those days on the radioactive lunar surface and then return with film without a trace of fogging is pathetic, especially when they claim this over some 6 trips.
Drone#6

User ID: 27738044
United Kingdom
02/12/2019 07:05 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
they must have had enough fuel to launch from the lunar surface to get back into orbit, which must have been considerable and the nozzle on the rocket motor would quite clearly concentrate the thrust, why wouldn't you concentrate the thrust?
 Quoting: Aladdin Spain


An interesting point you make in terms of not just weight but weight distribution.

As they landed the LEM would have become more and more top heavy making it more and more unstable the more fuel was burned. Whether this was predicted is uncertain but quite possible: but it was NEVER tested.

The LEM design was fundamentally unstable, a single point thrust with limited angle control and 16 tons balanced on top. There was no computer simulation like we have today, Neil crashed every single earth mockup and it was never tested landing (or ascending!) in lunar gravity.

Neil's problem was the limited thrust vectoring torque for a 16 ton inertial load, once it started to rotate it was very difficult - and generally too late anywhere near the ground - to correct. That's why Neil ejected from the test rig.

Yet the LEM's very first test was Neil's triumphant landing in MGM Borehamwood, England, on Stanley Kubricks moon set with the dust free rocks with a strangely silent engine (technically known as a soundstage gantry crane winch).

Interestingly the lunar scenes in the UFO series and 2001 A Space Odyssey all show clean rocks too, because it never occurred to anyone that the dust should be coating EVERYTHING like a blanket of snow.

Oops!
Drone#6

User ID: 27738044
United Kingdom
02/12/2019 07:12 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Restored Moon Landing Apollo image
The reason F-35's and Harriers don't dig craters is because they take off from thick steel deck plates and concrete runways.
 Quoting: Drone#6

You're either enormously disinformed, or an obsessive-compulsive liar.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Irrelevant, you are attacking me in frustration because you can't break my logic. But thanks for letting me know.

No ideas about how that dust got removed from those 'moon' rocks and where it went? As you can't think of any you have just admitted that the photographed scenes are all on earth.

Congratulations! Your first step toward the truth, embrace it!





GLP