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If one person hurts from this it’s not cool. If a milllion hurt it’s over for all of us.
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Bloated big govt hurts hundreds of millions.
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...The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. ...

Less than 50%
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™?
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Precisely.
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chuck schumer estimated 4 years ago we needed 65 billion
for border fencing
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instead of signing this joke bill,he should call upon all men 35-50 to the border. they can stand on guard duty until the wall is built.

realistically, mexico should be patroling the border as well to stop the illegals. if mexico keeps helping them,we should invade mexico.mexico would be begging us to stop and they would build a wall and dig the moat. we gave them way too much already.
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Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay.
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That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more.
 Quoting: Weyoun

No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now.
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People are paying taxes at gunpoint. You think IRS agents aren't armed? Stop being selfish and think outside your govt bubble for once.
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OK. OK. how’s this hit you then. all I have talked with in person say shutdown was on the President. Gov employees or not it’s going on him from gas station worker to waitress to hotel and cabin Owners. Do as you think best but that number I’m talking about is hundreds ok. Not a dozen or two. Live near or visit an area affected and it’s. His problem to fix. Or lose in 2020. I hope that doesn’t happen. But It may be to late.
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That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more.
 Quoting: Weyoun

No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now.
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People are paying taxes at gunpoint. You think IRS agents aren't armed? Stop being selfish and think outside your govt bubble for once.
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OK. OK. how’s this hit you then. all I have talked with in person say shutdown was on the President. Gov employees or not it’s going on him from gas station worker to waitress to hotel and cabin Owners. Do as you think best but that number I’m talking about is hundreds ok. Not a dozen or two. Live near or visit an area affected and it’s. His problem to fix. Or lose in 2020. I hope that doesn’t happen. But It may be to late.
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Yes, like I said it IS on him and it is a great honor and achievement, feather in the cap. Economy changes and people adapt and move on. If you're a burger flipper at McDonalds and all of a sudden a Chil-Fil-A puts your chain out of business, you move on. There is no congress passing laws to protect your burger flipping job and there shouldn't be. That' is how it works in the REAL WORLD. You don't go around sending armed agents all over the neighborhood to collect $ for your pay and refuse to adapt and move one. Big govt is racket and hurts tons of people. In the REAL WORLD, most taxpayers would be glad for parts of the govt to permanently shut down and have those monies returned back to them.
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...The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. ...

Less than 50%
 Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich


What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™?
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Precisely.
 Quoting: ISO


chuck schumer estimated 4 years ago we needed 65 billion
for border fencing
 Quoting: Jake


That may be more realistic, Trump is seeking the 5 billion for upgrading barriers in high-traffic areas, not for the entire border. Wonder if we could get a discount by adding a wall barrier at the California border?
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What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™?
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Precisely.
 Quoting: ISO


chuck schumer estimated 4 years ago we needed 65 billion
for border fencing
 Quoting: Jake


That may be more realistic, Trump is seeking the 5 billion for upgrading barriers in high-traffic areas, not for the entire border. Wonder if we could get a discount by adding a wall barrier at the California border?
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The California-Arizona border right?
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No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now.
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People are paying taxes at gunpoint. You think IRS agents aren't armed? Stop being selfish and think outside your govt bubble for once.
 Quoting: Weyoun

OK. OK. how’s this hit you then. all I have talked with in person say shutdown was on the President. Gov employees or not it’s going on him from gas station worker to waitress to hotel and cabin Owners. Do as you think best but that number I’m talking about is hundreds ok. Not a dozen or two. Live near or visit an area affected and it’s. His problem to fix. Or lose in 2020. I hope that doesn’t happen. But It may be to late.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169


Yes, like I said it IS on him and it is a great honor and achievement, feather in the cap. Economy changes and people adapt and move on. If you're a burger flipper at McDonalds and all of a sudden a Chil-Fil-A puts your chain out of business, you move on. There is no congress passing laws to protect your burger flipping job and there shouldn't be. That' is how it works in the REAL WORLD. You don't go around sending armed agents all over the neighborhood to collect $ for your pay and refuse to adapt and move one. Big govt is racket and hurts tons of people. In the REAL WORLD, most taxpayers would be glad for parts of the govt to permanently shut down and have those monies returned back to them.
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Question ? Do you have a retirement you worked your whole life for ? Well. I do. I’m not ashamed of my work or my job. I’m 45 years old I’ve worked my whole life and don’t want lose that. I’m not retiring at 50 and I’m not rich. I make 58,000 a year. And have a child graduating. So yes this does get personal. When private jobs end. You don’t lose everything. In mine I could.
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When private jobs end. You don’t lose everything.
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Of course you could. Pensions get killed all the time. Tons of private sector people loose pensions all the time. That's why you save your own monies or prep like real world people do. It is personal for you but also for hundreds of millions who suffer because of big govt. World is a tough place and you've been protected by your govt job for 25 year, at the expense of other people who have to pay your salary at gunpoint.

By the way, I know a govt careerist worker who lost all his retirement because he outed a corrupt supervisor and they retaliated against him. He's lucky he didn't get suicided. Big govt truly is like a mafia.

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Precisely.
 Quoting: ISO


chuck schumer estimated 4 years ago we needed 65 billion
for border fencing
 Quoting: Jake


That may be more realistic, Trump is seeking the 5 billion for upgrading barriers in high-traffic areas, not for the entire border. Wonder if we could get a discount by adding a wall barrier at the California border?
 Quoting: RepublicofTexas


The California-Arizona border right?
 Quoting: Weyoun


Thank you for the clarification, but then in hindsight maybe Oregon and Washington should be walled also.

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When private jobs end. You don’t lose everything.
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Of course you could. Pensions get killed all the time. Tons of private sector people loose pensions all the time. That's why you save your own monies or prep like real world people do. It is personal for you but also for hundreds of millions who suffer because of big govt. World is a tough place and you've been protected by your govt job for 25 year, at the expense of other people who have to pay your salary at gunpoint.

By the way, I know a govt careerist worker who lost all his retirement because he outed a corrupt supervisor and they retaliated against him. He's lucky he didn't get suicided. Big govt truly is like a mafia.
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If I’ve been protected I never knew it.lol. But I did take a job worked hard went back To school. Did it the way I was told it worked in the 80s and 90s. And I’m ok with that. I hate that life has made you so cynical about everything. PS. Next time you eat a burger maybe you should ask if the equipment was cleaned. In case I’m not working anymore.
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Wipe your ass with it and call National Emergency have pentagon and military fund and build it .
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^^^^FUCKING THIS!^^^^
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Trump just got word live on stage in his earphone

sounds pissed
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Well...he doesn't have to sign it....Repubs are spineless wimps!
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we have to primary RINOS now.


Lindsey Graham has to go first Mitch McConnell Second

and Burr third and Grassley forth


Every Republican in the nation has to rise up and get them

out of our house.


We can do it if we all work together
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bump !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hannity is saying only 1.3 billion for a "barrier" not a wall.

Thats a no go for me!
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he's only bot less than 2 years to go to do what needs to be done.
that's not very much time.
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Um excuse me,

He has SIX more years.
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Not if he goes limp dick.
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Trump just got word live on stage in his earphone

sounds pissed
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Well...he doesn't have to sign it....Repubs are spineless wimps!
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we have to primary RINOS now.


Lindsey Graham has to go first Mitch McConnell Second

and Burr third and Grassley forth


Every Republican in the nation has to rise up and get them

out of our house.


We can do it if we all work together
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Jake, you talk about rinos all the time….. so according to you, who is a REAL republican?
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When private jobs end. You don’t lose everything.
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Of course you could. Pensions get killed all the time. Tons of private sector people loose pensions all the time. That's why you save your own monies or prep like real world people do. It is personal for you but also for hundreds of millions who suffer because of big govt. World is a tough place and you've been protected by your govt job for 25 year, at the expense of other people who have to pay your salary at gunpoint.

By the way, I know a govt careerist worker who lost all his retirement because he outed a corrupt supervisor and they retaliated against him. He's lucky he didn't get suicided. Big govt truly is like a mafia.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If I’ve been protected I never knew it.lol. But I did take a job worked hard went back To school. Did it the way I was told it worked in the 80s and 90s. And I’m ok with that. I hate that life has made you so cynical about everything. PS. Next time you eat a burger maybe you should ask if the equipment was cleaned. In case I’m not working anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169


I am rightfully cynical of big govt. Commies killed people in my family. I am not cynical about everything. I just don't depend on or trust in big govt. The founders of American government didn't trust it either. The federal govt is out of control overreach and spending and needs to return to its minimalist roots. Some govt workers will lose their jobs just like people in the real world lose their jobs all the time. There is no stability in any institution of man and never will be. Humanism/socialism is a false idol. I only trust Jesus and His plan, rain or shine.

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Trump will destroy America...count on it!
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There was an 8 year head start!

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8 Years? This shit has been going on for a century or more that I know of. Does Woodrow Wilson ring a fucking bell?
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Trump rally is on right now why are we not watching it??
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cause it is the same as every single other rally he has given the past 3 years

he rambles on and on for a couple hours and throws out his favorite hits to get the audience to suck his cock with applause as he throws out nicknames and catch phrases
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I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working.
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Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169


That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more.
 Quoting: Weyoun

No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now.
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In total sincerity, YOU have a job with retirement benefits...Or you lose your country, and your precious "retirement" goes to the banks because, you don't really actually HAVE any benefit if it isn't tangible. Get it?

Nothing is actually YOURS if you can't actually touch it. It's as valuable as electrons stimulated to emit pictures on a screen.

The question you have to ask yourself was in Braveheart.

Controlling our borders insures that we have a country. An area where certain non globalist principles can be followed.

If we don't have a country, what do YOU as an employee of the People of the United States have?
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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Shut it down until the wall is finished, no matter how long it takes.
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I agree...and then lets start closing other stupid immigration loop holes!
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I support another shutdown. Hopefully if another shutdown happens all the worthless government employees like the TSA, DHS, IRS, CIA, FBI, NSA will all quit and never come back. And if food stamps, WIC, and section 8 get cut off hopefully illegal immigrants would all leave and go back where they came from.
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When private jobs end. You don’t lose everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169


Of course you could. Pensions get killed all the time. Tons of private sector people loose pensions all the time. That's why you save your own monies or prep like real world people do. It is personal for you but also for hundreds of millions who suffer because of big govt. World is a tough place and you've been protected by your govt job for 25 year, at the expense of other people who have to pay your salary at gunpoint.

By the way, I know a govt careerist worker who lost all his retirement because he outed a corrupt supervisor and they retaliated against him. He's lucky he didn't get suicided. Big govt truly is like a mafia.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If I’ve been protected I never knew it.lol. But I did take a job worked hard went back To school. Did it the way I was told it worked in the 80s and 90s. And I’m ok with that. I hate that life has made you so cynical about everything. PS. Next time you eat a burger maybe you should ask if the equipment was cleaned. In case I’m not working anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169


I am rightfully cynical of big govt. Commies killed people in my family. I am not cynical about everything. I just don't depend on or trust in big govt. The founders of American government didn't trust it either. The federal govt is out of control overreach and spending and needs to return to its minimalist roots. Some govt workers will lose their jobs just like people in the real world lose their jobs all the time. There is no stability in any institution of man and never will be. Humanism/socialism is a false idol. I only trust Jesus and His plan, rain or shine.
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This we agree on. Govt. is to big.but there are ways to shrink govt. without doing all the shutdown stuff. It harms more people than needed and then you lose the presidency and the senate. Everything swings back to the Dems. And we’re screwed. Don’t take to big of a bit or we will choke on it. The Dems don’t understand this. I don’t think the Rep. do either. Obama care was the bit that kill them. If we want trump for 2 terms. And I do. Then don’t take to big of a bit. Or we all choke.
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Congress is no damn good. they need to be disbanded
and sent home.
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Only 2 billion???? WTF ??????
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$1.4 billion agreed for ambiguous "physical barriers" lmao
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Only 2 billion???? WTF ??????
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$1.4 billion agreed for ambiguous "physical barriers" lmao
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New fencing in other words.
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Only 2 billion???? WTF ??????
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$1.4 billion agreed for ambiguous "physical barriers" lmao
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New fencing in other words.
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well, they're going to misplace and lose half of that.
so, it's really not very much.
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All you Trump tards are a bunch of fucking idiots. Your worse than libtards.

"Oh he must have asked for more than he needed, 5d chess."

What a bunch of retards. 5 billion is not even enough to build half the needed wall.
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If he signs this it's a failure. Plain and simple.

Get that through your small brains and let it saturate for a bit.
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I hope Trump shuts it down just on principle. What a f'ing joke. Texas Stadium, yes a football field, cost $1.15 Billion. And Congress thinks our Nation's security is worth a football stadium? FYYFFs
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Dont know how accurate this is:

The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. Democrats have agreed to at least some money for border structures despite taking a hard line against it during the recently ended 35-day partial shutdown.

Less than 50%

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Trump is a Master Builder. If he told them he needed $5.7 its because he knows he will get it done for $3.

:thebosstrump:
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The wall's total cost is in excess of $20 billion. Art of the deal. 1rof1