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The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.

 
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The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Not before or during the tribulation.

If the righteous are raptured before the tribulation, it wouldn't be called the tribulation. Instead it would be called the judgment of the wicked.

If they are raptured during the tribulation then it defeats the purpose of the anti-christ oppressing the righteous. Not to mention they will be denied the opportunity to see the glorious second coming....the moment they all lived for.

We are required to seek God's help to endure the tribulation.

I believe that it's only after the kingdom of God is established that the rapture occurs. During that time, the righteous will RULE and the wicked will submit and get in line. At this point everything on earth would have been fulfilled.

So the righteous will be raptured. And when that occurs, evil will rise again and will take over the world. And only then will the earth be destroyed.

Once that's done, it's time for the resurrection and the judgement.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Jesus comes to earth at the end of the Tribulation.

So why would believers in Christ be Raptured away then

and where to?
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It is our responsibility to keep our house in order, when not done and judgment results, it has been God's way to destroy the good along with the bad.

The rapture would be counter to that.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
tribulation | 7th trumpet | bowls of wrath

which one of those is the 'last trump'?

Jesus comes to earth at the end of the Tribulation.

So why would believers in Christ be Raptured away then

and where to?
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the saints are taken to the sea of glass for during the 7 bowls of wrath. that's rev 15:1-4

you're going to get skewered op, but you're correct.

the early church always taught pre-wrath.

why wouldn't the apostles have corrected them?

The first time the pre-tribulation was taught was the writings of a catholic Jesuit priest Emmanuel Lacunza published in 1811, 10 years after his death, then translated into English by Scottish minister Edward Irving then in 1827 John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth brethren then the Scofield reference bible. Everyone before this taught post-tribulation. (pre-bowls-of-wrath)
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike.
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Notice they were not raptured though.

They had to trust the Lord and obey instructions to the letter to survive.

Sames going to be the case during the tribulation.
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Ford already built the Raptor

It's overpriced just like the F22
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
The first time the pre-tribulation was taught was the writings of a catholic Jesuit priest Emmanuel Lacunza published in 1811, 10 years after his death, then translated into English by Scottish minister Edward Irving then in 1827 John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth brethren then the Scofield reference bible. Everyone before this taught post-tribulation. (pre-bowls-of-wrath)
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False.

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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
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Good correction. Anon did not do his research.

All I can say is there were a lot false doctrines taught.

The secret-double-second coming is apparently one of them.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Jesus comes to earth at the end of the Tribulation.

So why would believers in Christ be Raptured away then

and where to?
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Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV)
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Parable of the wise 'n foolish virgins....

You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry).

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Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV)
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
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noah escaped the flood. and he was absolutely there for it.


You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry).

abduct
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you realize Rosh Hashanah, Yom Teruah is never known in advance.

Jewish law determines it precisely by the first sighting of the new moon,
by witnesses.

Literally, no one knows what day or hour it will be.

we do know, however, there is only one last trumpet.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
The rapture is not specifically defined in the Bible. it was removed when they removed Enoch. Its in Enoch. The wicked are raptured. Make sure you study Enoch 1. The others were imposters.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike.
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Not true.

Just read Daniel 3 where 3 servant of God were cast into a fiery furnace and lived while those who threw them in died from the heat.

or Daniel 6, Where Daniel is cast into the lions den and God shuts the lions mouth, but when the people who accused him were cast in they were devoured.

Or consider;

Psalm 91:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

Clearly God has the power to protect His people while at the same time, others suffer His indignation at the same time, place and interval.

The Rapture theory denies God this power.

God removes the chaff from the wheat, NOT the wheat from the threshing floor.

How about;

Proverbs 10:30 King James Version (KJV)
30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

Clearly, the rapture is NOT of God in all His Wisdom, but of man in his unrighteous and unholy rebellion.

Choose who you will follow.

The lies of a false doctrine or will you give Glory and Honor to God?
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Not before or during the tribulation.

If the righteous are raptured before the tribulation, it wouldn't be called the tribulation. Instead it would be called the judgment of the wicked.

If they are raptured during the tribulation then it defeats the purpose of the anti-christ oppressing the righteous. Not to mention they will be denied the opportunity to see the glorious second coming....the moment they all lived for.

We are required to seek God's help to endure the tribulation.

I believe that it's only after the kingdom of God is established that the rapture occurs. During that time, the righteous will RULE and the wicked will submit and get in line. At this point everything on earth would have been fulfilled.

So the righteous will be raptured. And when that occurs, evil will rise again and will take over the world. And only then will the earth be destroyed.

Once that's done, it's time for the resurrection and the judgement.
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Yes, but when is the pancake breakfast?
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Wrong and you know it.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Luke 21:36 New King James Version (NKJV)
36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may [a]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038

noah escaped the flood. and he was absolutely there for it.


You don't know when the Son of Man cometh.... We don't know when the thief comes.... (doesn't work for mid or post... sorry).

abduct
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223038


you realize Rosh Hashanah, Yom Teruah is never known in advance.

Jewish law determines it precisely by the first sighting of the new moon,
by witnesses.

Literally, no one knows what day or hour it will be.

we do know, however, there is only one last trumpet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73649866

alien16
Chasing the dream....realizing the Revelation. Intrepid searcher.

"AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE....WE WILL SERVE THE LORD!" [link to www.sabbathtruth.com]

ECCLESIASTES 12:13 LET US HEAR THE CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE MATTER: FEAR GOD, AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE DUTY OF MAN.(KJV)

AGENDA 2030 IS FORCED COMPLIANCE TO THE SOCIALIST, ONE WORLD ORDER!! Thread: Agenda 2030 is about implementing the MARK OF THE BEAST. A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT UNDER THE U.N. **UPDATE PAGE 5 & 6**

I never block anyone. My editing frenzies are mostly restructured sentences that after reading them.....needed some more definition. I will try to use * to indicate edited segments in the future.
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Revelation 14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Not before or during the tribulation.

If the righteous are raptured before the tribulation, it wouldn't be called the tribulation. Instead it would be called the judgment of the wicked.

If they are raptured during the tribulation then it defeats the purpose of the anti-christ oppressing the righteous. Not to mention they will be denied the opportunity to see the glorious second coming....the moment they all lived for.

We are required to seek God's help to endure the tribulation.

I believe that it's only after the kingdom of God is established that the rapture occurs. During that time, the righteous will RULE and the wicked will submit and get in line. At this point everything on earth would have been fulfilled.

So the righteous will be raptured. And when that occurs, evil will rise again and will take over the world. And only then will the earth be destroyed.

Once that's done, it's time for the resurrection and the judgement.
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If you're reading this comment you've been raptured. It means go get tortured in the spirit to feed the monsters. That's why the saints are yelling from the grave. In no saint though too smart for that. I'm a hammer for a world of crooked nails Satan...scrapped out.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Wrong and you know it.
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His Bible knowledge is very limited.
Post tribbers are basically Bible illiterates or secret papists.
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Noah was rescued before the flood, Lot and family were rescued before the meteor strike...God always rescues his chosen before catastrophes strike.
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A better example is Enoch, he got translated (raptured).

Also you have the Church disappear at Revelation chapter 4.

Some more:
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and some more:
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Wrong and you know it.
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His Bible knowledge is very limited.
Post tribbers are basically Bible illiterates or secret papists.
 Quoting: AltSwede


bsflag

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. (revelation 20:4)

If they were all raptured before the tribulation then how did they resist taking the mark and worshiping the beast?
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
Wrong and you know it.
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His Bible knowledge is very limited.
Post tribbers are basically Bible illiterates or secret papists.
 Quoting: AltSwede


bsflag

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. (revelation 20:4)

If they were all raptured before the tribulation then how did they resist taking the mark and worshiping the beast?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408625


If they were all raptured before the tribulation then why were they beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus?
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Re: The rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation...not before or during.
You.'re not going to get raptured. The word is ruptured. And every one of you praying for ti DESERVES IT





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