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Ask yourself why was it crucial to declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY first, before signing this DHS Bill?

Ask yourself why EVERYONE is freaking out about the DHS Bill creating the perfect distraction for something that wasn’t even signed until 15 minutes ago

DHS Bill provisions regarding immigration are suspended automatically by the NATIONAL EMERGENCY which nullified any loopholes by Chuck and Nancy

CHECKMATE
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


dude it will go to the senate and there are enough republicans to shoot it down

it is not checkmate at all, it is going to be trumps biggest gaffe to date
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Why would the National Emergency declaration need to go to the Senate? It's a presidential power that can't be stopped by any agency.
 Quoting: Catnip


Congress can undo it with a 2/3rds vote. Same as a bill being signed into law. Joint Resolution and sent to Potus for signature which he would veto. Then 2/3 majority rule would over ride. So they can also sue to tie it up in courts through various organizations.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


The courts technically cannot obstruct a national emergency declaration. The Executive branch is privy to intelligence and information the other branches do not have access to. This is why the President was granted the specific powers under this constitutional authority, unimpeded. If the courts could “tie it up,” then this country would be at significant risk of damage or destruction while said EMERGENCY was underway. So, even if some communist activist judge tried to block this declaration, POTUS would be in his right to simply ignore the injunction. Technically.

Due to the massive incursions across our southern border with many more on the way, the illegal (increasingly deadly) drugs flooding our nation, and the cartels’ complete control over our border cities, I personally believe that we are faced with a greater emergency today than at any time before in our history (some would argue other than the last two world wars, and even then, this is more dire than that due to the obvious corruption deeply embedded within our system). It is certainly more of an emergency than any of the circumstances surrounding any other national emergency declarations of the past.

That said, due to the aforementioned corruption, I also believe that our handlers will do their dead level best to talk themselves into powers they simply don’t have. So, this will be another shit show of epic proportions, and we can only hope that the Executive does their job and holds firm to their power - continuing to act per the mandate we’ve granted them.

If the Senate manages a 2/3 veto to this declaration, we will then know without a doubt that they are firmly against our national sovereignty and security. In effect, declaring themselves enemies of this Republic. At that point, I believe that a significant majority of those that care about our nation and our children’s future will necessarily begin to rise - en masse. They know this, which is why it won’t happen.

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For your consideration.

We have laws already that entering the United States illegally is well illegal.

So I wonder what it means when congressman and senators who voted to pass this bill, that talks about aiding illegals, without first making illegals legal would mean.

Does it mean that those who voted for this bill are now legally considered treasonous enemies?

The executive state of emergency being signed first is very relevant.
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spock

clappa
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This sounds like more Q, trust the plan stuff.
I will believe it if something actually comes of it, but otherwise President Trump got bitch slapped by pelosi/schumer, and we all took the brunt of it.
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Actually I am glad you brought that up

I have only referenced Q a handful of times at most and always with a qualifier

I have been reporting on all of this since before Q could even count to 4 in his mama’s basement

Most here already know me and know this so welcome to GLP

I wrote almost 2 years ago that the President could use the EXISTING DECLARATION OF WAR ON DRUGS by President Reagan not only as a legal mechanism for executive action but to also fund the wall and go after SANCTUARY CITY mayors and governors and low and behold the President pulled BILLIONS from the PENTAGON’S DRUG INTERDICTION BUDGET

Q can thank me later

Go back and do a little research and you will see that while Q had you chasing ghosts for over a year, I have been reporting for over 2 years that this should’ve been handled MILITARILY under the guise of a HUMANITARIAN CRISIS to declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY which would allow the President to deploy MILITARY MEDDAC HOSPITALS so he won’t have to worry about FUNDING for bed space if he treats these illegal aliens as patients which would prevent the media from reporting on any of this because of HEALTH PRIVACY LAWS which also cover criminals rendering the media’s propaganda dead

Try and prove me a liar
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


Hey guy, I was not calling you a liar.
I understand this thread heated up quick, and tensions are high, but I was not calling you a liar, I hope what you say is true!

I just will not get my hopes up yet.

You do have to admit that it does sound Q'ish, and convenient at the same time though, at least to those who have basically abandoned all hope.
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Ask yourself why was it crucial to declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY first, before signing this DHS Bill?

Ask yourself why EVERYONE is freaking out about the DHS Bill creating the perfect distraction for something that wasn’t even signed until 15 minutes ago

DHS Bill provisions regarding immigration are suspended automatically by the NATIONAL EMERGENCY which nullified any loopholes by Chuck and Nancy

CHECKMATE
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla
WRONG,a signed bill is a signed bill..game over..palosi takes trumps King..his presidency is burnt toast now..ENTER HILLARY 2020, WILL BE AN EASY WIN FOR HER TRUMP WAY TO WEAK AND VULNERABLE!!
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Lol.
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dude it will go to the senate and there are enough republicans to shoot it down

it is not checkmate at all, it is going to be trumps biggest gaffe to date
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71469907


Why would the National Emergency declaration need to go to the Senate? It's a presidential power that can't be stopped by any agency.
 Quoting: Catnip


Congress can undo it with a 2/3rds vote. Same as a bill being signed into law. Joint Resolution and sent to Potus for signature which he would veto. Then 2/3 majority rule would over ride. So they can also sue to tie it up in courts through various organizations.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


The courts technically cannot obstruct a national emergency declaration. The Executive branch is privy to intelligence and information the other branches do not have access to. This is why the President was granted the specific powers under this constitutional authority, unimpeded. If the courts could “tie it up,” then this country would be at significant risk of damage or destruction while said EMERGENCY was underway. So, even if some communist activist judge tried to block this declaration, POTUS would be in his right to simply ignore the injunction. Technically.

Due to the massive incursions across our southern border with many more on the way, the illegal (increasingly deadly) drugs flooding our nation, and the cartels’ complete control over our border cities, I personally believe that we are faced with a greater emergency today than at any time before in our history (some would argue other than the last two world wars, and even then, this is more dire than that due to the obvious corruption deeply embedded within our system). It is certainly more of an emergency than any of the circumstances surrounding any other national emergency declarations of the past.

That said, due to the aforementioned corruption, I also believe that our handlers will do their dead level best to talk themselves into powers they simply don’t have. So, this will be another shit show of epic proportions, and we can only hope that the Executive does their job and holds firm to their power - continuing to act per the mandate we’ve granted them.

If the Senate manages a 2/3 veto to this declaration, we will then know without a doubt that they are firmly against our national sovereignty and security. In effect, declaring themselves enemies of this Republic. At that point, I believe that a significant majority of those that care about our nation and our children’s future will rise. They know this, which is why it won’t happen.
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Thanks for these thoughts, much appreciated!
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Trump Is Using Obama’s National Emergency on Mexican Cartels to Build the Border Wall

Obama declared the Mexican drug cartels a national emergency in 2011.

“Drugs, gangs and people — an invasion,” Trump said on Friday. “We have an invasion coming into this country.”

Trump all but thanked his predecessor on Friday.

“We may be using one of the national emergencies that [Obama] signed having to do with criminal cartels… it’s a very good national emergency… we’re going to be using parts of it,” he said.

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Forgot to sign in! My post above with video on National Emergencies.

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Thank you, Vanilla for this thread and your points on this EO!
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but he is just the "down to earth common man BILLIONAIRE!"
dumb trumpers.
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Here are two very enlightening articles on National Emergencies - please dig in when you have time!

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency (Part II)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

P.S> We still need to burn up the phone lines to the Repub
Congress and hold them accountable!!
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It was a veto proof vote.

He had zero choice but to sign it. There may be a little pocket veto he could pull, but not for very long. And I honestly doubt that, but would have to refresh on rules on that.

I posted about this last night. If the Dims try to challenge this in court, they have to produce Ruthie. And all things suggest...she is "unavailable".

Personally, I am going to need some pretty solid proof that she is alive.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


But with the new powers he has under the emergency he can override such negatives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


The Declaration of national Emergency, as specified in the verbiage of the emergency, is in effect for as long as that emergency remains in effect.

Trump can't change the Appropriations bill, but the parts pertinent to Border Security are put on hold by the NE.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Thanks, are you absolutely sure about this???
 Quoting: roadrunnerray


Yes.

It IS a mess, but the NE is like a limited declaration of war in the specific area of the declaration.

There's a lot of information on this, but it isn't really light reading.

So, when the NE is rescinded, then the provisions of the bill would come back into play unless there was an additional amending done in a later appropriations bill.
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he be very wise... MAGA! :D
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You've been had.

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Karl Denninger, early leader of the Tea Party Movement

The "spending" bill, which Trump is going to sign at 1000 ET today and announce his "emergency" guarantees a flood of 50 million new invaders -- and permanently protects all 20+ million here now.

How?

Any "asylum seeker" or other person "desiring entry" who names as a potential or actual sponsor someone here, and unlike for existing other legal immigration said person does NOT have to be a citizen, results in said "named" sponsor or prospective sponsor being permanently barred from detainment or deportation.

Every single illegal invader currently here in the United States will, upon signing this bill, instantly get in touch with all of their relatives who are not in the United States and urge them to come here immediately. Not only will those people get in the named illegal already here will be permanently protected from being detained or deported by that act.

This is not only amnesty it's worse -- it will flood this nation with 50 million unskilled additional invaders who will all, along with those already here, be deemed legal with exactly zero protection against all of them becoming immediate and permanent public charges.

Another 1,000+ page bill that wasn't read before being voted on, passed and signed by the President.

President Trump just sold out the entire United States to the illegals and he's doing it on purpose.
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You know this really could be a 4d chess move here, if you think about this will eventually end up in the Supreme Court where if the champion of the Dems (Ginsburg) is missing well then where is she? And then another SCOTUS pick in return as well. And to your question other than the magical no photo closed session that supposedly happen (This is really becoming a joke I can't believe people are buying this and they are going with this narrative here) no no other sign of her.
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She dead
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Rey, stop saying that in any thread - she is not dead. She was back to work today.
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did you see any proof, fruitloop?

if Trump can turn into a Democrat overnight,
then Ginsberg can turn into a corpse or vampire at will!


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stupid post of the day...
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Go and read the National Emergency Declared by Trump, it covers correct things, and it is an emergency, drugs, trafficking in humans and gangs etc. Now nothing is that far out for you to understand, it just happens to involve our borders, just as the emergency order about human trafficking was.

If you do not know about the amount of deaths caused by these drugs, you have sand for brains, because your head had been under the sand to long.

I went to check the Declared Emergency, and it was good. Now I also checked where Obama did not declare it an Emergency during his time, amazing because of fast and furious that sold guns and it kill border agents with some of the guns.
The drugs during that time were pouring in across the border in the south and illegal pouring in with human trafficker and little children being sold, this is a humanitarian emergency and the left does not want to stop it, ask WHY they do not want to stop these illegal acts?

There is a lot who are organized coming from the South, they are not here yet, someone is paying these people and other who are so uneducated they believe anything told to them.
They paid the ones last year, and maybe someone in the government on the left knows about this.
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? You sound like a hardliner. Stick to the party or death? Alot like the liberals no?
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What I would say to my conservative friends in a bar, a biker rally, a family gathering, a casual meetup, is based on respect for other men despite minor difference in politics.

You should learn how real men interact, instead of posting disrespect with words you'd never say to a man face to face.

That's a bitch move. And you are a green, untested little bitch.

Say to me what you wrote, in real life, and one of us aint walking away. You Yankee cock sucker. Try that at a biker rally or a bar. Ass wipe.
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Classicinternet tough guy, we've all seen before. Always turns out to be 98 pounds of nothing.
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He is a little shitbag commie..

Likes to talk shit and try to divide.

His M.O. have seen it on other forums as well. he is easy to spot but I bet he does not think so..LOL
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Vetos have been over-ridden in our history. It's part of the process. What is not part of the process is signing bills with the intent of ignoring parts of it. That is just not "presidential". It's not.

If they had over-ridden it, without his signoff, then his statement would make more sense, and even be defendable. Putting his name to it could well have bound him to it.

Contracts, a basic component of our laws.
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Signing letters are nothing new. It’s standard practice.
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No United States Constitution provision, federal statute, or common-law principle explicitly permits or prohibits signing statements. However, there is also no part of the Constitution that grants legal value to signing statements. Article I, Section 7 (in the Presentment Clause) empowers the president to veto a law in its entirety, to sign it, or to do nothing. Article II, Section 3 requires that the executive "take care that the laws be faithfully executed". The Constitution does not authorize the President to cherry-pick which parts of validly enacted Congressional Laws he is going to obey and execute, and which he is not.
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Looks a bit of a weak play.
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I will add that the poster this is in reply to is wrong and is using fake personal attacks which is just fucking lame.
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? You sound like a hardliner. Stick to the party or death? Alot like the liberals no?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77176003


What I would say to my conservative friends in a bar, a biker rally, a family gathering, a casual meetup, is based on respect for other men despite minor difference in politics.

You should learn how real men interact, instead of posting disrespect with words you'd never say to a man face to face.

That's a bitch move. And you are a green, untested little bitch.

Say to me what you wrote, in real life, and one of us aint walking away. You Yankee cock sucker. Try that at a biker rally or a bar. Ass wipe.
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Classicinternet tough guy, we've all seen before. Always turns out to be 98 pounds of nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77004814


He is a little shitbag commie..

Likes to talk shit and try to divide.

His M.O. have seen it on other forums as well. he is easy to spot but I bet he does not think so..LOL
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Hey buddy, the US is an oligarchy. There are those that are controlled by the globalist shitbags, and those that aren't. Almost all democrats and 1/2 of the republicans are controlled by these globalists.

Hardly a 'minor difference'. McCain, Paul Ryan, most of the leadership, if not all, are controlled by these globalists. I will never support these people, and if you do, then you are no real conservative. You're a wishy-washy hippocrite who knows very little but what you see on tv or learned in high school.
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No one is cherry picking anything

Shills and flak everywhere so I must be directly over the target area

You shills have no idea how absurd you look posting WIKI LINKS

Do you remember how the Bill was leaked days before it was published?

The President had a look at the bill the day it was finished

He already knew what was in it which is why he declared a NATIONAL EMERGENCY before signing the bill almost 7 hours later

Those vital hours allowed the President to deploy the military as he see’s fit for up to 90 days without notifying Congress

Doesn’t matter what the courts say or do and it only further exposes Obama operatives in the Judiciary

The ESTABLISHMENT was holding the government hostage so like any good hostage negotiator, the Commander In Chief gave them everything they wanted in exchange for the funding he needed, stealing any leverage Chuck and Nancy had while neutralizing their ILLEGAL LEGISLATION with directives already disseminated down the chain of command BEFORE the Bill was signed

With the wall built, what’s the 9th circuit going to tell President Trump?

Tear it down?

If they do that, Texas will have already finished their STATE FUNDED BORDER WALL

Texas picked up the slack so President Trump could move more assets to New Mexico and Arizona with more razor wire on the way which has proven HIGHLY EFFECTIVE.

Head fake so good, virtually everyone fell for it

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Here are two very enlightening articles on National Emergencies - please dig in when you have time!

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency (Part II)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

P.S> We still need to burn up the phone lines to the Repub
Congress and hold them accountable!!
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Thank you for contributing this

Green for you

Going over the links now
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The Gambler by Kenny Rogers

Check out Vincent Kennedy's twitter page.
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This one is even more interesting - hidden codes
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On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere,
I met up with the gambler; we were both too tired to sleep.
So we took turns a starin' out the window at the darkness
'Til boredom overtook us, and he began to speak.

He said, "Son, I've made my life out of readin' people's faces,
And knowin' what their cards were by the way they held their eyes.
so if you don't mind my sayin', I can see you're out of aces.
For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice."

So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow.
Then he bummed a cigarette and asked me for a light.
And the night got deathly quiet, and his face lost all expression.
Said, "If you're gonna play the game, boy, ya gotta learn to play it right.

You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.

You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.

Ev'ry gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep.

'Cause ev'ry hand's a winner and ev'ry hand's a loser,
And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep."

When he'd finished speakin', he turned back towards the window,
Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep.
And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke even.
But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep.

You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table.
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
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Thanks

I won’t be able to get this song out of my head for weeks again

I am really not joking

Weeks

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But with the new powers he has under the emergency he can override such negatives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


The Declaration of national Emergency, as specified in the verbiage of the emergency, is in effect for as long as that emergency remains in effect.

Trump can't change the Appropriations bill, but the parts pertinent to Border Security are put on hold by the NE.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Thanks, are you absolutely sure about this???
 Quoting: roadrunnerray


Yes.

It IS a mess, but the NE is like a limited declaration of war in the specific area of the declaration.

There's a lot of information on this, but it isn't really light reading.

So, when the NE is rescinded, then the provisions of the bill would come back into play unless there was an additional amending done in a later appropriations bill.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself

IF EVER A COMMENT DESERVED 5 stars

I gave you green instead

You will be a vital asset in the reclamation of this Republic from the hands of our GLOBALIST PUPPETMASTERS

Remember nothing is as it seems

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Here are two very enlightening articles on National Emergencies - please dig in when you have time!

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency (Part II)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

P.S> We still need to burn up the phone lines to the Repub
Congress and hold them accountable!!
 Quoting: Blue Fairy


Thank you for contributing this

Green for you

Going over the links now
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


Thank YOU! Was just going to make a thread on this but will leave it to you since you have more cred here-if you think the info is correct! I sure hope so! WINNING!!! hf
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Re: UPDATE: Page 8: DHS Bill Just Signed At 1500 hours, National Emergency Was Already Declared
Go and read the National Emergency Declared by Trump, it covers correct things, and it is an emergency, drugs, trafficking in humans and gangs etc. Now nothing is that far out for you to understand, it just happens to involve our borders, just as the emergency order about human trafficking was.

If you do not know about the amount of deaths caused by these drugs, you have sand for brains, because your head had been under the sand to long.

I went to check the Declared Emergency, and it was good. Now I also checked where Obama did not declare it an Emergency during his time, amazing because of fast and furious that sold guns and it kill border agents with some of the guns.
The drugs during that time were pouring in across the border in the south and illegal pouring in with human trafficker and little children being sold, this is a humanitarian emergency and the left does not want to stop it, ask WHY they do not want to stop these illegal acts?

There is a lot who are organized coming from the South, they are not here yet, someone is paying these people and other who are so uneducated they believe anything told to them.
They paid the ones last year, and maybe someone in the government on the left knows about this.
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This comment could be its own thread

Great analysis

China was in the news lately as an attempt to ratchet up pressure on them for their role in Venezuela and other things that will soon come to light

Forces inside our own government in collaboration with foreign state actors are actively using our own laws, legislated under Bush and Obama, to paralyze our government while trying to provoke and agitate to force a mistake on the Trump Administration or at the very least orchestrate and manufacture a media propaganda false flag in hopes of destabilizing the government

These are acts of war and need to be treated as such which warranted the NATIONAL EMERGENCY while simultaneously exposing how the ESTABLISHMENT plays politics with people’s lives

The 2020 campaign re-election ads are virtually writing themselves already....
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Re: UPDATE: Page 8: DHS Bill Just Signed At 1500 hours, National Emergency Was Already Declared
Here are two very enlightening articles on National Emergencies - please dig in when you have time!

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency (Part II)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

P.S> We still need to burn up the phone lines to the Repub
Congress and hold them accountable!!
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Thank you for contributing this

Green for you

Going over the links now
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


Thank YOU! Was just going to make a thread on this but will leave it to you since you have more cred here-if you think the info is correct! I sure hope so! WINNING!!! hf
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No please by all means make a thread and I will even pin it for you

So much to digest there so another thread is warranted
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Re: UPDATE: Page 8: DHS Bill Just Signed At 1500 hours, National Emergency Was Already Declared
Here are two very enlightening articles on National Emergencies - please dig in when you have time!

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency (Part II)

[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

P.S> We still need to burn up the phone lines to the Repub
Congress and hold them accountable!!
 Quoting: Blue Fairy


Thank you for contributing this

Green for you

Going over the links now
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


Thank YOU! Was just going to make a thread on this but will leave it to you since you have more cred here-if you think the info is correct! I sure hope so! WINNING!!! hf
 Quoting: Blue Fairy


No please by all means make a thread and I will even pin it for you

So much to digest there so another thread is warranted
 Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla


Ok! Done! Thanks!
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dude it will go to the senate and there are enough republicans to shoot it down

it is not checkmate at all, it is going to be trumps biggest gaffe to date
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Why would the National Emergency declaration need to go to the Senate? It's a presidential power that can't be stopped by any agency.
 Quoting: Catnip


Congress can undo it with a 2/3rds vote. Same as a bill being signed into law. Joint Resolution and sent to Potus for signature which he would veto. Then 2/3 majority rule would over ride. So they can also sue to tie it up in courts through various organizations.
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The courts technically cannot obstruct a national emergency declaration. The Executive branch is privy to intelligence and information the other branches do not have access to. This is why the President was granted the specific powers under this constitutional authority, unimpeded. If the courts could “tie it up,” then this country would be at significant risk of damage or destruction while said EMERGENCY was underway. So, even if some communist activist judge tried to block this declaration, POTUS would be in his right to simply ignore the injunction. Technically.

Due to the massive incursions across our southern border with many more on the way, the illegal (increasingly deadly) drugs flooding our nation, and the cartels’ complete control over our border cities, I personally believe that we are faced with a greater emergency today than at any time before in our history (some would argue other than the last two world wars, and even then, this is more dire than that due to the obvious corruption deeply embedded within our system). It is certainly more of an emergency than any of the circumstances surrounding any other national emergency declarations of the past.

That said, due to the aforementioned corruption, I also believe that our handlers will do their dead level best to talk themselves into powers they simply don’t have. So, this will be another shit show of epic proportions, and we can only hope that the Executive does their job and holds firm to their power - continuing to act per the mandate we’ve granted them.

If the Senate manages a 2/3 veto to this declaration, we will then know without a doubt that they are firmly against our national sovereignty and security. In effect, declaring themselves enemies of this Republic. At that point, I believe that a significant majority of those that care about our nation and our children’s future will necessarily begin to rise - en masse. They know this, which is why it won’t happen.
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They just proved that by signing the current bill. How much more proof do you need?

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AND... still no actual confirmation of him actually signing the bill. Next week is going to be AWESOME.
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He posted a signing statement, listing all the stuff in it he was going to be subordinating to his constitutional duties. So presumably he did sign it.

I think all recent presidents have done signing statements, listing things they would not be doing from a bill. GWB certainly did.
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