Challenging the Christians on this board

What if you accept Christ as your Savior and continue to sin?

LOL Okaay, that's an easy one

(Christ Jesus was crucified
for who He was, who who is today. What He is doing now, LOL. Preparing for a battle. The battle is with the Evil one, and all who followed him, and all who worship him.

The question to ask yourself, might be, who do you worship?


When he returns, the first thing he going to do is wage war against those who try to kill him at his return. (at Migeddo) You can read this in Revelation. Then the antichrist will thrown into the lake of fire.




~ Migeddo ~ have to say, I like that. May I use it also?

What if you accept Christ as your Savior and continue to sin?

LOL Okaay, that's an easy one

(Christ Jesus was crucified
for who He was, who who is today. What He is doing now, LOL. Preparing for a battle. The battle is with the Evil one, and all who followed him, and all who worship him.

The question to ask yourself, might be, who do you worship?

What if you accept Christ as your Savior and continue to sin?

<LOL Okaay, that's an easy one>(Christ Jesus was crucified
for who He was, who who is today. What He is doing now, LOL. Preparing for a battle. The battle is with the Evil one, and all who followed him, and all who worship him.
The question to ask yourself, might be, who do you worship?




Friend of God asked:
Just to look at the scriptures regarding the battle of Christ..

24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27 For “He has put all things under His feet.”
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"Paul speaks of the battle in past tense in verse 27...He doesn't say 'will' put all things under His feet, but 'has'(past tense) put all things under His feet."



To Friend of God,
Hi. I have to ask you to please give what book, what chapter, for those of us that don't know right off, where to look. I personally use two different bibles any time I do any study, like now. I prefer to read these verses first. Would you mind, please? Thanks.

There is another "tree in the garden" promised to those who follow the path.

The Tree of Life

And when we are ready, each of us can partake.

There is another "tree in the garden" promised to those who follow the path.

The Tree of Life

And when we are ready, each of us can partake.





Last page of Revelation
Chapter 22:19

And if any man shall take away, subtract, any words of

these prophecies in this book.

God shall take away his part, his share,

in the Tree of Life,

out of the Holy City, as described from the things in this book.






Xare,
Hi there. The Tree of Life is also something I would like to hear more of. Thanks for posting that.

What if you accept Christ as your Savior and continue to sin?

<LOL Okaay, that's an easy one>(Christ Jesus was crucified
for who He was, who who is today. What He is doing now, LOL. Preparing for a battle. The battle is with the Evil one, and all who followed him, and all who worship him.
The question to ask yourself, might be, who do you worship?




Friend of God asked:
Just to look at the scriptures regarding the battle of Christ..

24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27 For “He has put all things under His feet.”
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"Paul speaks of the battle in past tense in verse 27...He doesn't say 'will' put all things under His feet, but 'has'(past tense) put all things under His feet."
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<To Friend of God,
Hi. I have to ask you to please give what book, what chapter, for those of us that don't know right off, where to look. I personally use two different bibles any time I do any study, like now. I prefer to read these verses first. Would you mind, please? Thanks. >


The passage reagrding the last enemy already destroyed was quoted from 1 Corinthians 15 and is confirmed again by Paul in 2 Timothy 1 verse 10

10 but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.
11And of this gospel I was appointed a herald and an apostle and a teacher.

Greetings dear fellow soldier of Jesus, our King, and our supreme commander.

The King of Kings, is our chief, top leader, as it is written, All power was given unto him, by Our FATHER. who is in Him, and also us, if we obey His commands. To the point, of full faith, as did Gideon, and all the other servants, as well as all the prophets, including Jonah, and more importantly, the Apostles.

So, this truth, we seek, is not given, to everyone, and it would seem, that even those who seek it, get it in steps, as each of us are able to receive it.

The people who deny the power of GOD, as it is also written, are who I speak of, when I say, that NOT everyone, can gain the truth.

As you know, there is the milk of the Word, and the Meat of the Word.

But there are also lessons and knowledge in between the milk, and the meat.

But wait, there is more much more !

After you receive the Meat of the Word, and embrace it, you will find the there is roughage and even strong meat.

This can not be obtained all at once !

There are 1st stage Christians, and even 4th stage Christians.

A 1st stage, or level, Christian, will puke on the strong meat of the Word, so we must learn in steps, as each of us are prepared.

I could and would love to explain, some of the strong meat, that I know about, as I myself walk up that path, that is laden with stumbling blocks, but you will have to take you're own walk, with The Holy Spirit. The thing to remember, is when you stumble, you just get right back up, and continue on towards the straight gate. It may take some people longer, to get there, but keep thy faith Strong, and be loyal to our KING JESUS, and nothing can stop you !

Love H2O

Greetings dear fellow soldier of Jesus, our King, and our supreme commander.

The King of Kings, is our chief, top leader, as it is written, All power was given unto him, by Our FATHER. who is in Him, and also us, if we obey His commands. To the point, of full faith, as did Gideon, and all the other servants, as well as all the prophets, including Jonah, and more importantly, the Apostles.

So, this truth, we seek, is not given, to everyone, and it would seem, that even those who seek it, get it in steps, as each of us are able to receive it.

The people who deny the power of GOD, as it is also written, are who I speak of, when I say, that NOT everyone, can gain the truth.

As you know, there is the milk of the Word, and the Meat of the Word.

But there are also lessons and knowledge in between the milk, and the meat.

But wait, there is more much more !

After you receive the Meat of the Word, and embrace it, you will find the there is roughage and even strong meat.

This can not be obtained all at once !

There are 1st stage Christians, and even 4th stage Christians.

A 1st stage, or level, Christian, will puke on the strong meat of the Word, so we must learn in steps, as each of us are prepared.

I could and would love to explain, some of the strong meat, that I know about, as I myself walk up that path, that is laden with stumbling blocks, but you will have to take you're own walk, with The Holy Spirit. The thing to remember, is when you stumble, you just get right back up, and continue on towards the straight gate. It may take some people longer, to get there, but keep thy faith Strong, and be loyal to our KING JESUS, and nothing can stop you !

Love H2O

***********************************************************​I interpret that a little differently. I could again quote using both versions, but it would take me awhile, and time I don't have right now, to type or copy from an on-line source.. I'm getting ready to get into the kitchen to start preparing to cook five pounds-worth of hamburgers
at 4:00am, LOL. Hubby * I keep some odd hours..

If you have time, how about checking out just that particular verse with some other bibles on line, unless you have these, at home:
KJV, and The Living Bible.
I appreciate that I can verify The LB with the KJV. Both of mine, I understand this to mean, for all time, until Christ returns. Which is very soon.

The Fountain

Check out this trailer:

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And,

These are the specific references to the Tree of Life in the Bible:

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous [is] a tree of life; and he that winneth souls [is] wise.

Proverbs 13:12 Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but [when] the desire cometh, [it is] a tree of life.

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

<i know we interpret them differently, we have to because in your timeframe you are awaiting the return of Christ, or te second coming as many refer to the event by.

But I see Christ as having already returned, and having appeared a second time, so because I am in what is called the thousand year reign time frame and you are in the last days time frame we will understand scripture quite differently when referring to prophetic events written in the word.>


Friend, LOL. I NEVER said I don't believe Jesus IS here, today.
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HEBREWS 9:28
“…and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

This appearance of Christ was “unto salvation.” Christ was to bring the possibility of salvation with him when he came. Without the presence of Christ, there is no salvation. If Christ has not yet appeared to us today, then we are still waiting to receive the salvation he brings!

This passage is the only place in the Bible where the word “second” is used in reference to an appearing of Christ, but let us note what that phrasing logically implies. He could only appear a second time to those who had witnessed a first time. It was a second “coming” to those apostles and disciples who had been in his presence and were looking for him to return to them.

This passage does not say “unto the whole world shall he appear.” It says “unto those who look for him.” In John 14:19, Christ told his disciples:

“Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me. Because I live, ye shall live also.”

After Jesus was killed and buried, the world never saw him again, but his disciples and apostles did. He appeared to them numerous times before the ascension and then came back to them spiritually on the day of Pentecost to dwell in them. This coming of Christ to the waiting Christians is, of course, an ongoing or continuing coming. That is, he will spiritually appear to a new Christian today and any day from now on, forever. This is why it is not out of place for the Hebrews author to write this at some time after the day of Pentecost.

When we try to place this appearance of Christ in a yet future “end of the world” setting, we misunderstand the use of that phrase by the writers of the scriptures. We naturally tend to envision a modern, scientific idea of an end to the physical universe rather than the restricted symbolic meaning that was intended. In verse 26 preceding our study passage, the author of Hebrews states:

“For then must he [Christ] often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”
(Hebrews 9:26)

The “sacrifice of himself” was, of course, the crucifixion, and within that generation (“now…, in the end of the world”) the world would end! What world was it? It was the old Jewish world or world of people under the old Law of Moses which Christ came to fulfill. As we noted earlier, the NIV and other translations correctly render the phrase “end of the world” as “end of the ages.” It was the end of the ages of the Law and the prophets and the beginning of a new age and the Law of Christ — the law of righteousness, love, and forgiveness.

2 TIMOTHY 1:10

“[This grace] has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.”
[NIV]

This appearing of Christ does not refer to his life as a physical man. It obviously cannot refer to a far future coming either, for it is through this appearing that grace – the new covenant in action for mankind – was revealed and brought into power. Christ, in this appearance, is a Christ who has already accomplished the destruction of death, and has instituted immortal life for the believers. Neither of those elements were completed until after the resurrection and the ascension of Christ to the Father.

Grace was revealed through the appearing of Christ, and grace was revealed “now” – present time for Paul – thus the appearing had already occurred.

When the Church was established on the day of Pentecost, Christ appeared spiritually to the faithful who had been baptized into his name. This spiritual Christ had already destroyed the “last enemy (meaning the most important enemy – 1 Corinthians 15:25-27) and that enemy was spiritual death or separation from God the Father. This spiritual Christ had instituted his last will and testament – the inheritance of eternal life made available to believers through the gift of grace. This Christ was a present and life–giving entity to those men and women living in the Kingdom after it began on Pentecost, just as he still is today!

man you guys are waaaaayyyyyy brainwashed...

OP, great question:)

To me the "truth" is Jesus Himself, for He personifies everything that is good and right and true. He is the very essence of all that God encompasses and represents. To me, "truth" here defines all that is rightous, holy and good. It is what we can knowingly put our faith in, infact, what we can base our very existance on.

The lie, is the exact opposite and seeks to discredit the complete and total rightousness of truth. It is the antithesis or "anti-christ" if you will, of the very essence of God and all He stands for and desires for us to emulate.

jmho.

FoG:
What if you accept Christ as your Savior and continue to sin?

Mama:
(Christ Jesus was crucified for who He was, who who is today. What He is doing now, LOL. Preparing for a battle. The battle is with the Evil one, and all who followed him, and all who worship him. The question to ask yourself, might be, who do you worship?

Xare:
When he returns, the first thing he going to do is wage war against those who try to kill him at his return. (at Migeddo) You can read this in Revelation. Then the antichrist will thrown into the lake of fire.


Mama:
~ Migeddo ~ have to say, I like that. May I use it also?

Xare:
(Har means hill / mountain)
Megiddo, Mt. Megiddo, Har Megiddo, Har-Megeddon, Harmagedon, ARMAGEDON !!

Megiddo is the first BATTLEFIELD.
Will it be the last as well ?

I have spent almost three years frequenting this forum, I have had many debates, mostly with fellow christians in regard to faith and beliefs and what is the true doctrine of Christ. I have been proven wrong many times in my personal theology but came to understand and was able to repent and acknowledge i was wrong, because of my foundation of truth in Christ. In everything I debate with others I always place everything on my foundation of truth.

truth has become almost a buzzword it seems, and I wonder how other christians consider what they debate as true or not. scripture can be interpreted so many different ways it seems, and I notice that we always interpret scripture according to how we understand our knowledge of truth.

Jesus said that he was the way the truth and the life...He also said that we would know the truth and the truth would set us free.

In contrast to truth, there is also the lie. Satan/devil is called dthe father of the lie and all lies.

John says to those who are believers in 1 John 2

""20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.""

My question, or challenge to those who are christians and who proclaim to know Christ is this....

What exactly is the 'truth' that Jesus claimed to be, and that we would also know that would set us free?

and on the flip side


What is the 'lie' that satan/devil fathered from the beginning?

bear in mind that the 'truth' and the 'lie' will be in contrast to each other, and at opposite ends of the spectrum.

What exactly is the 'truth' that Jesus claimed to beand that we would also know that would set us free?

During Christ's trial, the chief priests asked Him point blank, "Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God." And He said,

"I am." (Mark 14:60-62)
"Yes, it is as you say." (Matt. 26: 63-65)
"You are right in saying I am." (Luke 22:67-70)

and that we would also know that would set us free?

"If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." John 8:36

the torah is not truth
it tells us of truth
the messiah, Jesus Christ
it's like a signpost
pointing to Christ


hUh?? 'splain that, please?

And the Truth is Love
/quote]

So if the truth is love...and I am agreeing fully with you on this because God is Truth and God is love...then by contrast would you agree the lie must be the opposite which is hate?