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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 6933732 United States 02/22/2019 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs Landlords will shortchange repairs thus causing much of the rental housing stock to slowly start to disintegrate. Construction of new rental properties will slow down dramatically ... worsening the housing shortage. With construction of new units suffering a dramatic decline any property that can be converted to a single family residence will become a prime candidate for that conversion, which lead to even MORE of a shortage of rental properties. A worsening housing shortage, with more lower income people slowly losing their ability to rent anything since nothing will be available to rent, couldn't happen to a more deserving state than Oregon. Midwest Skeptic |
Super Crayton User ID: 77386651 United States 02/22/2019 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs How about stop letting the world print up fake money and letting them buy up America. Only a fool wouldn’t think this doesn’t drive up American property values. Look at China. You know they’re printing up fake money to buy American property. If China wanted to they could have all of their state run businesses buy up all American companies with their fake printed up money. Americans can barely live in their own damn country due to anyone in the world with enough money can buy U.S. property, but there are dozens of other countries that won’t allow a foreigner including Americans buy one square inch of their land. Super Crayton |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76941105 United States 02/22/2019 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77173035 United States 02/22/2019 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. Cool story bro |
Copperhead User ID: 77359243 United States 02/22/2019 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. That's a lot of effort for your $3.50 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335283 United States 02/22/2019 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs It's not the first state! New York State has rent control that certain municipalities can invoke with nothing more than a vote of the local council, without even any warning! They just call it "rent stabilization", aka ETPA. It's the cause of the destruction of housing. If one bad tenant gets in and causes trouble, you can't evict him, and all the good tenants leave. You can get new tenants easily, but they can only pay a prescribed rent. What should be passive income turns into a full time job of dealing with courts and bureaucracies. This is on top of idiotic leftover war shit like the NYC rent control. Oregon is a pretty state, with easy girls, but this is the end of housing there. If you don't live in the woods under a rock, you're in trouble. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 77307468 Canada 02/22/2019 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs All necessities, housing, both rent and rent to own, everyone should own, on a sliding scale of income, going from zero to 1/4 income with utilities including and all utilities, food and housing need to capped and kept permanently very low. THEY ARE NECESSITIES, NOT INVESTMENTS. PERIOD. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Mayor of Simpleton User ID: 77024451 United States 02/22/2019 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs So what they are saying is that now, landlords will raise the rent every year by 7% + inflation. All rental property will have yearly increases by this much. I rented out property for 15 years and never raised the rent. I missed out on so much. MoS Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335283 United States 02/22/2019 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs So what they are saying is that now, landlords will raise the rent every year by 7% + inflation. All rental property will have yearly increases by this much. I rented out property for 15 years and never raised the rent. I missed out on so much. Quoting: Mayor of Simpleton MoS You need to keep rents high so that when these rules happen, you have a high basis to start. Regulating everything is an incentive not to work or play - especially if you already have money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335283 United States 02/22/2019 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs All necessities, housing, both rent and rent to own, everyone should own, on a sliding scale of income, going from zero to 1/4 income with utilities including and all utilities, food and housing need to capped and kept permanently very low. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn THEY ARE NECESSITIES, NOT INVESTMENTS. PERIOD. No. They are private property. They have been coopted by the renters when the right to set rents is taken from the owners. A girlfriend is a necessity for many, yet you can't get one guaranteed to you. Same with housing, food, medical services, cars, and other shit. If you don't win at life, you die. QED. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73241304 United States 02/22/2019 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs I'm trying to remember what nixon promised to try to save himself from impeachment, but his opponents wanted his head on a platter and got it. In order to protect the country from the inflation of mandatory wage increases, he also proposed price controls: wage and price controls, I believe. (He also was forced to "open" china, which eventually destroyed the source of good unionized industrial jobs. Now we have overpriced gov. jobs and an overpriced health industrial complex and a justice industrial complex and a security industrial complex and baristas. Are we better off?) This country has a homeless problem. Either it is acceptable or gov. does something. Gov. housing is notoriously expensive (your fed. taxes at work) and substandard (pols. love those contractor kickbacks for keeping the buildings in a constant state of disrepair--so does the mafia). Where I live, greater nyc area, landlords caused alot of their own problems by refusing to register their buildings, taking cash for rent, etc. Yes, savvy renters got a good deal. But that's not most people. The latest idea is to base rents upon income; if the rent is three thousand, the tenant pays, say one thousand if that's what can be afforded, and the feds pick up the rest. One of the landlords biggest complaints was about subsidizing well-off tenants. I don't know if this will stop the problem but it's better than section eight. The problem is corruption. Always. |
roo User ID: 73310927 United States 02/22/2019 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs Wow- as a property provider I now know my screening standards will escalutate to the moon. who will want to rent a quarter of a million dollar investment to anyone with a blemished credit score and a blemished rental History.- I wonder if the Girls up North in the Capitol building ever thought of that? Millions of not so perfect prospective tenants now will never get fair treatment. way to go- Kotec |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77335283 United States 02/22/2019 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs Wow- as a property provider I now know my screening standards will escalutate to the moon. who will want to rent a quarter of a million dollar investment to anyone with a blemished credit score and a blemished rental History.- I wonder if the Girls up North in the Capitol building ever thought of that? Millions of not so perfect prospective tenants now will never get fair treatment. way to go- Kotec Quoting: roo As a former landlord, I agree. I now own several empty houses that I'm improving, but I'd rather sell them as is than rent in today's climate. When tenants are responsible for the damage they cause, pay rent on time, have assets that can be attached if necessary, and will not run to the government for help at every turn, I'll consider renting again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73241304 United States 02/22/2019 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs These are not the faults of the tenants. It's a small business and not every one is suited to it, just like not every one is suited to be a homeowner. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77256532 United States 02/22/2019 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. Iv'e never seen someone talk out of both sides of their mouth and their ass before. |
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Proud Trump Supporter User ID: 77388313 United States 02/22/2019 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs Makes me sick. We have a rental in Oregon where the past renters cost us thousands in damages and over 4 months to complete all of the repairs from the damage they created. They even left their dogs in the house to pee and poop where all of the carpets had to be ripped up and replaced. They punched holes in the doors (also needing to be replace) and other untold damage. It also cost us $$$ to go to court to evict them. The whole Oregon rental system is geared toward the renter and not much help for the owner. Subsequently, for their own legal protection most owners want to rent month-to-month. With this new law the owner can't even get a bad renter out in less then 90 days. After the repairs are completed, our rental goes up for sale next month. Fed up with Oregon's socialist mental disorder. Last Edited by Proud American Supporter on 02/22/2019 04:42 PM The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 235) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77398147 United States 02/22/2019 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. That's a lot of effort for your $3.50 Jesus fucking Christ not every opinion different from yours a government shill. That was a reasonable post. Ffs The paid shill are the dudes posting 3.50 to everything |
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DARTH SILIOUS Abrasive Fuck User ID: 75814920 United States 02/22/2019 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs then there will be no renters or landlord, just people with homes and the homeless Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41173011 Exactly correct. Homelessness will absolutely skyrocket as will the number of people fleeing the state. It's almost as if they are trying to kill their own state as quickly as possible. God damn liberals are fucking stupid. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
eatinmraw User ID: 468223 United States 02/22/2019 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs [link to thehill.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77342714 Oregon could be the first state to impose mandatory rent control laws as it faces rising housing costs. The bill is headed to the state House floor after it was approved by the House Committee On Human Services and Housing on Wednesday, according to The Oregonian. The bill would prohibit annual rent increases of more than 7 percent plus inflation. It would also prohibit landlords from evicting tenants without cause after 12 months of residency. Democrats, including the state's governor Kate Brown, support of the bill. "I look forward to signing the bill,” she told reporters, according to the Associated Press. The bill would become law if Brown signed it. But Republicans wanted to enter a clause to delay it from going into effect until 2020. Skyrocketing housing prices have been plaguing the West Coast, including Oregon, and contributing to high rates of homelessness. I'm beginning to become more moderate. I think we all should be. I'm beginning to see both sides as radical bullshit. I tend to side with the right and I tend to be on the right. But I no longer believe that every time there is some proposed government regulation that we jump back and say to ourselves "fucking communism"! I've seen recent years how the left is often not willing to have any debate whatsoever. And during these years the right has always seemed to try to argue their positions. But now I am starting to realize that the right is also starting to get to the point where they are no longer willing to have a debate or constructive discussion about anything. Fact is that things have been steadily been going down hill for the lower class AND the middle class. I think it would be worthwhile to look at the evidence and cases where this stuff has been tried. I think the position on the right is the better position- no rent control. But to just jump out and say oh well look at what they did in NYC it went to shit because of their policies because er it's just commie bullshit I don't agree with! And those types of policies are always going to fail just .. just because that's my ideology.. that's what I believe. Radials start to act as though it is almost their religious values that cannot even be questioned. Instead we should study what exactly the policy was in NYC or wherever rent control has been implemented. Are there any differences between what has been proposed in those places and what they are trying to do in Oregon? Okay, those places failed and they are likely to fail in the future. So, I am not suggesting that we should try it again or something similar. But let's have an intellectual debate and site evidence on how exactly this failed and why it is a bad idea to try it or anything similar in the future. I'm a free market person but you have to be realistic. You can't just assume that any regulation that comes along to regulate any industry will be detrimental to society. I'm not saying that this specific regulation is a good idea. I think rent control is a very stupid idea. But there are definitely industries and corporations that need to be regulated. There are other industries that have frivolous and detrimental regulations. But I am starting to realize that the biggest problem in this country has it there is no longer any intellectual debate or compromise on issues. This is what happens when the country only has two major parties and the become more and more radicalized. It is tearing this country apart and is a precursor to civil war. Is that what we really want? At some point we need to at least encourage people or make an attempt to bridge the divide between us and work together to figure out some compromise. I see radicalism as absolute stupidity and ignorance to be able to dismiss absolutely any proposal without any consideration because your ideology is so strong. Iv'e never seen someone talk out of both sides of their mouth and their ass before. HA! Must be your first visit to this site. |
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AnonymousCowardForever User ID: 75554194 United States 02/22/2019 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs Libs never learn. Rent controls will force decisions by landlords to sell the same properties, formerly rentals, at inflated prices until the market of available rentals dries up like water poured on desert sands. Portland wants to be like Manhattan? That's what they're going to get if the gubers intervene with simpleton anti-market legislation. AnonymousCowardForever |
Mental Case User ID: 77121378 United Arab Emirates 02/22/2019 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Oregon set to become first state with mandatory rent controls to address skyrocketing housing costs LOL That will make the rent even higher lol --------- It's worse than that. There will be nothing to rent. Either buy a house or be homeless. There will be no renting. It might take 2 or 4 years...but that's what will happen. If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am! |