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I'm with Trump. User ID: 74814959 United States 02/11/2019 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The details are slowly trickling out -- but here's what we hear has been agreed to: $1.375 billion for physical barriers (bollard fencing) 40,520 level for overall ICE beds (down from current 49,057 level) Previously I’m with Trump. I will not comply Molon Labe ".....Shall not be infringed." I'm pro guns. I'm pro life. I'm saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Respect veterans. |
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Carnac User ID: 76010295 United States 02/11/2019 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zero Chance he sighs this at 1.3. Billion ...I bet he wipes his ass with it folds it and hands it back to sender . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71928940 I would take the money and then immediately declare a national emergency. While the lawsuits over the national emergency go through the courts, he can use the 1.3 to start the new wall. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
I'm with Trump. User ID: 74814959 United States 02/11/2019 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That will only cover 55 miles of new fencing apparently. I’d say there’s a snowballs chance in hell that this get signed. If he does sign it, look out for one of two things in this order: 1.Using an executive order to draw funds from other areas to continue building walls. 2.accepting what he can get and declaring a national emergency (which believe it or not is actually MORE likely after this deal) MAGA Previously I’m with Trump. I will not comply Molon Labe ".....Shall not be infringed." I'm pro guns. I'm pro life. I'm saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Respect veterans. |
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I'm with Trump. User ID: 74814959 United States 02/11/2019 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hannity is saying only 1.3 billion for a "barrier" not a wall. Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Thats a no go for me! he's only bot less than 2 years to go to do what needs to be done. that's not very much time. Um excuse me, He has SIX more years. Previously I’m with Trump. I will not comply Molon Labe ".....Shall not be infringed." I'm pro guns. I'm pro life. I'm saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Respect veterans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 02/11/2019 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hannity is saying only 1.3 billion for a "barrier" not a wall. Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Thats a no go for me! he's only got less than 2 years to go to do what needs to be done. that's not very much time. Um excuse me, He has SIX more years. if he doesn't produce BigTime he ain't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75392169 United States 02/11/2019 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just hope it stays open the rest of my life. I’m tired of this shutdown crap. From a small town USDA. employee of 25 yrs. and a trump voter and supporter. Not to rain on everyone’s parade but. Shutdown doesn’t help the president like a lot of you think. As one person told me during the last one. No one really wins. But only the President gets blamed nationwide. Because if you think about it a bit. Only the president can be voted for by everyone effected by a shutdown. No matter who’s to blame for it. I’m in Virginia. I can’t vote for Pelosi here. Can you ? Remember that a shutdown hurts a lot of people just working for a pay check like everyone else. We’re not robots or assholes. we’re you different job same shit to put up with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169 If you're tired of it, then find another job. Govt is too bloated and inefficient and needs to be downsized immediately. Huge sections of govt need to be permanently canceled. If Trump can successfully cut off the fat and turn the federal govt into a lean, efficient, and UNDER-BUDGET machine like it's supposed to be, yes he'll get the "blame" and that "blame" would be a great honor and feather in his cap. About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. |
Weyoun User ID: 76234375 United States 02/11/2019 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just hope it stays open the rest of my life. I’m tired of this shutdown crap. From a small town USDA. employee of 25 yrs. and a trump voter and supporter. Not to rain on everyone’s parade but. Shutdown doesn’t help the president like a lot of you think. As one person told me during the last one. No one really wins. But only the President gets blamed nationwide. Because if you think about it a bit. Only the president can be voted for by everyone effected by a shutdown. No matter who’s to blame for it. I’m in Virginia. I can’t vote for Pelosi here. Can you ? Remember that a shutdown hurts a lot of people just working for a pay check like everyone else. We’re not robots or assholes. we’re you different job same shit to put up with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169 If you're tired of it, then find another job. Govt is too bloated and inefficient and needs to be downsized immediately. Huge sections of govt need to be permanently canceled. If Trump can successfully cut off the fat and turn the federal govt into a lean, efficient, and UNDER-BUDGET machine like it's supposed to be, yes he'll get the "blame" and that "blame" would be a great honor and feather in his cap. About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. A few will experience temporary discomfort, but the long term net effect of paring down the government to minimalist, lean, and efficient entity as our founding fathers intended will be overwhelmingly positive. Imagine the tax revenue reductions and that $ going back into the economy or people's savings. Even in the short-term, the Americans that will benefit way outnumber the few crybabies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75392169 United States 02/11/2019 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just hope it stays open the rest of my life. I’m tired of this shutdown crap. From a small town USDA. employee of 25 yrs. and a trump voter and supporter. Not to rain on everyone’s parade but. Shutdown doesn’t help the president like a lot of you think. As one person told me during the last one. No one really wins. But only the President gets blamed nationwide. Because if you think about it a bit. Only the president can be voted for by everyone effected by a shutdown. No matter who’s to blame for it. I’m in Virginia. I can’t vote for Pelosi here. Can you ? Remember that a shutdown hurts a lot of people just working for a pay check like everyone else. We’re not robots or assholes. we’re you different job same shit to put up with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169 If you're tired of it, then find another job. Govt is too bloated and inefficient and needs to be downsized immediately. Huge sections of govt need to be permanently canceled. If Trump can successfully cut off the fat and turn the federal govt into a lean, efficient, and UNDER-BUDGET machine like it's supposed to be, yes he'll get the "blame" and that "blame" would be a great honor and feather in his cap. About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 02/11/2019 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | President Trump, SHUT IT DOWN, til you get what you really want.... Quoting: Asymptote And RIF a different department weekly until they give you what you will really need to build that wall.... Perhaps you need to actually WRITE HIM and say this. Instead of on GLP? Or have you? he has people who read it and then give him bullet point summaries. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77301115 United States 02/11/2019 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hannity is saying only 1.3 billion for a "barrier" not a wall. Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Thats a no go for me! he's only bot less than 2 years to go to do what needs to be done. that's not very much time. Um excuse me, He has SIX more years. No he doesn't. He won by like 100,000 in the states that matter which is the swing states. At the rate illegals are pouring across the border he has already lost the next election. Especially because a big chunk of his voters only care about the wall. With very little being built they have no reason to vote for him again. |
ISO User ID: 76734104 United States 02/11/2019 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. ... Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Less than 50% What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™? Precisely. |
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Weyoun User ID: 76234375 United States 02/11/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun If you're tired of it, then find another job. Govt is too bloated and inefficient and needs to be downsized immediately. Huge sections of govt need to be permanently canceled. If Trump can successfully cut off the fat and turn the federal govt into a lean, efficient, and UNDER-BUDGET machine like it's supposed to be, yes he'll get the "blame" and that "blame" would be a great honor and feather in his cap. About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay. That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77301115 United States 02/11/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. ... Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Less than 50% What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™? Precisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77363864 United States 02/11/2019 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hannity is saying only 1.3 billion for a "barrier" not a wall. Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Thats a no go for me! he's only bot less than 2 years to go to do what needs to be done. that's not very much time. Um excuse me, He has SIX more years. No he doesn't. He won by like 100,000 in the states that matter which is the swing states. At the rate illegals are pouring across the border he has already lost the next election. Especially because a big chunk of his voters only care about the wall. With very little being built they have no reason to vote for him again. I tend to agree with this. Florida in particular really fked up by letting felons vote. I'm a big Trump guy but he's in trouble for 2020 if he doesn't get the wall. Failure to do so might end up making the wall the new "no news taxes" line. |
WaitTressSandwhich (OP) User ID: 76356891 United States 02/11/2019 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His approval rating has gone since though From the author of Blade Runner: “There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.” Philip K. Dick |
hankie Everything User ID: 76897763 United States 02/11/2019 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Expect gun control legislation compromise in exchange for border wall funding Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76334201 We have to pass it to see what's in it. Remember? Excellent comment! That is why I want the Gov't shut down and drained. We need the senate right now, say someone can not get back to the Supreme Court, the Senate will have to be ready to get the pick signed sealed and delivered to the Seat so to speak. Good, idea to be working with them for sure. They have grown some a little bit recently as of the time Trump got elected. They can do the work and they have enough to get the person in. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75392169 United States 02/11/2019 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weyoun If you're tired of it, then find another job. Govt is too bloated and inefficient and needs to be downsized immediately. Huge sections of govt need to be permanently canceled. If Trump can successfully cut off the fat and turn the federal govt into a lean, efficient, and UNDER-BUDGET machine like it's supposed to be, yes he'll get the "blame" and that "blame" would be a great honor and feather in his cap. About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. A few will experience temporary discomfort, but the long term net effect of paring down the government to minimalist, lean, and efficient entity as our founding fathers intended will be overwhelmingly positive. Imagine the tax revenue reductions and that $ going back into the economy or people's savings. Even in the short-term, the Americans that will benefit way outnumber the few crybabies. I had hoped for a civil discussion without name calling. You little minded bitch. You call a waitress or hotel worker a crybaby. If one person hurts from this it’s not cool. If a milllion hurt it’s over for all of us. do you not see that. If a long term shutdown happens again. The only thing that happens is Schumer and the Dems win everything Again. GAME OVER. |
WaitTressSandwhich (OP) User ID: 76356891 United States 02/11/2019 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sen Mark Meadows poring cold water on deal as "not a serious attempt at border security". No link....was a Fox interview. From the author of Blade Runner: “There will come a time when it isn't 'They're spying on me through my phone' anymore. Eventually, it will be 'My phone is spying on me'.” Philip K. Dick |
Weyoun User ID: 76234375 United States 02/11/2019 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. A few will experience temporary discomfort, but the long term net effect of paring down the government to minimalist, lean, and efficient entity as our founding fathers intended will be overwhelmingly positive. Imagine the tax revenue reductions and that $ going back into the economy or people's savings. Even in the short-term, the Americans that will benefit way outnumber the few crybabies. I had hoped for a civil discussion without name calling. You little minded bitch. You call a waitress or hotel worker a crybaby. If one person hurts from this it’s not cool. If a milllion hurt it’s over for all of us. do you not see that. If a long term shutdown happens again. The only thing that happens is Schumer and the Dems win everything Again. GAME OVER. They are only cry babies if they cry like you are doing. I've been laid off many times and never blamed others nor whined like a baby. I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and moved on and survived. Downsizing and layoffs are part of normal life and if I were manager I would've done the same layoff if I had to. By the way, work 25 years straight for a single employer in the private sector is practically unheard of nowadays. No private sector person relates with you. You have been insulated in your govt world for too long and it has distorted your perception what regular Americans think and feel. Shutdown needs to be PERMANENT! Non-essential employees don't exist in the private sector because they would've been laid off long ago and should much less exist in govt with such great potential for national waste, tyranny and corruption. |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 02/11/2019 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont know how accurate this is: Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. Democrats have agreed to at least some money for border structures despite taking a hard line against it during the recently ended 35-day partial shutdown. Less than 50% [link to www.wbay.com (secure)] Fellow Wisconsinite????)) "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75392169 United States 02/11/2019 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes About 3 years ago, the USDA didn't have any idea how many employees they actually had. Government is undeniably bloated. As a poor person, less than 24k per year for a married couple, the freaking shutdown wasn't felt a bit in our home. We will not take any of the socialist funding. Screw that. Shut the damn thing down again. Declare a new Emergency and kick the socialists in the teeth. I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay. That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more. No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now. |
Weyoun User ID: 76234375 United States 02/11/2019 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75392169 I think you miss the point I’m trying to make. As this crap goes on it starts to harm more and more people. The national park situation was starting to affect hours for restaurant and hotel workers near the Great Smoky Mountains. The only thing that slowed it was time of year not the volunteers trying to keep think working. Also. To set this straight one time. If you leave a Federal Gov. job. While you are furloughed. you could lose your retirement.and 401k Match if you do anything considered conflict of interest. So not an option. OK. Couldn’t even take a temporary job because of being considered exempted. And had to work without pay. That's how it is with any private sector job, except worse because private sector people don't have congress gauranteeing them back pay. Yet, people in the private sector change careers all the time, either voluntarily or being layed off, and survive. The vast majority of Americans are private sector and when they hear govt workers whine about their gauranteed incomes funded by American taxpayers by threat of gunpoint, it only alienates you more. No. Not threat of gunpoint. When I took this job at lower pay it was for the benifiits. The insurance at that time. In 95. Now I’m so far invested I can’t see why I would leave. If this Gov wants to fix the border they would have done it in the past 100 years. Don’t put it all on one generation to do it all now. People are paying taxes at gunpoint. You think IRS agents aren't armed? Stop being selfish and think outside your govt bubble for once. |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 02/11/2019 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The final figure for the wall is sure to come in below $2 billion, far below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded. ... Quoting: WaitTressSandwhich Less than 50% What if the deal making summbitch only really needed 1.5 and this was just a lesson for dems in the Art of the Deal™? "The more you know, the crazier you look" |