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President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles Once He Declares Border Security A National Emergency

 
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President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency

Can Congress vote to overturn Trump’s declaration of an emergency?

No. If the federal courts actually follow the law, President Trump cannot be prevented from “reprogramming” funds appropriated for the U.S. Department of Defense and actually using the military (such as the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers) to build the border wall.

read in full here!
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

also read:

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

and a good little video here
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President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency

Can Congress vote to overturn Trump’s declaration of an emergency?

No. If the federal courts actually follow the law, President Trump cannot be prevented from “reprogramming” funds appropriated for the U.S. Department of Defense and actually using the military (such as the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers) to build the border wall.

read in full here!
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

also read:

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

and a good little video here

 Quoting: Blue Fairy


This is exactly what my thread was missing but it’s so big it needs its own thread

The President already knew what was in the Bill all along

I merely laid out the timeline of events and how and why that was vital in disseminating orders down the chain of command before any challenge to the National Emergency allowing the President to deploy the military as he see’s fit

This thread here goes into detail on how and why the President was correct in going this route knowing he has the full legal authority to do it

The military can now do what Congress failed to

Secure our border and this Nation

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Thanks for the pin! hf

Hoping more people will read up on this and also>>>

BURN UP THE PHONES TO SENATORS and CONGRESS THAT VOTED FOR THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE BILL! Their votes made the bill veto proof and they need to be held accountable and reminded they represent WE THE PEOPLE!

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DO IT!
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Excellent thread. Thank you.
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Trump is a swamp dweller who just sold America out
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Was the debt ceiling suspended again within this bill? The debt limit WAS set to be reached on March 1st, 2019. Did they decide to suspend the debt ceiling once again?

If we reach the debt ceiling, what power to reduce wasteful programs does the President have under the BBEDCA of 1985?

I'm not sure of the angle, but I have had an itch for a week that Pres DJT has an angle on this budget that will be full MAGA.
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I don't think he is afraid.
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50 U.S. Code § 1622 - National emergencies

(a) Termination methodsAny national emergency declared by the President in accordance with this subchapter shall terminate if—
(1) there is enacted into law a joint resolution terminating the emergency; or
(2) the President issues a proclamation terminating the emergency.
Any national emergency declared by the President shall be terminated on the date specified in any joint resolution referred to in clause (1) or on the date specified in a proclamation by the President terminating the emergency as provided in clause (2) of this subsection, whichever date is earlier, and any powers or authorities exercised by reason of said emergency shall cease to be exercised after such specified date, except that such termination shall not affect—
(A) any action taken or proceeding pending not finally concluded or determined on such date;
(B) any action or proceeding based on any act committed prior to such date; or
(C) any rights or duties that matured or penalties that were incurred prior to such date.
(b) Termination review of national emergencies by Congress
Not later than six months after a national emergency is declared, and not later than the end of each six-month period thereafter that such emergency continues, each House of Congress shall meet to consider a vote on a joint resolution to determine whether that emergency shall be terminated.

(c) Joint resolution; referral to Congressional committees; conference committee in event of disagreement; filing of report; termination procedure deemed part of rules of House and Senate
(1) A joint resolution to terminate a national emergency declared by the President shall be referred to the appropriate committee of the House of Representatives or the Senate, as the case may be. One such joint resolution shall be reported out by such committee together with its recommendations within fifteen calendar days after the day on which such resolution is referred to such committee, unless such House shall otherwise determine by the yeas and nays.
(2) Any joint resolution so reported shall become the pending business of the House in question (in the case of the Senate the time for debate shall be equally divided between the proponents and the opponents) and shall be voted on within three calendar days after the day on which such resolution is reported, unless such House shall otherwise determine by yeas and nays.
(3) Such a joint resolution passed by one House shall be referred to the appropriate committee of the other House and shall be reported out by such committee together with its recommendations within fifteen calendar days after the day on which such resolution is referred to such committee and shall thereupon become the pending business of such House and shall be voted upon within three calendar days after the day on which such resolution is reported, unless such House shall otherwise determine by yeas and nays.
(4) In the case of any disagreement between the two Houses of Congress with respect to a joint resolution passed by both Houses, conferees shall be promptly appointed and the committee of conference shall make and file a report with respect to such joint resolution within six calendar days after the day on which managers on the part of the Senate and the House have been appointed. Notwithstanding any rule in either House concerning the printing of conference reports or concerning any delay in the consideration of such reports, such report shall be acted on by both Houses not later than six calendar days after the conference report is filed in the House in which such report is filed first. In the event the conferees are unable to agree within forty-eight hours, they shall report back to their respective Houses in disagreement.
(5) Paragraphs (1)–(4) of this subsection, subsection (b) of this section, and section 1651(b) of this title are enacted by Congress—
(A) as an exercise of the rulemaking power of the Senate and the House of Representatives, respectively, and as such they are deemed a part of the rules of each House, respectively, but applicable only with respect to the procedure to be followed in the House in the case of resolutions described by this subsection; and they supersede other rules only to the extent that they are inconsistent therewith; and
(B) with full recognition of the constitutional right of either House to change the rules (so far as relating to the procedure of that House) at any time, in the same manner, and to the same extent as in the case of any other rule of that House.
(d) Automatic termination of national emergency; continuation notice from President to Congress; publication in Federal Register
Any national emergency declared by the President in accordance with this subchapter, and not otherwise previously terminated, shall terminate on the anniversary of the declaration of that emergency if, within the ninety-day period prior to each anniversary date, the President does not publish in the Federal Register and transmit to the Congress a notice stating that such emergency is to continue in effect after such anniversary.
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'He Outfoxed Them': Bongino Says Trump 'Owned' Dems in Border Wall Funding

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Wow, a Fox talking head propagandist said Trump owned them so it must be true.
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If the President declares National Emergency under Border Security -
the only Proper response is " Secure the Border ".

ANYTHING ELSE -

Worse than Obstruction.

NOTHING ELSE

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'He Outfoxed Them': Bongino Says Trump 'Owned' Dems in Border Wall Funding

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 Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter


Wow, a Fox talking head propagandist said Trump owned them so it must be true.
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The DEMS must be winning. How else would they be expanding their global initiatives so effectively over the last two years. Merkel is still in office and Macron hasn't been hung yet, so that makes it clear that they are owning Trump. Just keep watching tv and PDJT will keep destroying the global cabal. When you are fighting to save Venezuela so that you have somewhere to hide the 15 CIA agents you have left... you know you are winning.
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No one can stop him.
No Hawaii judge.
Not congress.
Not a lawsuit.

Nothing stops him now.
The Army Corps Of Engineers has been given the go.
Build it.


MAGA
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'He Outfoxed Them': Bongino Says Trump 'Owned' Dems in Border Wall Funding

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 Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter


if congress tries to stop trump, i hear that over 1 million bikers are ready to go to border and "enforce the law"
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
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'He Outfoxed Them': Bongino Says Trump 'Owned' Dems in Border Wall Funding

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 Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter


Wow, a Fox talking head propagandist said Trump owned them so it must be true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73722498


The DEMS must be winning. How else would they be expanding their global initiatives so effectively over the last two years. Merkel is still in office and Macron hasn't been hung yet, so that makes it clear that they are owning Trump. Just keep watching tv and PDJT will keep destroying the global cabal. When you are fighting to save Venezuela so that you have somewhere to hide the 15 CIA agents you have left... you know you are winning.
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Oh fuck. Cut and paste Share Blue talking points.

Whats the matter, retard? Can't write your own copy or think for yourself. Mr. Fuking 20K/yr Wal mart shopper.

Suck a big one.
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'He Outfoxed Them': Bongino Says Trump 'Owned' Dems in Border Wall Funding

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 Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter


if congress tries to stop trump, i hear that over 1 million bikers are ready to go to border and "enforce the law"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76811228


Congress can't stop Trump. No one can.
The Declaration has been made. That's it.
The Army Corps Of Engineers has been given the green light to go.

Under a Declaration Of Emergrncy Trump has broad powers that can't be challenged by anyone.
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
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I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
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I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
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This explains it pretty well

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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
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I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
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Trump can disregard at his discretion any part of this spending bill that infringes on his constitutional power to protect this country.

And more, Trump just wrote this is exactly what he will do.

So these concern trolls know shit about shit. Especially Jeep boy. That's a fucking closet democrat if I every saw one.

MAGA
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
 Quoting: oniongrass


This explains it pretty well

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Mkjeep


The article says what is in this shit spending bill, not whether Trump will adhere to the bill.

We already knew the bill was shit.
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Trump can disregard at his discretion any part of this spending bill that infringes on his constitutional power to protect this country.

And more, Trump just wrote this is exactly what he will do.

So these concern trolls know shit about shit. Especially Jeep boy. That's a fucking closet democrat if I every saw one.

MAGA
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Untrue, he just helped fund , to put it in simple terms, illegals to bus right in and get set up. He has no control over that funding of the bill. He signed it. He can definately get the wall bult through other ways, but that is all political theater and optics . Trump is the one you should look at being a democrat running on a republican platform. Oh wait, he did. Now his closetness is coming out.
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
 Quoting: oniongrass


This explains it pretty well

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Mkjeep


The article says what is in this shit spending bill, not whether Trump will adhere to the bill.

We already knew the bill was shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77378654


That's one thing we could agree on, shit spending bill.
He can't subvert what the funds are directed now for though. I'm pretty sure that's why there are more caravans at the border right now. They were directed there because they were told they would be taken care of. This bill does that. No tellin how long ago this was planned.
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Note US STEEL REOPENING A FURNACE IN ALABAMA, and a rolling mill in Texas.

I think the warning orders to the Corps of Engineers already went out, and US Steel Isis preparing for the surge.
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Yes, he did! Thanks for that link. Love Bongino!
And a little Karmic Justice is that Trump will be using part of Obamas 2011 National Emergency and the National Emergencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1601. lol!

I'm hoping there is a way to do an end run around the part of the spending bill that relates to no deportation to anyone with a kid or any sponors of kids...otherwise know as the ‘Child Trafficking Promotion Act’.

We'll be finding out more details I'm sure in the coming days.

Meanwhile..Hold the line! Call our Senators and Reps and remind them who they are supposed to represent!
Oh, and ignore the shills!
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Soooo, whatabout the $$$ alotted in this bill to bus those illegals right past that wall and also have current illegals have kids bused in, again, right past whatever wall.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Trump can disregard at his discretion any part of this spending bill that infringes on his constitutional power to protect this country.

And more, Trump just wrote this is exactly what he will do.

So these concern trolls know shit about shit. Especially Jeep boy. That's a fucking closet democrat if I every saw one.

MAGA
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Untrue, he just helped fund , to put it in simple terms, illegals to bus right in and get set up. He has no control over that funding of the bill. He signed it. He can definately get the wall bult through other ways, but that is all political theater and optics . Trump is the one you should look at being a democrat running on a republican platform. Oh wait, he did. Now his closetness is coming out.
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:rere23:
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Trump is a swamp dweller who just sold America out
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President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency

Can Congress vote to overturn Trump’s declaration of an emergency?

No. If the federal courts actually follow the law, President Trump cannot be prevented from “reprogramming” funds appropriated for the U.S. Department of Defense and actually using the military (such as the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers) to build the border wall.

read in full here!
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

also read:

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

and a good little video here

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You're forgetting one major problem... In order for there to be an emergency there actually has to be an emergency lol Not some made up campaign promise!
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President Trump Shouldn’t Fear Legal Battles If He Declares Border Security A National Emergency

Can Congress vote to overturn Trump’s declaration of an emergency?

No. If the federal courts actually follow the law, President Trump cannot be prevented from “reprogramming” funds appropriated for the U.S. Department of Defense and actually using the military (such as the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers) to build the border wall.

read in full here!
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

also read:

Why President Trump Can And Should Declare A National Emergency At Our Southern Border (Part I)
[link to bigleaguepolitics.com (secure)]

and a good little video here

 Quoting: Blue Fairy


You're forgetting one major problem... In order for there to be an emergency there actually has to be an emergency lol Not some made up campaign promise!
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Exactly he just signed into law to let the illegals in. What at this point now constitutes a national Emergency with illegals at the border who want to come in??? He just signed a law giving them access and opening the border!

This is Trump’s way of playing head games, not with illegals , but us.

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I didn't see where has to use any of the money to bring in additional kids.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Trump can disregard at his discretion any part of this spending bill that infringes on his constitutional power to protect this country.

And more, Trump just wrote this is exactly what he will do.

So these concern trolls know shit about shit. Especially Jeep boy. That's a fucking closet democrat if I every saw one.

MAGA
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Untrue, he just helped fund , to put it in simple terms, illegals to bus right in and get set up. He has no control over that funding of the bill. He signed it. He can definately get the wall bult through other ways, but that is all political theater and optics . Trump is the one you should look at being a democrat running on a republican platform. Oh wait, he did. Now his closetness is coming out.
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:rere23:
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Read the law he signed dipshit.
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