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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 76783046 United States 02/14/2019 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only register new weapons, I recommend having some that are not registered as well... I don't buy new guns, because they have to be registered. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
docsquat User ID: 77350408 United States 02/14/2019 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe he’s setting the law up to be tested in court. Gotta get it to the Supremes somehow. Let’s face it, when first approached about the gun he should have said “funny thing, I registered it, then went fishing and the damn thing fell out of my boat in lake liawatha.” Lesson: never, never, never ever register a gun. Last Edited by docsquat on 02/14/2019 08:58 AM Purity of Essence |
Misspurrrrrect User ID: 15572297 United States 02/14/2019 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is situational! I don't particularly like the "take it first" comment, but do you remember the situation it was concerning? At any rate UK, we have it soooo much better than you poor schmucks do with our constitutional amendments being up held, I will take "Trumps America" over your shit hole country any day. Forewarned is forearmed and we saw you people cave in years ago and give up your weapons. If that EVER happens to the US the rest of the world is toast! You better pray we drag this mess out and prevail, it will have a direct bearing on your miserable future as well as ours. Get your nasty attitude in the right position (pun intended) and help your country regain its freedom ...... |
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Forever.the.Student User ID: 28441220 United States 02/14/2019 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Never ever call guns 'guns'.... call them 'PROPERTY' ! Call everything property (even your kids) It drives the state agents nuts, and binds their hands even more. "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73722498 United States 02/14/2019 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He (or she) now officially has injury, which gives standing, to a case to head all the way up to SCOTUS if needed. Quoting: tkwasny No lawyer will take the case to try win it, he will want to have everyone send him cash and he will want to be paid well for wasting your time and everyones donation. They've taken tougher cases and won, like the one about open carry in Hawaii. If this guy had his guns taken without a warrant then lawyers will be all over it. |
tkwasny User ID: 71641081 United States 02/14/2019 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He (or she) now officially has injury, which gives standing, to a case to head all the way up to SCOTUS if needed. Quoting: tkwasny No lawyer will take the case to try win it, he will want to have everyone send him cash and he will want to be paid well for wasting your time and everyones donation. They've taken tougher cases and won, like the one about open carry in Hawaii. If this guy had his guns taken without a warrant then lawyers will be all over it. To win a case in high court is a lawyers career-maker. It's a quantum leap up the chain of command towards judgeship. |
Forever.the.Student User ID: 28441220 United States 02/14/2019 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it's done ! (no excuses !) Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The Title 15A & 17A mentioned are Maine Revised Statute Titles Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968) - [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] In justifying a particular search or seizure, a police officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which...reasonably warrant the search. This could be a reasonable suspicion ... that his safety or that of others was in danger, or that a specific crime was being committed. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979) - [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] Mainly applies to vehicles, but says that except in those situations in which there is at least articulable and reasonable suspicion that a motorist is unlicensed or that an automobile is not registered, or that either the vehicle or an occupant has otherwise violated the law, stopping an automobile and detaining the driver in order to check his driver's license and the registration of the automobile are unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. Meaning, you can't stop and search someone just to find out if they might be a criminal. You have to have a reason to think they are a criminal before you stop them. Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47, 52 (1979) - [link to supreme.justia.com (secure)] When a police officer stops and demands identification from an individual without any specific basis for believing he is involved in criminal activity (reasonable suspicion) it is a violation of that person's 4th Amendment rights and can't be allowed. In sum, you're not required to give your ID to a police officer unless he has an articulable reason to suspect you of committing a crime. U.S. v. DeBerry, 76 F.3d 884, 885 (7th Cir. 1996) - [link to casetext.com (secure)] Essentially says that police are allowed to ask you any questions they want (just like any stranger on the street can ask you any questions they want), the police CAN'T, however, seize someone unless they have "a reasonable belief and not a mere hunch that the person carrying the gun was violating the law." Last Edited by Forever.the.Student on 02/14/2019 09:15 AM "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
Misspurrrrrect User ID: 15572297 United States 02/14/2019 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those of you calling him a pussy, if a group of cops showed up at your house do you really expect us to believe you'd start shooting them? No, you wouldn't. Unless you're a violent criminal, mentally ill or have nothing to lose. There will never be a revolution because life is too comfortable for everyone. The average gun owner has a job, family and home and isn't going to risk their lives to defend their rights. The American spirit of freedom and rebellion died generations ago and it's only going to get worse as the demographics continue to shift in favor of low IQ foreigners who prefer handouts to freedom and self reliance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73722498 The scenario you suggest is my greatest fear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75832499 United Kingdom 02/14/2019 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it's done ! Quoting: Forever.the.Student Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968): In justifying a particular search or seizure, a police officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which...reasonably warrant the search. This could be a reasonable suspicion ... that his safety or that of others was in danger, or that a specific crime was being committed. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979): Mainly applies to vehicles, but says that except in those situations in which there is at least articulable and reasonable suspicion that a motorist is unlicensed or that an automobile is not registered, or that either the vehicle or an occupant has otherwise violated the law, stopping an automobile and detaining the driver in order to check his driver's license and the registration of the automobile are unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. Meaning, you can't stop and search someone just to find out if they might be a criminal. You have to have a reason to think they are a criminal before you stop them. Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47, 52 (1979): When a police officer stops and demands identification from an individual without any specific basis for believing he is involved in criminal activity (reasonable suspicion) it is a violation of that person's 4th Amendment rights and can't be allowed. In sum, you're not required to give your ID to a police officer unless he has an articulable reason to suspect you of committing a crime. U.S. v. DeBerry, 76 F.3d 884, 885 (7th Cir. 1996): Essentially says that police are allowed to ask you any questions they want (just like any stranger on the street can ask you any questions they want), the police CAN'T, however, seize someone unless they have "a reasonable belief and not a mere hunch that the person carrying the gun was violating the law." what a fucking dick (the perp not the cop) if your gonna be walking around carrying a gun and people see you course the police are gonna question you jesus how stupid and arrogant can people be ? and they wonder why theres so many mass shootings |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73722498 United States 02/14/2019 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it's done ! Quoting: Forever.the.Student Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968): In justifying a particular search or seizure, a police officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which...reasonably warrant the search. This could be a reasonable suspicion ... that his safety or that of others was in danger, or that a specific crime was being committed. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979): Mainly applies to vehicles, but says that except in those situations in which there is at least articulable and reasonable suspicion that a motorist is unlicensed or that an automobile is not registered, or that either the vehicle or an occupant has otherwise violated the law, stopping an automobile and detaining the driver in order to check his driver's license and the registration of the automobile are unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. Meaning, you can't stop and search someone just to find out if they might be a criminal. You have to have a reason to think they are a criminal before you stop them. Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47, 52 (1979): When a police officer stops and demands identification from an individual without any specific basis for believing he is involved in criminal activity (reasonable suspicion) it is a violation of that person's 4th Amendment rights and can't be allowed. In sum, you're not required to give your ID to a police officer unless he has an articulable reason to suspect you of committing a crime. U.S. v. DeBerry, 76 F.3d 884, 885 (7th Cir. 1996): Essentially says that police are allowed to ask you any questions they want (just like any stranger on the street can ask you any questions they want), the police CAN'T, however, seize someone unless they have "a reasonable belief and not a mere hunch that the person carrying the gun was violating the law." what a fucking dick (the perp not the cop) if your gonna be walking around carrying a gun and people see you course the police are gonna question you jesus how stupid and arrogant can people be ? and they wonder why theres so many mass shootings Open carry isn't illegal in many parts of the U.S. However guys like the one in that video only do it to provoke people and the cops. |
Forever.the.Student User ID: 28441220 United States 02/14/2019 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it's done ! Quoting: Forever.the.Student Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968): In justifying a particular search or seizure, a police officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which...reasonably warrant the search. This could be a reasonable suspicion ... that his safety or that of others was in danger, or that a specific crime was being committed. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979): Mainly applies to vehicles, but says that except in those situations in which there is at least articulable and reasonable suspicion that a motorist is unlicensed or that an automobile is not registered, or that either the vehicle or an occupant has otherwise violated the law, stopping an automobile and detaining the driver in order to check his driver's license and the registration of the automobile are unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. Meaning, you can't stop and search someone just to find out if they might be a criminal. You have to have a reason to think they are a criminal before you stop them. Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47, 52 (1979): When a police officer stops and demands identification from an individual without any specific basis for believing he is involved in criminal activity (reasonable suspicion) it is a violation of that person's 4th Amendment rights and can't be allowed. In sum, you're not required to give your ID to a police officer unless he has an articulable reason to suspect you of committing a crime. U.S. v. DeBerry, 76 F.3d 884, 885 (7th Cir. 1996): Essentially says that police are allowed to ask you any questions they want (just like any stranger on the street can ask you any questions they want), the police CAN'T, however, seize someone unless they have "a reasonable belief and not a mere hunch that the person carrying the gun was violating the law." what a fucking dick (the perp not the cop) if your gonna be walking around carrying a gun and people see you course the police are gonna question you jesus how stupid and arrogant can people be ? and they wonder why theres so many mass shootings Says the indoctrinated slave. This is how a well informed man handles his business. The 'perp' as you say is a law student at the University of Maine.. about 1 mile up the road. Last Edited by Forever.the.Student on 02/14/2019 09:20 AM "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73722498 United States 02/14/2019 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thatshow it went down in Europe. Register first, confiscate second. CA needs to rise like NY did to Cuomo. NY shoved the SAFE act down hist throat. I live in California and gun rights are a lost cause. Every single year they pass more anti-gun bullshit. I heard the newest one is going to require guns to be locked up every time you leave your house. |
Off Switch User ID: 77354833 United States 02/14/2019 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fuse is about to run out. They are going to start something they can’t undo. It’s coming. Bad or missing keyboard. Press F1 to continue.... |
Judge_Death User ID: 75832499 United Kingdom 02/14/2019 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how it's done ! Quoting: Forever.the.Student Detained for Open Carry, Portland, Maine 26MAY2012 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968): In justifying a particular search or seizure, a police officer must be able to point to specific and articulable facts which...reasonably warrant the search. This could be a reasonable suspicion ... that his safety or that of others was in danger, or that a specific crime was being committed. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 (1979): Mainly applies to vehicles, but says that except in those situations in which there is at least articulable and reasonable suspicion that a motorist is unlicensed or that an automobile is not registered, or that either the vehicle or an occupant has otherwise violated the law, stopping an automobile and detaining the driver in order to check his driver's license and the registration of the automobile are unreasonable under the Fourth Amendment. Meaning, you can't stop and search someone just to find out if they might be a criminal. You have to have a reason to think they are a criminal before you stop them. Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47, 52 (1979): When a police officer stops and demands identification from an individual without any specific basis for believing he is involved in criminal activity (reasonable suspicion) it is a violation of that person's 4th Amendment rights and can't be allowed. In sum, you're not required to give your ID to a police officer unless he has an articulable reason to suspect you of committing a crime. U.S. v. DeBerry, 76 F.3d 884, 885 (7th Cir. 1996): Essentially says that police are allowed to ask you any questions they want (just like any stranger on the street can ask you any questions they want), the police CAN'T, however, seize someone unless they have "a reasonable belief and not a mere hunch that the person carrying the gun was violating the law." what a fucking dick (the perp not the cop) if your gonna be walking around carrying a gun and people see you course the police are gonna question you jesus how stupid and arrogant can people be ? and they wonder why theres so many mass shootings Says the indoctrinated slave. This is how a well informed man handles his business. The 'perp' as you say is a law student at the University of Maine.. about 1 mile up the road. So fucking what ? Ted Bundy was a law student but he was one of the biggest psychos of all time The crime is life, the sentence is death..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77289551 United States 02/14/2019 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | depending upon YOUR location, read and learn the penalties for "housing" an unregistered "gun". IF you are located in a free zone where registration under state law is not a demand but must follow federal law,learn the penalties. SO THEN understand THAT demanding a permit for CONCEALED CARRY IS total bs as THEN YOU ARE REGISTERED and they know.....right down to being able to run your name,address,license plates vehicle etc. bringing us right back to only the law abiding obeying the law which IS a set up for confiscation. do the risks outweigh the penalties ? and of course in certain states you don't have to have a permit for CCW, can "carry" firearms in your vehicle as under the law it is an extension of the home etc. PS & for all suggesting burying them-we would have already "missed the boat" to be at that point in time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77289551 United States 02/14/2019 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He (or she) now officially has injury, which gives standing, to a case to head all the way up to SCOTUS if needed. Quoting: tkwasny LOL !!!!!!! why doesn't anyone TOUCH the bs laws in NYC starting w/ limitations on purchases and a time frame/waiting period in between purchase OF ONE firearm ? never mind the rest of their bs. NRA doesn't dare go there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75516488 United States 02/14/2019 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So whats the story on this guy and his issue. Everybody I know has dozens of firearms and not one person has ever showed up to inquire about them. Same masturbatory fear since the mid 80s. All that's happened since then is they bought more? Ammo got more expensive is about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77289551 United States 02/14/2019 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if they really ever clamp down, they will trace the authors of this good ol' joke and do a search of property and premises. had an argument on another site where someone said to POST PICTURES OF THEIR favorite possessions/firearms - i simply asked WHY to publicly post this crap and a firestorm followd regarding rights and other bull SHIT. i simply replied why ADVERTISE YOUR ITEMS as problems might follow from tracing YOU,break ins following or simply harassment ? too simple a response to them. he should have said go to any website for firearms and make a WISH LIST not declaring what YOU own. |
Crunch62 User ID: 65419258 United States 02/14/2019 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, what is perfectly legal in most states can send you to prison in California. They want people to register their guns so they can confiscate them, then imprison them. Quoting: Off Switch The fuse is about to run out. They are going to start something they can’t undo. It’s coming. A part of the problem is that many of these peoole are trying to do the right thing according to the recent AW registration laws in CA. The laws are so confusing that you practically need to be a lawyer to figure them out. If somebody send in a registration request and something is out of compliance, CA DOJ should send information on how to correct the problem instead of just showing up to confiscate. If you have a faulty tail light or a cracked windshield on your car. you get a fix it ticket They don't confiscate your car. It is criminal how CA DOJ operates. Last Edited by Crunch62 on 02/14/2019 09:50 AM I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |